Maybe add a new URL handler like decnet://host/file/ that then uses the file system to retrieve the file?
Just an idea..Modifying the file:// handler code would be the easiest solution I should think, however.
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 17:45, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-01-29 16:02, Erik Olofsen wrote:
Well from this link
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
it doesn't seem to be straightforward...
That sounds silly. All that is needed is just to get the damned file specification literally down to the function that opens the file, and you are done.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 04:45:18PM +0200, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I wonder how hard that would be to change?
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 16:29, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Yes indeed - unfortunately it doesn't work because Lynx does not allow
a host:: name as part of the url...
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:26:01PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 14:53, Erik Olofsen wrote:
If we may use an url such as mim::something.html, which would normally be a
file:// there would be some basic functionality I think?
Right, since that is basically just using the file: transport/protocol.
The fact that files can be accessed transparently over DECnet makes it
possible to access documents "over DECnet".
Depending on how the parsing/handling of the url for something in the
file: domain is done, this might actually work straight away.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote:
HECnetters,
Is anyone interested in using Lynx on HECnet?
Using node names in the url is not possible; some information is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
On my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3.
It seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3.
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
Johnny
On 2013-01-29 16:02, Erik Olofsen wrote:
Well from this link
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
it doesn't seem to be straightforward...
That sounds silly. All that is needed is just to get the damned file specification literally down to the function that opens the file, and you are done.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 04:45:18PM +0200, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I wonder how hard that would be to change?
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 16:29, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Yes indeed - unfortunately it doesn't work because Lynx does not allow
a host:: name as part of the url...
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:26:01PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 14:53, Erik Olofsen wrote:
If we may use an url such as mim::something.html, which would normally be a
file:// there would be some basic functionality I think?
Right, since that is basically just using the file: transport/protocol.
The fact that files can be accessed transparently over DECnet makes it
possible to access documents "over DECnet".
Depending on how the parsing/handling of the url for something in the
file: domain is done, this might actually work straight away.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote:
HECnetters,
Is anyone interested in using Lynx on HECnet?
Using node names in the url is not possible; some information is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
On my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3.
It seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3.
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
Johnny
On 2013-01-29 15:36, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote: > HECnetters, > > Is anyone
interested in using Lynx on HECnet? > > Using node names in the url is
not possible; some information is here: > >
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html > > On
my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3. > > It
seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3. >
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
There are web servers for VMS and I believe you have one running on RSX.
The problem is not one of http but shipping that http over DECnet. Get
the browser and web server speaking DECnet and you're 99% of the way to
the goal.
Certainly there are web servers for both VMS and RSX. None of them (to my knowledge) speaks DECnet. And then you need some browser that also speaks DECnet, and which agrees on the protocol.
There is a problem with the standard http protocol which makes it slightly tricky with DECnet.
http expects to be able to send empty lines. DECnet don't do that. DECnet sends records, and empty records don't get sent at all. I realized this when looking at the MAIL-11 protocol...
So we'd need to do some changes to the http protocol to adopt it on DECnet...
Johnny
On 2013-01-29 15:29, Erik Olofsen wrote:
Yes indeed - unfortunately it doesn't work because Lynx does not allow
a host:: name as part of the url...
I suspected as much from the comments in the url you sent.
Seems silly, though. What happens if you just say "file://mim::info.txt" ?
(I must admit that I'm slightly confused on how many slashes are appropriate...)
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:26:01PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 14:53, Erik Olofsen wrote:
If we may use an url such as mim::something.html, which would normally be a
file:// there would be some basic functionality I think?
Right, since that is basically just using the file: transport/protocol.
The fact that files can be accessed transparently over DECnet makes it
possible to access documents "over DECnet".
Depending on how the parsing/handling of the url for something in the
file: domain is done, this might actually work straight away.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote:
HECnetters,
Is anyone interested in using Lynx on HECnet?
Using node names in the url is not possible; some information is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
On my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3.
It seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3.
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
Johnny
Well from this link
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
it doesn't seem to be straightforward...
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 04:45:18PM +0200, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I wonder how hard that would be to change?
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 16:29, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Yes indeed - unfortunately it doesn't work because Lynx does not allow
a host:: name as part of the url...
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:26:01PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 14:53, Erik Olofsen wrote:
If we may use an url such as mim::something.html, which would normally be a
file:// there would be some basic functionality I think?
Right, since that is basically just using the file: transport/protocol.
The fact that files can be accessed transparently over DECnet makes it
possible to access documents "over DECnet".
Depending on how the parsing/handling of the url for something in the
file: domain is done, this might actually work straight away.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote:
HECnetters,
Is anyone interested in using Lynx on HECnet?
Using node names in the url is not possible; some information is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
On my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3.
It seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3.
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
Johnny
I wonder how hard that would be to change?
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 16:29, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Yes indeed - unfortunately it doesn't work because Lynx does not allow
a host:: name as part of the url...
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:26:01PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 14:53, Erik Olofsen wrote:
If we may use an url such as mim::something.html, which would normally be a
file:// there would be some basic functionality I think?
Right, since that is basically just using the file: transport/protocol.
The fact that files can be accessed transparently over DECnet makes it
possible to access documents "over DECnet".
Depending on how the parsing/handling of the url for something in the
file: domain is done, this might actually work straight away.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote:
HECnetters,
Is anyone interested in using Lynx on HECnet?
Using node names in the url is not possible; some information is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
On my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3.
It seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3.
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
Johnny
Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote: > HECnetters, > > Is anyone
interested in using Lynx on HECnet? > > Using node names in the url is
not possible; some information is here: > >
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html > > On
my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3. > > It
seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3. >
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
There are web servers for VMS and I believe you have one running on RSX.
The problem is not one of http but shipping that http over DECnet. Get
the browser and web server speaking DECnet and you're 99% of the way to
the goal.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Yes indeed - unfortunately it doesn't work because Lynx does not allow
a host:: name as part of the url...
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:26:01PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 14:53, Erik Olofsen wrote:
If we may use an url such as mim::something.html, which would normally be a
file:// there would be some basic functionality I think?
Right, since that is basically just using the file: transport/protocol.
The fact that files can be accessed transparently over DECnet makes it
possible to access documents "over DECnet".
Depending on how the parsing/handling of the url for something in the
file: domain is done, this might actually work straight away.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote:
HECnetters,
Is anyone interested in using Lynx on HECnet?
Using node names in the url is not possible; some information is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
On my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3.
It seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3.
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
Johnny
On 2013-01-29 14:53, Erik Olofsen wrote:
If we may use an url such as mim::something.html, which would normally be a
file:// there would be some basic functionality I think?
Right, since that is basically just using the file: transport/protocol. The fact that files can be accessed transparently over DECnet makes it possible to access documents "over DECnet".
Depending on how the parsing/handling of the url for something in the file: domain is done, this might actually work straight away.
Johnny
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote:
HECnetters,
Is anyone interested in using Lynx on HECnet?
Using node names in the url is not possible; some information is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
On my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3.
It seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3.
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
Johnny
If we may use an url such as mim::something.html, which would normally be a
file:// there would be some basic functionality I think?
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-01-29 13:44, Erik Olofsen wrote:
HECnetters,
Is anyone interested in using Lynx on HECnet?
Using node names in the url is not possible; some information is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1997-01/msg00057.html
On my Alpha with VMS 6.1, I'm able to compile Lynx version 2.3.
It seems that the latest version, 2.8.7, does not compile under VMS 8.3.
Perhaps I'm going to have a look at the old sources; perhaps I'm going
to do something more useful...
Well, the basic "problem" is that there is no http object defined in
DECnet, nor any equivalent to the http protocol, so how would you expect
it to work?
DECnet is not IP, nor TCP.
Johnny
