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Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/18/2013 12:11 AM, Ian McLaughlin wrote: At first, I plugged them in to available power bars, but I was getting a red light on the device indicating a low signal level. I unplugged from the power bars and plugged directly into an outlet, and it works perfectly. I suspect the surge suppression features of the power bars was interfering. I'm saturating my 10Mbps circuit and I'm not getting any of the strange dropout errors I was getting with the wireless link. It was the low-pass filters, not the surge suppression components, FYI. Those must be fairly decent power strips. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 18 Jan 2013, at 00:11, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: All this discussion got me off my a$$, and I looked around locally for a powerline ethernet device today. I found a D-Link DHP-309AV "PowerLine AV+ Mini Adapter Starter Kit" for $59 CDN. The specifications say "up to 200Mbps speed", however plugging into a gigabit switch it only negotiates 100Mbps, so I suspect "200Mbps" is marketing-speak for 100Mbps full duplex. More than likely. Could also be future-proofing or saying you could have 2 saturated 100mbit connections at the same time. Never mind, because the garage-end of my network is only 10Mbps (most of it is 10Base2 coax). What's the latency like? At first, I plugged them in to available power bars, but I was getting a red light on the device indicating a low signal level. I unplugged from the power bars and plugged directly into an outlet, and it works perfectly. I suspect the surge suppression features of the power bars was interfering. I'm saturating my 10Mbps circuit and I'm not getting any of the strange dropout errors I was getting with the wireless link. Seems the tech has improved since I last used it something like 7 years ago. ;) $59 is a small price to pay compared to drilling holes through exterior house walls and crimping RJ45 connectors. Unless you happen to be a contractor who doubles as a network engineer. ;) Ian On 2013-01-17, at 1:14 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 15:45, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: On 1/17/2013 3:24 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 15:05,hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: Two Linksys WAP54G units, that's what I'd do. The WAP54G is fairly old so may be cheap on EBay. But you're not a Linksys fan, are you? No, but from what I've recently learned, MoCa is going to be a great solution and I think it's what i'm going to go with. I ran a wifi bridge many years ago when I lived in Philly. Never worked well and then the school across the street put in a bajillion million watt APs that used EVERY FUCKING AVAILABLE CHANNEL and my bridge just stopped working completely at that point. That's when I was introduced to MoCA. 100mbit and solid. Also, latency is much lower than wireless. Also, very cheap (looking now, NIM100s are $15/each on ebay but I paid $5/each for mine) and at least here in the US coax is almost guaranteed to be in place in pretty much every house so you rarely even have to do any major wire pulls. I should probably have asked my friend who works for a local cableco instead as I lost the bid on the one. ;) At least I got a lot of 2 I'm not patient when it comes to networking. -brian --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E199F50A60EA11E29…

12 years, 3 months

Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by ian＠platinum.net

All this discussion got me off my a$$, and I looked around locally for a powerline ethernet device today. I found a D-Link DHP-309AV "PowerLine AV+ Mini Adapter Starter Kit" for $59 CDN. The specifications say "up to 200Mbps speed", however plugging into a gigabit switch it only negotiates 100Mbps, so I suspect "200Mbps" is marketing-speak for 100Mbps full duplex. Never mind, because the garage-end of my network is only 10Mbps (most of it is 10Base2 coax). At first, I plugged them in to available power bars, but I was getting a red light on the device indicating a low signal level. I unplugged from the power bars and plugged directly into an outlet, and it works perfectly. I suspect the surge suppression features of the power bars was interfering. I'm saturating my 10Mbps circuit and I'm not getting any of the strange dropout errors I was getting with the wireless link. $59 is a small price to pay compared to drilling holes through exterior house walls and crimping RJ45 connectors. Ian On 2013-01-17, at 1:14 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 15:45, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: On 1/17/2013 3:24 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 15:05,hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: Two Linksys WAP54G units, that's what I'd do. The WAP54G is fairly old so may be cheap on EBay. But you're not a Linksys fan, are you? No, but from what I've recently learned, MoCa is going to be a great solution and I think it's what i'm going to go with. I ran a wifi bridge many years ago when I lived in Philly. Never worked well and then the school across the street put in a bajillion million watt APs that used EVERY FUCKING AVAILABLE CHANNEL and my bridge just stopped working completely at that point. That's when I was introduced to MoCA. 100mbit and solid. Also, latency is much lower than wireless. Also, very cheap (looking now, NIM100s are $15/each on ebay but I paid $5/each for mine) and at least here in the US coax is almost guaranteed to be in place in pretty much every house so you rarely even have to do any major wire pulls. I should probably have asked my friend who works for a local cableco instead as I lost the bid on the one. ;) At least I got a lot of 2 I'm not patient when it comes to networking. -brian --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E199F50A60EA11E29…

12 years, 3 months

Sample DCL code for simple client-server task-to-task comms

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-01-18 01:47, Gregg Levine wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2013-01-17 16:49, sampsa at mac.com wrote: The problem with PHONE is that you can't see a centralised directory of the whole network and who's on. I tried to write a script on a Linux-DECNET box to get such a directory but it broke something on BQT's systems. Broke and broke... You managed to spam my logging. For some reason you managed to trigger logs for trying to access machines that were not up, if I remember correctly... Johnny IM's are slightly different, as I'm sure you're aware. The benefits to phone are: - You are notified when your buddies log on, anywhere on HECnet - You can control who can message you (i.e. buddies only) sampsa On 17 Jan 2013, at 17:46, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 10:38, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: El 17/01/2013, a les 16:09, sampsa at mac.com va escriure: Any interest in this type of service, i.e. something like Jabber/Gtalk but over DECNET? Aren't you reinventing PHONE? ;) Only insofar as to use it on an actual phone I hope. ;) Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol Hello! It did? Just how far along was this? Dave that was the fault of the monstrosity keeping your PDP-11 family company. Including the furry something else that keeps sending.... Well you get the idea. Half a year or maybe a year ago. Sampsa was running a program which used PHONE to check who was logged in on various machines. When he tried all machines in area 1, MIM got loads of entries in the log for Sampsa's machine trying to talk with machines that were down. (I might be remembering things wrong, and I might be mixing things up, but it was not as if MIM crashed or anything because of Sampsa's code, but I asked him to stop, as he was filling up plenty of logs as far as I can remember.) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

12 years, 3 months

data collector documentation update

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

Slight update to the data format documentation detailing the fields within the inner dictionaries of known_circ and adj_nodes. I really do need to get this stuff online somewhere. -brian

12 years, 3 months

Sample DCL code for simple client-server task-to-task comms

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2013-01-17 16:49, sampsa at mac.com wrote: The problem with PHONE is that you can't see a centralised directory of the whole network and who's on. I tried to write a script on a Linux-DECNET box to get such a directory but it broke something on BQT's systems. Broke and broke... You managed to spam my logging. For some reason you managed to trigger logs for trying to access machines that were not up, if I remember correctly... Johnny IM's are slightly different, as I'm sure you're aware. The benefits to phone are: - You are notified when your buddies log on, anywhere on HECnet - You can control who can message you (i.e. buddies only) sampsa On 17 Jan 2013, at 17:46, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 10:38, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: El 17/01/2013, a les 16:09, sampsa at mac.com va escriure: Any interest in this type of service, i.e. something like Jabber/Gtalk but over DECNET? Aren't you reinventing PHONE? ;) Only insofar as to use it on an actual phone I hope. ;) Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol Hello! It did? Just how far along was this? Dave that was the fault of the monstrosity keeping your PDP-11 family company. Including the furry something else that keeps sending.... Well you get the idea. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 3 months

Sample DCL code for simple client-server task-to-task comms

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-01-17 17:09, sampsa at mac.com wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 17:46, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 10:38, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: El 17/01/2013, a les 16:09, sampsa at mac.com va escriure: Any interest in this type of service, i.e. something like Jabber/Gtalk but over DECNET? Aren't you reinventing PHONE? ;) Only insofar as to use it on an actual phone I hope. ;) Think of this as a notification system and text message extension to VMS PHONE :) PHONE HELP MAIL ? Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

12 years, 3 months

Sample DCL code for simple client-server task-to-task comms

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-01-17 16:49, sampsa at mac.com wrote: The problem with PHONE is that you can't see a centralised directory of the whole network and who's on. I tried to write a script on a Linux-DECNET box to get such a directory but it broke something on BQT's systems. Broke and broke... You managed to spam my logging. For some reason you managed to trigger logs for trying to access machines that were not up, if I remember correctly... Johnny IM's are slightly different, as I'm sure you're aware. The benefits to phone are: - You are notified when your buddies log on, anywhere on HECnet - You can control who can message you (i.e. buddies only) sampsa On 17 Jan 2013, at 17:46, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 17 Jan 2013, at 10:38, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: El 17/01/2013, a les 16:09, sampsa at mac.com va escriure: Any interest in this type of service, i.e. something like Jabber/Gtalk but over DECNET? Aren't you reinventing PHONE? ;) Only insofar as to use it on an actual phone I hope. ;) Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

12 years, 3 months

Solaris, was Re: [HECnet] SIMH for VMS on VAX

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/17/2013 05:01 PM, Mark Benson wrote: I'd agree with OS X being unusable now. I spend a lot of time tweaking it and making it bend over backwards to do what I want. Often involving using Terminal.app exclusively with a bunch of X apps. ;) That's how I've always used graphical workstations...as a way to get a buttload of terminal windows. (that's what they were pretty much FOR in earlier times!) I know it's probably of little consequence, but I use an app called iTerm2 in OS X for terminals. It does a good deal better job of handling multiple terminals, reusable bookmarks etc. than Apple's POS Terminal.app ever did. Yes, it's very good. I used it a lot of the time. OS X does what I need it to (mostly desktopy Internety stuff) so I keep it. I used to double it up as a UNIX platform for compiling and running OSS stuff too but I dropped it and used Debian and derivatives on other x86 hardware instead - it just does more with less for less. That's why I moved. The desktoppy stuff works very well in the Linux world now as well. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 3 months

Solaris, was Re: [HECnet] SIMH for VMS on VAX

by md.benson＠gmail.com

On 17 Jan 2013, at 21:23, Dave McGuire wrote: I'd agree with OS X being unusable now. I spend a lot of time tweaking it and making it bend over backwards to do what I want. Often involving using Terminal.app exclusively with a bunch of X apps. ;) That's how I've always used graphical workstations...as a way to get a buttload of terminal windows. (that's what they were pretty much FOR in earlier times!) I know it's probably of little consequence, but I use an app called iTerm2 in OS X for terminals. It does a good deal better job of handling multiple terminals, reusable bookmarks etc. than Apple's POS Terminal.app ever did. OS X does what I need it to (mostly desktopy Internety stuff) so I keep it. I used to double it up as a UNIX platform for compiling and running OSS stuff too but I dropped it and used Debian and derivatives on other x86 hardware instead - it just does more with less for less. -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

12 years, 3 months

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