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Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 21 Jan 2013, at 16:11, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/21/2013 04:07 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: The Ubuntu "bosses" have totally lost THEIR minds. Everything else works fine. Yup. Shuttleworth is getting money-happy and some of the nuttier devs have been invading Debian for awhile now. :( Yup. Ubuntu is no longer a viable distribution in its own right, but it serves as a good base from which others (like Mint) can build a usable distribution. Yeah, it does function as a good base. ;) I mean, seen that ubuntu store crap and the amazon search in the search box thing? Nope! I never got that far. Ten minutes trying to get real work done under Unity was enough to make me stop dead in the middle of my day and move to Mint. Unity still makes absolutely no sense. ;) Why did they think switching to it was a good idea... -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

HECnet Area Request

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-01-21 13:13, John H. Reinhardt wrote: I'll lay claim to area 17 then. Initial nodes: Blish - Compaq XP1000 - OpenVMS 8.3 - DECnet Address - 17.101 Gordon - Compaq XP1000 - OpenVMS 8.3 - DECnet Address - 17.102 Verne - SIM-11h VAX - OpenVMS 7.3 - DECnet address - 17.221 Isis - Cisco virtual router - DECnet address - 17.1023 Hi. Noted. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/21/2013 04:07 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: The Ubuntu "bosses" have totally lost THEIR minds. Everything else works fine. Yup. Shuttleworth is getting money-happy and some of the nuttier devs have been invading Debian for awhile now. :( Yup. Ubuntu is no longer a viable distribution in its own right, but it serves as a good base from which others (like Mint) can build a usable distribution. I mean, seen that ubuntu store crap and the amazon search in the search box thing? Nope! I never got that far. Ten minutes trying to get real work done under Unity was enough to make me stop dead in the middle of my day and move to Mint. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 21 Jan 2013, at 16:05, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/21/2013 03:46 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: xterm worked like a charm with everything I tried. And that with the default xterm under Mac OS X. I don't know what or how it would be different under Linux. Of course, you need to have the proper fonts installed, but those are the base fonts, which I would normally always expect to be installed (except I did a new Ubuntu install at work a couple of weeks ago, and it turned out that the fonts were not installed, so it might be that the Linux world have finally totally lost their mind...) The Ubuntu "bosses" have totally lost THEIR minds. Everything else works fine. Yup. Shuttleworth is getting money-happy and some of the nuttier devs have been invading Debian for awhile now. :( I mean, seen that ubuntu store crap and the amazon search in the search box thing? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/21/2013 03:46 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: xterm worked like a charm with everything I tried. And that with the default xterm under Mac OS X. I don't know what or how it would be different under Linux. Of course, you need to have the proper fonts installed, but those are the base fonts, which I would normally always expect to be installed (except I did a new Ubuntu install at work a couple of weeks ago, and it turned out that the fonts were not installed, so it might be that the Linux world have finally totally lost their mind...) The Ubuntu "bosses" have totally lost THEIR minds. Everything else works fine. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 21 Jan 2013, at 15:54, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/21/2013 03:50 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I use plain old xterm for talking to my DEC machines. I use gnome-terminal for everything else. Out-of-the-box xterm works reasonably well, and all in all I'm pretty happy, but I have loved EDT since I was a kid, and not having a full keypad sucks. gnome-terminal from GNOME2 or GNOME3? GNOME2, the useful one. ;) Technically it's MATE Terminal, as I jumped ship from Ubuntu to Mint when the Ubuntu guys started getting "big head" problems and messed everything up. I love the idea of MATE, GNOME3 is a disaster, and continuing GNOME2 is a great thing. Mind, on Linux I just use Openbox anyway... Do you have any specific advice for xterm resource settings etc for better compatibility? I'm less worried about fonts...I'm comfortable wrangling them, been using X since the X10R4 (no typo there) days, but I'm not too concerned with maintaining font appearance compatibility. It's more keypad stuff, and functionality needed to drive EDT in a high-efficiency way. That's going back quite a ways. ;) Yes, sadly. But in my heart and mind, I'm still 22. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/21/2013 03:50 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I use plain old xterm for talking to my DEC machines. I use gnome-terminal for everything else. Out-of-the-box xterm works reasonably well, and all in all I'm pretty happy, but I have loved EDT since I was a kid, and not having a full keypad sucks. gnome-terminal from GNOME2 or GNOME3? GNOME2, the useful one. ;) Technically it's MATE Terminal, as I jumped ship from Ubuntu to Mint when the Ubuntu guys started getting "big head" problems and messed everything up. Do you have any specific advice for xterm resource settings etc for better compatibility? I'm less worried about fonts...I'm comfortable wrangling them, been using X since the X10R4 (no typo there) days, but I'm not too concerned with maintaining font appearance compatibility. It's more keypad stuff, and functionality needed to drive EDT in a high-efficiency way. That's going back quite a ways. ;) Yes, sadly. But in my heart and mind, I'm still 22. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

