On 30 Jan 2013, at 03:52, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
GORVAX:: is setup to cover Europe
Well, EMEA, I hope to have a few SIMH VAXen running in Beirut ASAP.
sampsa
The Multi-Watch procedures are by name. It relies on dynamic DNS. All
of this information is kept in a (very) simple, human-readable database.
GORVAX:: is setup to cover Europe and SG1:: is setup to cover the US.
That said, each machine does provide a backup link to certain machines
regardless of location.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Paul_Koning at Dell.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
Can it handle connections by name, where the changing address
is handled through dynamic DNS? If so, you could use
dyndns.org or an equivalent service to get a fixed name for
your varying address.
paul
On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Pete Edwards wrote:
Ok maybe I need to re-phrase the question.
My ISP now only offers me a dynamic IP address.
My understanding is that Johnny's bridge program is not tolerant of
changing IP addresses. Is that still the case?
So based on Sampsa's answer I can connect via a Multinet tunnel and
there's at least one Hecnet member (Steve Davidson) who can
keep that
connected even if the IP address changes?
Would that mean I need to move into another area or request
an area to myself?
Top-posting on top of a top-posted reply :) On 29 January
2013 00:30,
<sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Well Steve Davidson has built a system for updating IP
addresses of MULTINET circuits - it seems to work pretty well.
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 02:29, Pete Edwards
<stimpy.u.idiot at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
After a rather suddenly enforced break over 2 years ago I'm in a
position where I can try and get back onto HECNET.
I've renewed my VMS PAKs and have a couple of simh VMS
7.3 instances up again.
Unfortunately when I dropped off back then I lost my
static IP, so
step one, I guess, is asking this: What are the current
best options
the group has found to deal with dynamic addresses?
Alas FLETCH (1.100), my VS4000/60 has suffered some kind of disk
trauma during the intervening 2 house moves so it might
be a while
before I can connect a physical system.
Nice to see the return of the mapping project too - rather more
elegant than my own short-lived efforts.
Cheers,
Pete
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in
Millets!" -
HMHB
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets!" -
HMHB
Pete,
The SG1:: and GORVAX:: machines run the Multi-Watch procedures so
connection is usually not a problem. I prefer that you have your own
area, but it is really not necessary. You can become part of either
area that furnishes the other end of the link. Your node will end up
becoming a router anyway - the only question is which area it will
belong to.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Pete Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:36
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
Ok maybe I need to re-phrase the question.
My ISP now only offers me a dynamic IP address.
My understanding is that Johnny's bridge program is not
tolerant of changing IP addresses. Is that still the case?
So based on Sampsa's answer I can connect via a Multinet
tunnel and there's at least one Hecnet member (Steve
Davidson) who can keep that connected even if the IP address changes?
Would that mean I need to move into another area or request
an area to myself?
Top-posting on top of a top-posted reply :) On 29 January
2013 00:30, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Well Steve Davidson has built a system for updating IP
addresses of MULTINET circuits - it seems to work pretty well.
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 02:29, Pete Edwards
<stimpy.u.idiot at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
After a rather suddenly enforced break over 2 years ago I'm in a
position where I can try and get back onto HECNET.
I've renewed my VMS PAKs and have a couple of simh VMS 7.3
instances up again.
Unfortunately when I dropped off back then I lost my static IP, so
step one, I guess, is asking this: What are the current
best options
the group has found to deal with dynamic addresses?
Alas FLETCH (1.100), my VS4000/60 has suffered some kind of disk
trauma during the intervening 2 house moves so it might be a while
before I can connect a physical system.
Nice to see the return of the mapping project too - rather more
elegant than my own short-lived efforts.
Cheers,
Pete
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in
Millets!" -
HMHB
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in
Millets!" - HMHB
Mike,
I will be ready at this end when you are.
-Steve
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Michael Holmes
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:05
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] New HECnet Area Request
Thanks Johnny.
Steve,
I just got the OS installed late last night, so please be patient as I'll need to go and get the multinet SW and hobbyist license and before I can attempt to connect.
Once I get it all setup I'll send you my IP address and info to test a connection.
thanks.
> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:51:05 +0100
> From: bqt at softjar.se
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> CC: jeep at scshome.net; mholmes10 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [HECnet] New HECnet Area Request
>
> Mike, I'm putting area 39 to your name. Will Steve work for your connection?
>
> Johnny
>
> On 2013-01-29 11:55, Steve Davidson wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > Area 39 is available. If you decide to use Multinet Tunnels then configure it to connect to 69.21.253.158 and send me mail with your IP address. If it is a dynamic IP address then I will need to know the domain as well.
