Does it do IPv6? Like I mentioned, I have native IPv6 at the data center connected directly to Canada's CAnet academic backbone.
Ian
On 2013-02-01, at 5:41 PM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 2/1/2013 5:53 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
No dice.
Anyone know of a 2600 IOS image that fits in 16Mb that supports Decnet and ipv6? Oh, and ssh would be nice too:)
The 2600 that I acquired only has 16Mb of flash.
You know, in addition to the 1841 becoming available the 1811w is also going to be available. I might have to send one of those to you and one to Steve.
-brian
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On 2/1/2013 5:53 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
No dice.
Anyone know of a 2600 IOS image that fits in 16Mb that supports Decnet and ipv6? Oh, and ssh would be nice too:)
The 2600 that I acquired only has 16Mb of flash.
You know, in addition to the 1841 becoming available the 1811w is also going to be available. I might have to send one of those to you and one to Steve.
-brian
On 2/1/2013 6:01 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Also, perhaps explaining to people that a 'copy tftp running-config' will *merge* the config with the running config and won't overwrite it.
Thought I'd forward this to this list. I don't think this is common knowledge of how copying from tftp works.
-brian
On 2013-02-01 22:52, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
On a LAN without *any* DECnet routers all nodes are reachable irrespective of their DECnet address.
Once the first router comes on-line the mechanism fails.
Right.
HECnet is not running out of areas. But I feel it's pretty useless tot "claim" anarea for just 10 hosts.
We are getting close. We have currently allocated 39 areas out of 63.
The bridge program simulates a LAN and I feel that on a single LAN area routing may have its uses but not necessarily for us.
And even the routed links don't need to separate areas. That why level 1 routing exists.
Basically all our nodes fit in one area, perhaps 2.
In reality, all nodes known in HECnet fits without one area. For administrative purposes it makes a lot of sense to have more than one area, however.
But really, for people who only have a bunch of machines, and are happy running just endnodes, we really should just put that one in an existing area. Reserve something like 50 hosts at a time for such "subsections", and run with it. That's what I've done in area 1.
Johnny
Hans.
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From: Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net>
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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 16:29:56
To: Johnny Billquist<bqt at softjar.se>
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Joining HECNET
On 1 Feb 2013, at 16:27, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-02-01 22:22, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 1 Feb 2013, at 16:21, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Steve, since Wolfgang indicated he wanted to run an endnode, you'll have to decide the area.
Am I the only one that thinks an area dedicated to just endnodes is a good idea?
Probably, since that would be impossible. An area needs atleast one area router... Or are you saying that you think we should set up one area for people who only want to run endnodes? That seems like going over the river to get water.
I was thinking more like that, yes. I see your point though, maybe save that for when we're running out of areas.
Then everyone who wants to run an endnode needs to connect to some specific endpoint. And what for? There are absolutely no problems with having just an endnode anywhere.
That would get rather difficult, I see.
And since you need to have an area router, what is the problem of using an existing area router. Preferrably one close to you, and then just place your endnode in that area.
I am totally missing the point here, in which it seems people think that endnodes are somehow difficult. They are the simplest of DECnet nodes.
Johnny
Johnny
On 2013-02-01 22:11, Steve Davidson wrote:
Send me the following information (offline):
Your physical location: country at a minimum - this determines which Multinet router you will connect to
External dynamic - DNS name - this will be resolved every x number of minutes to maintain your link
DECnet area - this is used for naming the Multinet circuits
email address to send updates to (both external and internal (<node>::<username>))
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Wolfgang Eichberger
Sent: Fri 2/1/2013 02:30
To: Johnny Billquist
Cc: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Joining HECNET
Now as things settled I am back with my SimH/Vax (running 24/7 on a
raspberry pi) and my Alpha (an Alphastation 255 I newly aquired).
There are Decstations in Storage too (these odd MIPS Boxes) - maybe
one of these could be connected too - provided there's DECNet Support
in Ultrix.
There is. You just need to find the distribution.
Nice. I should have approbiate media and will give this a try.
You need to figure out who to connect to first, then we can fix the node
numbers. I have a terribly short memory. Who was it that could handle
Multinet with dynamic IP? Steve?
Care to help out? Also, Wolfgang, do you want to set a level 1 router, or do
you just epxect all your machines to be endnodes, and have each on have
their own link?
My memory isn't best too, so don't worry ;)
Primary intention is to bring up at least the simulated VAX 24/7. The
other machines would run on occasional basis. As my DecNET experience
is way too rusty best practice would be operating the simulated VAX as
Endnode for start.
It'd be greatly appreciated if Steve could help out with the Dynamic IP....
Regards,
Wolfgang
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On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 02/01/2013 05:02 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Decnet over ip6. Now that's cool:)
I've got IPv6 via HE here. Want to see if we can run our GRE tunnels
over IPv6? :)
I'm up for it. I have IPv6 via HE as well.
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
Hello!
IPv6 is available here. But my DSL device is too old for that.
Dave why is there a large hairy something or other parked in your
front yard quietly eating a big container of bananas?
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No dice.
Anyone know of a 2600 IOS image that fits in 16Mb that supports Decnet and ipv6? Oh, and ssh would be nice too :)
The 2600 that I acquired only has 16Mb of flash.
Ian
On 2013-02-01, at 2:50 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
I have native ip6 at my data center. I just need to see if my cisco IOS image has ip6 - let me check...
Ian
On 2013-02-01, at 2:04 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 1 Feb 2013, at 17:03, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 2/1/2013 5:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
DECnet over ip6 over ip4 encapsulated in a GRE tunnel, actually.;)
For most of us, yes. Not enough native IPv6 out there. :(
Exactly. :(
We need more native IPv6.
-brian
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I have native ip6 at my data center. I just need to see if my cisco IOS image has ip6 - let me check...
Ian
On 2013-02-01, at 2:04 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 1 Feb 2013, at 17:03, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 2/1/2013 5:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
DECnet over ip6 over ip4 encapsulated in a GRE tunnel, actually.;)
For most of us, yes. Not enough native IPv6 out there. :(
Exactly. :(
We need more native IPv6.
-brian
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On 1 Feb 2013, at 17:30, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On Feb 1, 2013, at 17:09, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 1 Feb 2013, at 17:07, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 02/01/2013 05:02 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Decnet over ip6. Now that's cool:)
I've got IPv6 via HE here. Want to see if we can run our GRE tunnels
over IPv6? :)
I'm up for it. I have IPv6 via HE as well.
Up for mesh over IPv6 GRE? ;)
Send me the needed info and I'll have the tool generate the configs. :)
2001:470:1F07:E53::1 should be the IP for my router.
On Feb 1, 2013, at 17:09, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 1 Feb 2013, at 17:07, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 02/01/2013 05:02 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Decnet over ip6. Now that's cool:)
I've got IPv6 via HE here. Want to see if we can run our GRE tunnels
over IPv6? :)
I'm up for it. I have IPv6 via HE as well.
Up for mesh over IPv6 GRE? ;)
Send me the needed info and I'll have the tool generate the configs. :)
On 01/31/2013 01:16 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I had a quick look in to this today and started setting up a lab, but
got distracted by real work. From what I can see though, you can't
execute any interface configuration commands. So, it would have to be
a complete copy of the config from FTP to NVRAM followed by a reboot.
Personally, I'd be a bit uneasy about downloading a random config
periodically and just loading it on to my router. If it was going to
be a mesh I'd rather get an update with the details of endpoints, etc.
and do it myself.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either.
Nor am I. I'm annoyed with how limited KRON is I expected it to be as [powerful as the rest of IOS.
Well...big Ciscos are usually used in environments where they are
either remotely managed centrally by a big software package, or by a
staff of people manually. I was quite surprised to hear that KRON even
existed, given how I've seen Ciscos managed in the past.
-Dave
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