Cisco DECnet support, was Re: [HECnet] HECnet Area Request

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/21/2013 06:49 AM, John H. Reinhardt wrote: Can I have a Cisco route DECnet from two different network segments through one GRE tunnel? Or multiple tunnels for redundant connections? Certainly. Just enable DECnet on the relevant interfaces, be they physical network interfaces or tunnel pseudo-interfaces, by setting a decnet cost on them. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 21 Jan 2013, at 15:49, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/21/2013 03:09 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: PuTTY has been ported to Linux too? WTF? WHY?! For one, VTxxx compatibility. Unless one really understands the Xresources and how to move the appropriate fonts from VMS to Linux, build the fontdir, reset the font cache and update the font path, PuTTY is a right-out-of-the- box VTxxx emulation. Ok, I'll buy that. I use plain old xterm for talking to my DEC machines. I use gnome-terminal for everything else. Out-of-the-box xterm works reasonably well, and all in all I'm pretty happy, but I have loved EDT since I was a kid, and not having a full keypad sucks. gnome-terminal from GNOME2 or GNOME3? Do you have any specific advice for xterm resource settings etc for better compatibility? I'm less worried about fonts...I'm comfortable wrangling them, been using X since the X10R4 (no typo there) days, but I'm not too concerned with maintaining font appearance compatibility. It's more keypad stuff, and functionality needed to drive EDT in a high-efficiency way. That's going back quite a ways. ;) In this regard, the Mac OS X Terminal.app works surprisingly well right-out- of-the-box. Xterm on Linux will require extensive changes to get it to pass that VTTEST suite. I used Terminal.app when I was still using OS X and it worked ok. iTerm worked even better. Try your xterm and see how well it does with that test suite. Terminal.app can be used to used to see what should be there if you don't have a real VT terminal. Dave, I know you do. ;) I do indeed. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/21/2013 03:09 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: PuTTY has been ported to Linux too? WTF? WHY?! For one, VTxxx compatibility. Unless one really understands the Xresources and how to move the appropriate fonts from VMS to Linux, build the fontdir, reset the font cache and update the font path, PuTTY is a right-out-of-the- box VTxxx emulation. Ok, I'll buy that. I use plain old xterm for talking to my DEC machines. I use gnome-terminal for everything else. Out-of-the-box xterm works reasonably well, and all in all I'm pretty happy, but I have loved EDT since I was a kid, and not having a full keypad sucks. Do you have any specific advice for xterm resource settings etc for better compatibility? I'm less worried about fonts...I'm comfortable wrangling them, been using X since the X10R4 (no typo there) days, but I'm not too concerned with maintaining font appearance compatibility. It's more keypad stuff, and functionality needed to drive EDT in a high-efficiency way. In this regard, the Mac OS X Terminal.app works surprisingly well right-out- of-the-box. Xterm on Linux will require extensive changes to get it to pass that VTTEST suite. I used Terminal.app when I was still using OS X and it worked ok. iTerm worked even better. Try your xterm and see how well it does with that test suite. Terminal.app can be used to used to see what should be there if you don't have a real VT terminal. Dave, I know you do. ;) I do indeed. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

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