I'd recommend KNO3 and a lot of it.
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Van: Steve Davidson
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Mulita issue
Verzonden: 10 februari 2013 20:46
I am pretty sure that a cup of gasoline will do quite nicely. Of course
if you are trying to make it impossible for anyone to identify it as
anything resembling a machine then you will probably need that much
anyway... :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 14:07
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Mulita issue
On Feb 9, 2013, at 17:58, Michael Holmes
<mholmes10 at hotmail.com> wrote.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the
MB and was wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be
used to fix the MULTIA.
The best tools to fix a Multia are a hammer, a quart of
gasoline and a match. :)
-brian
I am pretty sure that a cup of gasoline will do quite nicely. Of course
if you are trying to make it impossible for anyone to identify it as
anything resembling a machine then you will probably need that much
anyway... :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 14:07
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Mulita issue
On Feb 9, 2013, at 17:58, Michael Holmes
<mholmes10 at hotmail.com> wrote.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the
MB and was wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be
used to fix the MULTIA.
The best tools to fix a Multia are a hammer, a quart of
gasoline and a match. :)
-brian
Are you sure that nothing has changed on your setup since you booted the Multia successfully?
Any parameter? Anything of the HW?
On 10.2.2013 21:01, Michael Holmes wrote:
Yes I hooked up the vms install CDROM to the multia to boot and used the boot procedure with floppy and it pretty much stalls after the "starting bootstrap ..."message.
took the HD from the dec3000 with the image of the vms install disk and tried to boot from it with same results.
Bought a new (and expensive) floppy for it and same results.
Can flip to ARC and SRM consoles ok (not tried to boot under arc as I don't have win nt.)
---------
Just booted back up and it was at ARC console so I switched it over to SRM and power cycled it and now it's not powering the monitor.
Will have to find my serial cable and try to switch it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:06 AM, "Kari Uusim ki" <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote:
Do you have any chance to test booting from a directly connected SCSI CD-ROM or a disk?
Kari
On 10.2.2013 0:58, Michael Holmes wrote:
Forgive me if this is off topic, but I was reading about the fixes to
the VAXStation 4000 regarding chips.
I bought a multia several years back and I think it sucommed to being
moved to and from Germany and the States too many times.
I had it booting as a satelite off a DEC 3000 just fine, until this last
move.
I thought the battery had died and replaced it. (dead battery prevents
the bios from coming up)
I get the SRM console and i'd get MOP load message on the DEC 3000 but
the MULTIA just hangs after message about bootstrapping.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the MB and was
wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be used to fix the MULTIA.
thanks
Mike
IIRC my webpage has something on the Multia: home.zonnet.nl/hvlems
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Holmes <mholmes10 at hotmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:01:58
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SECc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Mulita issue
Yes I hooked up the vms install CDROM to the multia to boot and used the boot procedure with floppy and it pretty much stalls after the "starting bootstrap ..."message.
took the HD from the dec3000 with the image of the vms install disk and tried to boot from it with same results.
Bought a new (and expensive) floppy for it and same results.
Can flip to ARC and SRM consoles ok (not tried to boot under arc as I don't have win nt.)
---------
Just booted back up and it was at ARC console so I switched it over to SRM and power cycled it and now it's not powering the monitor.
Will have to find my serial cable and try to switch it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:06 AM, "Kari Uusim ki" <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote:
Do you have any chance to test booting from a directly connected SCSI CD-ROM or a disk?
Kari
On 10.2.2013 0:58, Michael Holmes wrote:
Forgive me if this is off topic, but I was reading about the fixes to
the VAXStation 4000 regarding chips.
I bought a multia several years back and I think it sucommed to being
moved to and from Germany and the States too many times.
I had it booting as a satelite off a DEC 3000 just fine, until this last
move.
I thought the battery had died and replaced it. (dead battery prevents
the bios from coming up)
I get the SRM console and i'd get MOP load message on the DEC 3000 but
the MULTIA just hangs after message about bootstrapping.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the MB and was
wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be used to fix the MULTIA.
thanks
Mike
On Feb 9, 2013, at 17:58, Michael Holmes <mholmes10 at hotmail.com> wrote.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the MB and was wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be used to fix the MULTIA.
The best tools to fix a Multia are a hammer, a quart of gasoline and a match. :)
-brian
Yes I hooked up the vms install CDROM to the multia to boot and used the boot procedure with floppy and it pretty much stalls after the "starting bootstrap ..."message.
took the HD from the dec3000 with the image of the vms install disk and tried to boot from it with same results.
Bought a new (and expensive) floppy for it and same results.
Can flip to ARC and SRM consoles ok (not tried to boot under arc as I don't have win nt.)
---------
Just booted back up and it was at ARC console so I switched it over to SRM and power cycled it and now it's not powering the monitor.
Will have to find my serial cable and try to switch it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:06 AM, "Kari Uusim ki" <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote:
Do you have any chance to test booting from a directly connected SCSI CD-ROM or a disk?
Kari
On 10.2.2013 0:58, Michael Holmes wrote:
Forgive me if this is off topic, but I was reading about the fixes to
the VAXStation 4000 regarding chips.
I bought a multia several years back and I think it sucommed to being
moved to and from Germany and the States too many times.
I had it booting as a satelite off a DEC 3000 just fine, until this last
move.
I thought the battery had died and replaced it. (dead battery prevents
the bios from coming up)
I get the SRM console and i'd get MOP load message on the DEC 3000 but
the MULTIA just hangs after message about bootstrapping.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the MB and was
wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be used to fix the MULTIA.
thanks
Mike
Hello everyone,
some recent messages about past DECnet Phases led me to do some research about
older Phases features and facilities. If I'm not wrong, and with a little bit
of oversimplification, I would say that Phase III is like Phase IV without
areas and just 255 nodes (and anything but DDCMP at data link level), but the
overall end-user functionality should be almost the same as Phase IV. Right?
But what about Phases I and II?
I've read that some Phase II implementations could be configured to run an
intercept function that would allow for simple star-shaped networks, with the
"interceptor" node acting as a central switch among at most 32 satellite nodes
(not to be confused with cluster satellites). But how that worked? I've also
read that DECnet "poor man's routing" had its birth just in Phase II days, so
was PMR needed to route messages thru the central node when sending from one
satellite to another, or was that automatic and PMR was needed only when stars
where connected together by their central nodes (if that was possible at all)?
Then, speaking about Phase I, was it strictly a point to point two-node thing
or some sort of "chaining" was available thanks to PMR?
That's all. Many thanks to who will shed some light on this topic,
G. :)
have to try the multia, give me a day or two, i had it set up to
reinstall on large disks, have to find the old disks, the miata is
completelly down, all green leds and neither serial nor graphic
;-(
On 2/10/13, Dan B <dibi58 at gmail.com> wrote:
yes, the noname boots the internal vms and tru64 disks fine
On 2/10/13, Kari Uusim ki <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote:
Do you have any chance to test booting from a directly connected SCSI
CD-ROM or a disk?
Kari
On 10.2.2013 0:58, Michael Holmes wrote:
Forgive me if this is off topic, but I was reading about the fixes to
the VAXStation 4000 regarding chips.
I bought a multia several years back and I think it sucommed to being
moved to and from Germany and the States too many times.
I had it booting as a satelite off a DEC 3000 just fine, until this last
move.
I thought the battery had died and replaced it. (dead battery prevents
the bios from coming up)
I get the SRM console and i'd get MOP load message on the DEC 3000 but
the MULTIA just hangs after message about bootstrapping.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the MB and was
wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be used to fix the MULTIA.
thanks
Mike
yes, the noname boots the internal vms and tru64 disks fine
On 2/10/13, Kari Uusim ki <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote:
Do you have any chance to test booting from a directly connected SCSI
CD-ROM or a disk?
Kari
On 10.2.2013 0:58, Michael Holmes wrote:
Forgive me if this is off topic, but I was reading about the fixes to
the VAXStation 4000 regarding chips.
I bought a multia several years back and I think it sucommed to being
moved to and from Germany and the States too many times.
I had it booting as a satelite off a DEC 3000 just fine, until this last
move.
I thought the battery had died and replaced it. (dead battery prevents
the bios from coming up)
I get the SRM console and i'd get MOP load message on the DEC 3000 but
the MULTIA just hangs after message about bootstrapping.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the MB and was
wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be used to fix the MULTIA.
thanks
Mike
Do you have any chance to test booting from a directly connected SCSI CD-ROM or a disk?
Kari
On 10.2.2013 0:58, Michael Holmes wrote:
Forgive me if this is off topic, but I was reading about the fixes to
the VAXStation 4000 regarding chips.
I bought a multia several years back and I think it sucommed to being
moved to and from Germany and the States too many times.
I had it booting as a satelite off a DEC 3000 just fine, until this last
move.
I thought the battery had died and replaced it. (dead battery prevents
the bios from coming up)
I get the SRM console and i'd get MOP load message on the DEC 3000 but
the MULTIA just hangs after message about bootstrapping.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the MB and was
wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be used to fix the MULTIA.
thanks
Mike
