On 01/17/2013 01:04 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you
with that, I'm sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will
not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two
years. I installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing
tar.
That sounds like Linux. ;)
Linux doesn't do that anywhere else. (well, it used to on Alphas,
where it spent most of the CPU cycles in the alignment trap
handler..)
Hmmm. Something better than Linux should run on an Alpha or an
Itanium anyway. Why waste all that potential loading copies of the
GPL in to RAM? ;)
Well. I have no issue with Linux (I used to, but not anymore), but I
just have nothing else to run on this machine. Which is pretty much why
it has sat powered off for two years.
And this is a quad Itanium2 with like 6GB of RAM at some
ungodly high clock speed! I patted my UltraSPARCs (which run at
HALF that clock rate) affectionately on that day.
There's a reason I'm interested in SPARC gear. ;)
There's a reason I RUN SPARC gear. ;)
Speaking of SPARC, I wonder if fork() is still slow of
FreeBSD/SPARC.
Everything is still slow in FreeBSD/SPARC. I cannot fathom why anyone
would want to run such a PC-centric OS on SPARC. NetBSD is far better
suited there. If you've got a PC, definitely go FreeBSD.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 17 Jan 2013, at 12:59, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 12:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
That sounds like Linux. ;)
Linux doesn't do that anywhere else. (well, it used to on Alphas,
where it spent most of the CPU cycles in the alignment trap handler..)
Hmmm. Something better than Linux should run on an Alpha or an Itanium anyway. Why waste all that potential loading copies of the GPL in to RAM? ;)
And this is
a quad Itanium2 with like 6GB of RAM at some ungodly high clock speed!
I patted my UltraSPARCs (which run at HALF that clock rate)
affectionately on that day.
There's a reason I'm interested in SPARC gear. ;)
There's a reason I RUN SPARC gear. ;)
Speaking of SPARC, I wonder if fork() is still slow of FreeBSD/SPARC.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 01/17/2013 12:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
That sounds like Linux. ;)
Linux doesn't do that anywhere else. (well, it used to on Alphas,
where it spent most of the CPU cycles in the alignment trap handler..)
And this is
a quad Itanium2 with like 6GB of RAM at some ungodly high clock speed!
I patted my UltraSPARCs (which run at HALF that clock rate)
affectionately on that day.
There's a reason I'm interested in SPARC gear. ;)
There's a reason I RUN SPARC gear. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 17 Jan 2013, at 12:36, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 12:34 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar.
That sounds like Linux. ;)
And this is
a quad Itanium2 with like 6GB of RAM at some ungodly high clock speed!
I patted my UltraSPARCs (which run at HALF that clock rate)
affectionately on that day.
There's a reason I'm interested in SPARC gear. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 17 Jan 2013, at 12:34, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 12:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I do need to devise a better way to keep the hard drives plugged in
though...currently have them propped up with screwdrivers...need
something to support the full-height drives that predate the ES40.
;)
Predate it by like a *decade*.
I know right? I'm amazed they still work!
Ahh, young'ns. ;) You're accustomed to brand-new drives dying in a
year or two. That's a relatively recent thing, designed to drive sales
figures. Nowadays society is well-trained, due to its short memory, to
happily accept that a one-year-old hard drive is "old", a five-year-old
car is "old", etc etc. It's bullshit.
I am bothered by having been conditioned by this. ;)
I have several 5+ year old drives that still work though...however newer ones have died in a year. It makes me hesitant to buy drives. ;)
We need to find you some recent drives somewhere.
Yeah but will you be able to find 2 18G ones? ;)
Maybe. You can ask around a bit too, you know. ;) Try the sunhelp
list as I suggested awhile back.
I'll probably try that when I get back home.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:28, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
I could use these for Integrity, just... well because ;)
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
If someone can get me a compiler kit for Integrity and 'how the ****'
instructions I can do it on my zx6000 but I've never compiled
anything under VMS. First time for everything I guess :)
If you can get the compilers installed and give me an account, I'd be
happy to build it there.
What compilers do you need? I could possibly set them up on RHESUS..
On 01/17/2013 12:34 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
Not a damn thing. ;) It hasn't been powered on in about two years. I
installed Linux on it, but it was slower than pissing tar. And this is
a quad Itanium2 with like 6GB of RAM at some ungodly high clock speed!
I patted my UltraSPARCs (which run at HALF that clock rate)
affectionately on that day.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 01/17/2013 12:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I do need to devise a better way to keep the hard drives plugged in
though...currently have them propped up with screwdrivers...need
something to support the full-height drives that predate the ES40.
;)
Predate it by like a *decade*.
I know right? I'm amazed they still work!
Ahh, young'ns. ;) You're accustomed to brand-new drives dying in a
year or two. That's a relatively recent thing, designed to drive sales
figures. Nowadays society is well-trained, due to its short memory, to
happily accept that a one-year-old hard drive is "old", a five-year-old
car is "old", etc etc. It's bullshit.
We need to find you some recent drives somewhere.
Yeah but will you be able to find 2 18G ones? ;)
Maybe. You can ask around a bit too, you know. ;) Try the sunhelp
list as I suggested awhile back.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 17 Jan 2013, at 12:28, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/17/2013 03:01 AM, Mark Benson wrote:
Yes, that's SIMH running *on* VMS.
Binaries are here, currently only for VAX, still working on alpha,
feel free to download:
ebola::disk$user:[decnet.simh.vax]
Note that there's no network support. Network support works on
Alpha, but not VAX. Not sure why.
I just shut down an instance of RSTS/E v10.1 under SIMH on my VAX
7700. I'm currently booting VMS 7.3. =)
I could use these for Integrity, just... well because ;)
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
What does your Itanium2 run, then?
If someone can get me a compiler kit for Integrity and 'how the ****'
instructions I can do it on my zx6000 but I've never compiled
anything under VMS. First time for everything I guess :)
If you can get the compilers installed and give me an account, I'd be
happy to build it there.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 01/17/2013 03:01 AM, Mark Benson wrote:
Yes, that's SIMH running *on* VMS.
Binaries are here, currently only for VAX, still working on alpha,
feel free to download:
ebola::disk$user:[decnet.simh.vax]
Note that there's no network support. Network support works on
Alpha, but not VAX. Not sure why.
I just shut down an instance of RSTS/E v10.1 under SIMH on my VAX
7700. I'm currently booting VMS 7.3. =)
I could use these for Integrity, just... well because ;)
Well I'm not running that anywhere, so I can't help you with that, I'm
sorry. My one Itanium2-based system will not (or so I'm told) run VMS.
If someone can get me a compiler kit for Integrity and 'how the ****'
instructions I can do it on my zx6000 but I've never compiled
anything under VMS. First time for everything I guess :)
If you can get the compilers installed and give me an account, I'd be
happy to build it there.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
