Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
On 2013-01-22 18:06, G. wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you
wrote: > >> There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or
not an emulation >> does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted
a service which I offer >> to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet
great-escape.tmesis.com' and login as >> VTTEST. There is no password.
It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm
using > PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once
before > writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24
terminal size, or > with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or
less a 120x60 terminal. > > OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data
with tcpdump and there is really > a CRLF where I think it should not: >
0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq
0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq
0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq
0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu
0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[
The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with
'(tm)'. Note > that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line...
:P
I believe that is because VMS is wrapping output at 80 characters, and
(unfortunately) don't realize that some characters are non-printing, as
they are part of escape sequences. So the wrapping happens, even though
we're not at column 80 yet.
Before one is logged in, it had assumed that the terminal buffer (screen
width) was 80 characters. I normally don't use telnet (in fact, VTTEST
is the only account that can connect REMOTE with telnet) so I didn't see
that the template device was at a default of 80 characters.
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On 2013-01-22 18:06, G. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote:
There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an emulation
does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I offer
to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login as
VTTEST. There is no password.
It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm using
PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once before
writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24 terminal size, or
with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or less a 120x60 terminal.
OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is really
a CRLF where I think it should not:
0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq
0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq
0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq
0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu
0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[
The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. Note
that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P
I believe that is because VMS is wrapping output at 80 characters, and (unfortunately) don't realize that some characters are non-printing, as they are part of escape sequences. So the wrapping happens, even though we're not at column 80 yet.
Johnny
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:33:21 -0500, you wrote:
Try it now. The default buffer size for the TNA0: template device is
obtained from the SYSGEN parameter TTY_BUF. It was 80 on that system
and I've now increased it to 132.
That's correct now. And I've learnt something too. :)
G.
On 22 Jan 2013, at 12:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
G. <gerry77 at mail.com> writes:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote:
There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an =
emulation > does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a
service which I = offer > to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet
great-escape.tmesis.com' and login= as > VTTEST. There is no password.
It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm =
using PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once
before writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24
terminal size, = or with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or
less a 120x60 = terminal.
OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is =
really a CRLF where I think it should not:
0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq
0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq
0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq
0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu
0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[
The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. =
Note that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P
HTH, G.
Try it now. The default buffer size for the TNA0: template device is
obtained from the SYSGEN parameter TTY_BUF. It was 80 on that system
and I've now increased it to 132.
Muuuuuuuuh nicer now.
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G. <gerry77 at mail.com> writes:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote:
There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an =
emulation > does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a
service which I = offer > to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet
great-escape.tmesis.com' and login= as > VTTEST. There is no password.
It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm =
using PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once
before writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24
terminal size, = or with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or
less a 120x60 = terminal.
OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is =
really a CRLF where I think it should not:
0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq
0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq
0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq
0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu
0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[
The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. =
Note that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P
HTH, G.
Try it now. The default buffer size for the TNA0: template device is
obtained from the SYSGEN parameter TTY_BUF. It was 80 on that system
and I've now increased it to 132.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:06 PM, G. <gerry77 at mail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote:
There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an emulation
does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I offer
to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login as
VTTEST. There is no password.
It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm using
PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once before
writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24 terminal size, or
with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or less a 120x60 terminal.
OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is really
a CRLF where I think it should not:
0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq
0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq
0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq
0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu
0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[
The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. Note
that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P
HTH,
G.
Hello!
Works here folks. Brian that's an amazing system so far.
Dave anything that went wrong so far is not your fault. Nor yours
Sampsa. I suspect its the fault of two others on this list.
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:57:35 -0500, you wrote:
There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an emulation
does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I offer
to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login as
VTTEST. There is no password.
It's me or the Tmesis ASCII-art logo appears somewhat scrambled? I'm using
PuTTY 0.62 (the latest) on Windows XP. I've tried more than once before
writing this, and got the same result either with a 80x24 terminal size, or
with a full screen PuTTY window that gives more or less a 120x60 terminal.
OK, just to be sure I looked at the raw data with tcpdump and there is really
a CRLF where I think it should not:
0x00b0: 316d 6d71 716b 2020 206c 7171 7171 7171 1mmqqk...lqqqqqq
0x00c0: 7171 7171 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 qqqqqwqqqqqqqqqq
0x00d0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 7171 7171 7177 7171 qwqqqqqqqqqqqwqq
0x00e0: 7177 7171 7171 7171 710d 0a71 7171 7175 qwqqqqqqq..qqqqu
0x00f0: 1b28 421b 5b30 3b31 6d20 2874 6d29 1b5b .(B.[0;1m.(tm).[
The above is the second Tmesis logo line, the one ending with '(tm)'. Note
that there is a CRLF pair on the fourth tcpdump line... :P
HTH,
G.
On 22 Jan 2013, at 10:28, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 22/01/2013, a les 15:57, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> va escriure:
There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an emulation
does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I offer
to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login as
VTTEST. There is no password.
great-escape.tmesis.com
Username: vtest
vttest, not vtest.
Password:
User authorization failure
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> writes:
El 22/01/2013, a les 15:57, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" =
<system at TMESIS.COM> va escriure:
There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an =
emulation
does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I =
offer
to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and =
login as
VTTEST. There is no password.
great-escape.tmesis.com
Username: vtest
Password:
User authorization failure
Isn't it wonderful to see VMS security working as advertised? :)
VTTEST not VTEST.
ie. VT TEST
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
El 22/01/2013, a les 15:57, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> va escriure:
There is a test suite which attempts to validate whether or not an emulation
does VT (DEC) escape sequences correctly. I posted a service which I offer
to run this suit yesterday. 'telnet great-escape.tmesis.com' and login as
VTTEST. There is no password.
great-escape.tmesis.com
Username: vtest
Password:
User authorization failure
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES