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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/23/2013 06:47 AM, John H. Reinhardt wrote: HP DL360 Gen 5. I have two I got on Ebay. Total cost about $1100 US. If my Pounds/Dollar conversion is about right, that's about the same as the DL380 you found. Two DL360's would fit in the same 2U rack space and give you some redundancy. Plus a lot more horsepower. ... I run VMWare ESXi 5 on both. Why? Because it's free, it works reasonably well and I'm lazy. There's an even better reason: It's a buttload more efficient, and a WHOLE lot more stable. (I'm not saying Linux isn't stable, mind you...but VMware ESXi is absolutely rock-solid and a whole lot simpler.) It would probably be more efficient to put a stripped Linux and VirtualBox Not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. Not even the same GAME. ESXi is a very thin hypervisor, while Linux is an entire fat lumbering kitchen-sink OS with a million potential points of failure. but it's nice to be able to just create a VM with a few measly clicks. The downside is that I have to run the VMWare vSphere Client on a Windows platform. In this case it's Windows 7 running on my Mac Pro inside a VMWare Fusion VM. You can do a lot of stuff from the BB shell within ESXi, though the command structure is somewhat obtuse. It's handy in emergencies. If you're just bringing up or shutting down VMs, etc, it's very easy to deal with, and you don't need to sully yourself with Winblows and end up with that "not so fresh" feeling. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

HIM - HECnet Instant Messenger

by sampsa＠mac.com

For ages now I've been wanting some kind of tool to see who is on HECnet, instead of spending ages PHONE DIRing to see if someone is logged into one of their multiple nodes. Thus I created HIM - at first it was simply meant to be a way to register your logged in node and user name using a "nick" (nickname - one VMS user can have many nicks, and more than one VMS user can use the same nick). Anyway, I realised pretty quickly that it'd be pretty simple to add a basic messaging service to the system as well - which explains the name :) Check it out at: http://rhesus.sampsa.com/him/ or RHESUS::[MEDIALIB.HIM] sampsa

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Sort of off-topic, co-locating area 8

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/23/2013 06:49 AM, Brett Bump wrote: I'm not too fond of windows past NT 4 for anything other than an occasional game. ;) I'd call it more masochism to be honest. I DID recently install it on a Pentium 4 though. ;) (Did you know it won't boot on a P4 HT?) I didn't. And from what they tell me, that knowledge is now IN my brain, and I cannot get those neurons back. I think Dave has a few extra neurons to spare. And if he can't get these back they must be core instead of dynamic. I think I'll see if we can get him to exhibit a RSTS "?Program lost, sorry" message. If anyone can, YOU can...heck, you were the guy who introduced me to RSTS, what, 27 or 28 years ago? I still have 2 DECServer 3300's (Alpha's) that I installed NT4 TSE on some time back before the turn of the century. Dastardly slow, but the only platform I had at the time at home to practice on to get Citrix certified. They really ran FreeBSD nice though, and since I had loaded 4 drives in each one, I think I also had copies of NetBSD and Linux (loaded via Milo). I wish they had been able to run VMS, alas they were the white elephants. They wouldn't run FreeBSD V4, until we stole a patch from the NetBSD boys. Well it seems VMS can indeed run on those. You wanna take the plunge? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years

Please add host 8.223 - WATAN

by sampsa＠mac.com

Could you add this host to the DB for my upcoming Beirut-based cluster. Will do. Still a little weird if you talk with MIM looking at known nodes, though. Yeah there's probably quite a few node names in Area 8 that could be deleted, I'll have a look and send you a list..

13 years

Please add host 8.223 - WATAN

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-01-23 22:05, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Johnny, Could you add this host to the DB for my upcoming Beirut-based cluster. Will do. Still a little weird if you talk with MIM looking at known nodes, though. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years

Please add host 8.223 - WATAN

by sampsa＠mac.com

Johnny, Could you add this host to the DB for my upcoming Beirut-based cluster. sampsa

