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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/16/2013 05:37 PM, Dennis Boone wrote: Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. "Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days. Agreed. Wireless == suck. (and I design wireless comm gear for a living!) Run the wires. You'll be glad you did. One possibility might be running the cable through your heating ducts, if your house has them. Lots of people have done that with great success. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 18:13, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: 100m That would work for running outside a house between floors I think. ;) Ian On 2013-01-16, at 2:58 PM, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :) As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal. De --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=4FCFB98A603011E28…

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by ian＠platinum.net

100m Ian On 2013-01-16, at 2:58 PM, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :) As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal. De --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=4FCFB98A603011E28…

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:58, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :) As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal. What's the maximum length for cat5e/6? De

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by drb＠msu.edu

I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :) As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal. De

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:42, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: I have a similar situation with my garage - my DEC collection lives in the garage, but the Internet connection is in the main house. At the moment, the problem is solved with an Apple Airport in the main house and an Aiport Express in bridge mode in the garage. Unfortunately, this isn't as reliable as I had hoped - I get quite a few dropped packets. I was considering the powerline option. 50Mbps isn't a problem considering the majority of the DEC stuff is 10Mbps half duplex :) I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;) Ian On 2013-01-16, at 2:38 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:37, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. "Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days. It'd get messy with drilling holes and running it through walls and whatnot, but I know it'd be the best. De --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=8D8D5FDC602D11E29…

12 years, 3 months

Benchmarks - WHETSTONE.C

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM, <Paul_Koning at dell.com> wrote: On Jan 15, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM, <Paul_Koning at dell.com> wrote: ... Focal, Coral, Jovial (gag), Mumps. Then from the outside world: Algol-60, Algol-68,... Hello! What's wrong with Jovial? We've built a great air traffic control system around it. Too bad the hardware is old enough to vote. The designer clearly demonstrated that he has few brain cells and none of them contain any knowledge about structured programming languages or for that matter any of the design principles that make Algol-60 what it is. I don't remember enough of the details, but that much was immediately obvious by inspection, and my conclusion was that I know all I need to know and I will never look for more. paul Hello! Paul sadly at the time that's what was needed to build an incredibly lousy ATC system. Now we need a better one, and I'm not going into those details because it's Off Topic. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:42, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: It'd get messy with drilling holes and running it through walls and whatnot, but I know it'd be the best. Cheating is fair. :) In or next to ventilation ducts, next to radiator pipes, under baseboards, through the floor in the back corner of closet, etc. can work, with proper attention to the details. I do that for room-to-room but it'd get messy with me lacking the skills to make the cables myself (due to eyesight) and having to go from upstairs all the way to the basement. One floor would be easy. I suppose I could always run the cable around the outside of the house ;) De

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by ian＠platinum.net

I have a similar situation with my garage - my DEC collection lives in the garage, but the Internet connection is in the main house. At the moment, the problem is solved with an Apple Airport in the main house and an Aiport Express in bridge mode in the garage. Unfortunately, this isn't as reliable as I had hoped - I get quite a few dropped packets. I was considering the powerline option. 50Mbps isn't a problem considering the majority of the DEC stuff is 10Mbps half duplex :) Ian On 2013-01-16, at 2:38 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:37, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. "Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days. It'd get messy with drilling holes and running it through walls and whatnot, but I know it'd be the best. De --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=8D8D5FDC602D11E29…

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:37, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote: Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable. "Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days. It'd get messy with drilling holes and running it through walls and whatnot, but I know it'd be the best. De

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