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Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: PuTTY has been ported to Linux too? WTF? WHY?! For one, VTxxx compatibility. Unless one really understands the Xresources and how to move the appropriate fonts from VMS to Linux, build the fontdir, reset the font cache and update the font path, PuTTY is a right-out-of-the- box VTxxx emulation. In this regard, the Mac OS X Terminal.app works surprisingly well right-out- of-the-box. Xterm on Linux will require extensive changes to get it to pass that VTTEST suite. Try your xterm and see how well it does with that test suite. Terminal.app can be used to used to see what should be there if you don't have a real VT terminal. Dave, I know you do. ;) I'm more content with an xterm > and typing 'ssh ...'. To me, the command line is so much easier than a > GUI for something this simple. It's also easier when setting up various > port ssh-tunnels, IMNSHO. Yes. I only mentioned PuTTY because I know the WEENDOZE camp is command line > challeneged. That's one way to put it. ;) LOL -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/21/2013 03:02 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: You have a working binary for PuTTY on OS X? I'm forced to use Windows for work and I use PuTTY every day there. I'd love to have a copy for my home Macs. Where is it available? I heard recently that PuTTY had been ported to OS X. There seems to be no point at all to this. Open a Terminal, type "ssh <hostname>"...what's so tough about that? It works fine. Terminal.app doesn't provide a shiny GUI to connect to physical serial ports. ;) Well I guess if people "need" that sort of thing...but then, I respectfully submit that those are the types of people who aren't afraid of the keyboard. (yes, I know GNU screen can do it too. I agree it seems fairly pointless.) Yes. And if memory serves, screen ships with OS X by default. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 21 Jan 2013, at 15:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/21/2013 09:30 AM, John H. Reinhardt wrote: You have a working binary for PuTTY on OS X? I'm forced to use Windows for work and I use PuTTY every day there. I'd love to have a copy for my home Macs. Where is it available? I heard recently that PuTTY had been ported to OS X. There seems to be no point at all to this. Open a Terminal, type "ssh <hostname>"...what's so tough about that? It works fine. Terminal.app doesn't provide a shiny GUI to connect to physical serial ports. ;) (yes, I know GNU screen can do it too. I agree it seems fairly pointless.) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/21/2013 09:41 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Google MacPorts and PuTTY. You'll have to build it. I did it back when I was still running 10.4.something on the Mac as an academic exercise. I don't really use it on Linux either. PuTTY has been ported to Linux too? WTF? WHY?! I'm more content with an xterm and typing 'ssh ...'. To me, the command line is so much easier than a GUI for something this simple. It's also easier when setting up various port ssh-tunnels, IMNSHO. Yes. I only mentioned PuTTY because I know the WEENDOZE camp is command line challeneged. That's one way to put it. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 9 months

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/21/2013 09:30 AM, John H. Reinhardt wrote: You have a working binary for PuTTY on OS X? I'm forced to use Windows for work and I use PuTTY every day there. I'd love to have a copy for my home Macs. Where is it available? I heard recently that PuTTY had been ported to OS X. There seems to be no point at all to this. Open a Terminal, type "ssh <hostname>"...what's so tough about that? It works fine. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 9 months

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 21 Jan 2013, at 12:44, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes: I was absolutely surprised at how well Mac OS X's Terminal.app handled = that test. Yup. And the DECSWL and DECDWL (Test 4) work!!! That test is tremendously fun. It also reminded me I disabled blinking text. ;) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

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Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 21 Jan 2013, at 09:16, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> writes: Dave McGuire wrote: > I've heard it a lot. It's just the Windows people. "Terminal > programs are EXPENSIVE!" No. Idiots. Go get a grownup OS and leave > Windows for the videogames. Off the top of my head, I can name at least two dozen easy-to-install free terminal emulators for Windows. There are probably a great many more than that. Is PuTTY not available for WEENDOZE??? On Mac OS X and Linux, it does a failrly reasonable job of digesting the VT200 series escape sequences and even does DECSWL and DECDHL correctly. If you want to test your emulator, telnet to great-escape.tmesis.com and log in with VTTEST -- no password. It's a captive account that runs the VTTEST suite. I was absolutely surprised at how well Mac OS X's Terminal.app handled that test. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

12 years, 9 months

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at tmesis.com> wrote: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> writes: You have a working binary for PuTTY on OS X? I'm forced to use Windows for work and I use PuTTY every day there. I'd love to have a copy for my home Macs. Where is it available? Google MacPorts and PuTTY. You'll have to build it. I did it back when I was still running 10.4.something on the Mac as an academic exercise. I don't really use it on Linux either. I'm more content with an xterm and typing 'ssh ...'. To me, the command line is so much easier than a GUI for something this simple. It's also easier when setting up various port ssh-tunnels, IMNSHO. I only mentioned PuTTY because I know the WEENDOZE camp is command line challeneged. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity. Hello! I'm not command line challenged. But I also use PuTTY on both Windows (here) and Linux. I've also built it for my Slackware Linux system. This discussion is becoming decidedly strange. The big problem here is simply making things easier to work with. However what further progress has been accomplished in sorting out how to deliver serial over Ethernet directly? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 9 months

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by system＠TMESIS.COM

"John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> writes: You have a working binary for PuTTY on OS X? I'm forced to use Windows for work and I use PuTTY every day there. I'd love to have a copy for my home Macs. Where is it available? Google MacPorts and PuTTY. You'll have to build it. I did it back when I was still running 10.4.something on the Mac as an academic exercise. I don't really use it on Linux either. I'm more content with an xterm and typing 'ssh ...'. To me, the command line is so much easier than a GUI for something this simple. It's also easier when setting up various port ssh-tunnels, IMNSHO. I only mentioned PuTTY because I know the WEENDOZE camp is command line challeneged. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

12 years, 9 months

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by johnhreinhardt＠yahoo.com

On 1/21/2013 9:16 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Sridhar Ayengar<ploopster at gmail.com> writes: Dave McGuire wrote:> I've heard it a lot. It's just the Windows people. "Terminal> programs are EXPENSIVE!" No. Idiots. Go get a grownup OS and leave> Windows for the videogames. Off the top of my head, I can name at least two dozen easy-to-install free terminal emulators for Windows. There are probably a great many more than that. Is PuTTY not available for WEENDOZE??? On Mac OS X and Linux, it does a failrly reasonable job of digesting the VT200 series escape sequences and even does DECSWL and DECDHL correctly. If you want to test your emulator, telnet to great-escape.tmesis.com and log in with VTTEST -- no password. It's a captive account that runs the VTTEST suite. Brian, You have a working binary for PuTTY on OS X? I'm forced to use Windows for work and I use PuTTY every day there. I'd love to have a copy for my home Macs. Where is it available? John

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