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by b4＠gewt.net

On 23 Jan 2013, at 10:50, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote: Cory... if you don't need a lot of power, I believe I've seen several mini ITX with a lot of options including serial and hdmi / display port... I recently bought the new C64 for my son, and loaded it with an AMD E350 board... I know it has serial, pretty sure it has displayPort as well... Hmmm. That'd be an option, but I think my raspberry pi will suffice for now. (to Dave's point - $5 usb to serial can't be beaten) ;) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 18 Jan 2013, at 20:37, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: > On 1/18/2013 8:35 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: >>> If you can believe it or not my new laptop actually has a serial port. The funny thing is the old one didn't.:) >> Who made them though? (Old and new) >> > > HP. Old one was an EliteBook 8540p. New one is an EliteBook 8560p. > > They also ditched the HDMI port in favor of a DisplayPort one. Still not sure how I feel about that. Well, do you own anything that accepts DisplayPort? ;) > > -brian -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

13 years

Sync serial bridging over Ethernet, was Re: [HECnet] Multi-floor household (DECnet) routing help needed

by jferraro＠gmail.com

Cory... if you don't need a lot of power, I believe I've seen several mini ITX with a lot of options including serial and hdmi / display port... I recently bought the new C64 for my son, and loaded it with an AMD E350 board... I know it has serial, pretty sure it has displayPort as well... (to Dave's point - $5 usb to serial can't be beaten) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 18 Jan 2013, at 20:37, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: > On 1/18/2013 8:35 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: >>> If you can believe it or not my new laptop actually has a serial port. The funny thing is the old one didn't.:) >> Who made them though? (Old and new) >> > > HP. Old one was an EliteBook 8540p. New one is an EliteBook 8560p. > > They also ditched the HDMI port in favor of a DisplayPort one. Still not sure how I feel about that. Well, do you own anything that accepts DisplayPort? ;) > > -brian -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

13 years

Sort of off-topic, co-locating area 8

by jferraro＠gmail.com

Yeah.. I can't even use my 6 146GB SAS drives.. thin provisioning and text files have gone a long way there... it causes me stress to try to keep it all archived and indexed... :-p On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 23 Jan 2013, at 08:01, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote: At this post-rate, you may need to move the list-archive to Sampsa's 12TB data-warehouse (... errrr 6TB if he's *wasting* disk on R10 :) ).... My data-warehouse is only 5TB after RAID...9 before. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2013-01-23 08:14, Dave McGuire wrote: On 01/23/2013 02:06 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: El 23/01/2013, a les 3:37, sampsa at mac.com va escriure: Any other wacky ideas? The Hercules with VM + Debian + z/OS is obviously a must. Hmmm remember the blue boys are not so kind to hobbyists as HP is. You could get a nasty C&D letter from them... I've discussed this with Sampsa offline. Is this list publicly archived? All the messages are kept, but currently there is no way for a random person to get to the archive. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years

Sort of off-topic, co-locating area 8

by bbump＠rsts.org

Thanks Hans ;-) Brett On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: Three white box Alpha's will run VMS along with NT 4: the Digital Server 3300, 5305 and the 7305. The modification is found on home.zonnet.nl/hvlems and look for White Box Alpha's. The 5305 won't run True64 though. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Brett Bump <bbump at rsts.org> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 04:49:22 To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Sort of off-topic, co-locating area 8 On Tue, 22 Jan 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: On 01/22/2013 09:31 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Is that a proper Xeon or a P4 Xeon? No idea..But yeah, I'm going to get a beefy server with serious internet access (the place provides a gigabit pipe) for running various fun stuff on. Of course if other HECnet users have an idea for a cool project to run as a VM on the server, that'd be fun too. Will you let me run NT 4 TSE on it? ;) I'd love NT 4 on a gigabit pipe... It's a sickness. I'm not too fond of windows past NT 4 for anything other than an occasional game. ;) I'd call it more masochism to be honest. I DID recently install it on a Pentium 4 though. ;) (Did you know it won't boot on a P4 HT?) I didn't. And from what they tell me, that knowledge is now IN my brain, and I cannot get those neurons back. -Dave I think Dave has a few extra neurons to spare. And if he can't get these back they must be core instead of dynamic. I think I'll see if we can get him to exhibit a RSTS "?Program lost, sorry" message. I still have 2 DECServer 3300's (Alpha's) that I installed NT4 TSE on some time back before the turn of the century. Dastardly slow, but the only platform I had at the time at home to practice on to get Citrix certified. They really ran FreeBSD nice though, and since I had loaded 4 drives in each one, I think I also had copies of NetBSD and Linux (loaded via Milo). I wish they had been able to run VMS, alas they were the white elephants. They wouldn't run FreeBSD V4, until we stole a patch from the NetBSD boys. Brett

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