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Michael Holmes
> > Sent: Mon 1/28/2013 18:42
> > To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> > Subject: [HECnet] New HECnet Area Request
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My alphaserver 800 finally arrived and I'm setting it up now and would like to request a HECNET area so I experiment with connecting to HECNET.
> >
> > I saw a previous message listing available areas and I'd like to request area 39 if its not already spoken for.
> >
> > I finally found a SCSI drive that will work in it and am currently installing VMS 8.3 and DECNET IV on it right now.
> >
> > Hopefully will have it finished tonight and be able work on the HECNET options (router, etc) through the week and weekend.
> >
> > I also have a DEC 3000L and a multia that I'll try to bring back to life sometime later.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Alexandria, VA
> >
> >
> >
>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: 29 January 2013 23:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
2. Persuade someone who has a fixed IP to run the user mode router,
if you register your IP with something like DynDns then the user
mode router periodically checks for a change of IP.
Is the user mode router ready? I could deploy that..
[Rob Jarratt]
It has been used in a couple of configurations now and seems to work
OK, I use it permanently now. You could try it and if it does not work
for you it is only seconds to switch back to the bridge.
Oh I was going to run the bridge as well, act as a sort of connections hub
(Bridge, MULTINET on GORVAX and the user mode router).
What OS does the user mode router run on?
sampsa
It runs on Windows (as a Windows Service) and it runs on linux (as a
Daemon). I built the linux version on the Raspberry Pi using a flavour of
Debian. I think it has been built on FreeBSD too.
Regards
Rob
2. Persuade someone who has a fixed IP to run the user mode router, if
you register your IP with something like DynDns then the user mode
router periodically checks for a change of IP.
Is the user mode router ready? I could deploy that..
[Rob Jarratt]
It has been used in a couple of configurations now and seems to work OK, I
use it permanently now. You could try it and if it does not work for you it
is only seconds to switch back to the bridge.
Oh I was going to run the bridge as well, act as a sort of connections hub (Bridge, MULTINET on GORVAX and the user mode router).
What OS does the user mode router run on?
sampsa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: 29 January 2013 23:07
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
2. Persuade someone who has a fixed IP to run the user mode router, if
you register your IP with something like DynDns then the user mode
router periodically checks for a change of IP.
Is the user mode router ready? I could deploy that..
[Rob Jarratt]
It has been used in a couple of configurations now and seems to work OK, I
use it permanently now. You could try it and if it does not work for you it
is only seconds to switch back to the bridge.
Regards
Rob
2. Persuade someone who has a fixed IP to run the user mode router, if you
register your IP with something like DynDns then the user mode router
periodically checks for a change of IP.
Is the user mode router ready? I could deploy that..
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Pete Edwards
Sent: 29 January 2013 00:29
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
Hi All,
After a rather suddenly enforced break over 2 years ago I'm in a position
where I can try and get back onto HECNET.
I've renewed my VMS PAKs and have a couple of simh VMS 7.3 instances up
again.
Unfortunately when I dropped off back then I lost my static IP, so step
one, I
guess, is asking this: What are the current best options the group has
found
to deal with dynamic addresses?
[Rob Jarratt]
A couple of other options are:
1. Never switch off your router so that it keeps its IP address. In my case
(Virgin Media in the UK), my IP address does not change for months at a
time, and just ask Johnny (or whoever you peer to), to restart the bridge
with a new IP.
2. Persuade someone who has a fixed IP to run the user mode router, if you
register your IP with something like DynDns then the user mode router
periodically checks for a change of IP.
3. Use the upcoming SIMH emulation of the DMC11, which allows you to connect
using TCP to someone else who has a fixed IP. Again you would need to
persuade someone who has a static IP to peer with you. But the SIMH
emulation does actually do a fresh DNS lookup if the connection goes down,
so a change of IP would work in any case.
Regards
Rob
On 2013-01-29 20:25, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
On 2013-01-29, at 10:53 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-01-29 19:48, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Johnny
Did you manage to fix the problem with mim not reporting the full node list? It's about time I grabbed an updated copy (with all of the new additions) but I didn't want to grab something that was corrupt.
I've been fighting MIM about that, but for some reason it just will not cooperate. I have two solutons for you:
1. Copy each area as individual commands (MIM knows it all, it just seems that the list of known nodes does not list all known nodes now. Bug in NCP methinks at this point...)
2. Grab MIM::US:[DECNET]FIX.CMD which contains all the DEFINE commands for NCP for all the nodes, and run it in NCP on your machine.
I can create command files in other formats easily if there are any special requests. Just let me know...
Is it possible that there's just too many nodes on HECnet? Maybe overflowing a counter somewhere? Have we hit 256 nodes?
We're close to 500 nodes. Long time since we passed 256. :-)
Johnny
