On 02/11/2013 11:21 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
I tried to send you private mail to roll at stupi.se on January 12th, and
it just bounced. I was offering you an OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha CD image. Let
me know if you need it.
That would be cool. Bouncing mail, that's becouse Comcast don;t tell
you they do not provide connectivity to the whole Internet.. And my
mail sever is on the part they don't offer you.
Last time I checked, it was like this, if someone has an absolutely
imperatively important need to run their own mailserver, (mail going
in both directions), they needed to make a specific request. And then
convince or confuse the offended ISP.
I do have that need, and I do run a mail server, and I've made no such request. I'm on a Business class connection, which shares neither bandwidth, nor netblocks with dynamics, nor support staff. (my netblock *used* to be dynamic, but hasn't been used that way for several years)
For example, the last time I called them, the *first person who answered the phone* logged into a nameserver and corrected a PTR record for me. (I checked!)
Now, the routing issue Peter mentioned...that's a different matter, which I will need to check out. Lots of people and a few companies use my network, and I've not had any issues thus far. I've always despised the "cable company" ISPs, for obvious reasons, but Comcast Business has surprised me by being absolutely top-notch from (my) day one.
Comcast, and Cox, and Verizon, and even AT&T (down south), and
possibly Megapath, (mine), normally want to know why. But strangely
enough Megapath, doesn't care about a personal webserver living and
running here.
All or nearly all of the consumer services suck. They are like Wal*Mart...super cheap up front, but in the end you pay in some other way. Don't do it.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 11 Feb 2013, at 23:30, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 11 Feb 2013, at 23:21, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote:
I tried to send you private mail to roll at stupi.se on January 12th, and
it just bounced. I was offering you an OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha CD image. Let
me know if you need it.
That would be cool. Bouncing mail, that's becouse Comcast don;t tell
you they do not provide connectivity to the whole Internet.. And my
mail sever is on the part they don't offer you.
--P
-Dave
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Hello!
Last time I checked, it was like this, if someone has an absolutely
imperatively important need to run their own mailserver, (mail going
in both directions), they needed to make a specific request. And then
convince or confuse the offended ISP.
Comcast, and Cox, and Verizon, and even AT&T (down south), and
possibly Megapath, (mine), normally want to know why. But strangely
enough Megapath, doesn't care about a personal webserver living and
running here.
AT&T didn't care when I got port 25 unblocked i'm still blacklisted by every mail server due to a dynamic IP though. ;)
The TOS also explicitly allows web servers or used to anyway Mind I have a VPS and everything. ;)
(Bell ringing time: Dave there's a box by you complete with an
interesting gadget inside, currently being used by two cats as a
sleeping post, it really needs me.)
-----
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
Hello!
Then you must have found an intelligent helpdesk person. Every time I
would ask about that, and this was about ten years previously and
sadly after they started supplying their clueless helpdesk people
rather then the original crowd Covad had, I would be taken to task as
to why.... Oh and they had no idea what Linux was and what it did. The
fact that their hardware was a badly configured and quite out of date
system running Solaris 7 was an interesting and amusing fact.
I didn't even need to call the help desk it was a button on a website.
Badly configured and out of date Solaris 7? That's amusing.
As for running a website, I was aiding and abetting in that direction
about then as well, same box, but they were acting similarly.
Ahhh.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 11 Feb 2013, at 23:21, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote:
I tried to send you private mail to roll at stupi.se on January 12th, and
it just bounced. I was offering you an OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha CD image. Let
me know if you need it.
That would be cool. Bouncing mail, that's becouse Comcast don;t tell
you they do not provide connectivity to the whole Internet.. And my
mail sever is on the part they don't offer you.
--P
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Last time I checked, it was like this, if someone has an absolutely
imperatively important need to run their own mailserver, (mail going
in both directions), they needed to make a specific request. And then
convince or confuse the offended ISP.
Comcast, and Cox, and Verizon, and even AT&T (down south), and
possibly Megapath, (mine), normally want to know why. But strangely
enough Megapath, doesn't care about a personal webserver living and
running here.
AT&T didn't care when I got port 25 unblocked i'm still blacklisted by every mail server due to a dynamic IP though. ;)
The TOS also explicitly allows web servers or used to anyway Mind I have a VPS and everything. ;)
(Bell ringing time: Dave there's a box by you complete with an
interesting gadget inside, currently being used by two cats as a
sleeping post, it really needs me.)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
Hello!
Then you must have found an intelligent helpdesk person. Every time I
would ask about that, and this was about ten years previously and
sadly after they started supplying their clueless helpdesk people
rather then the original crowd Covad had, I would be taken to task as
to why.... Oh and they had no idea what Linux was and what it did. The
fact that their hardware was a badly configured and quite out of date
system running Solaris 7 was an interesting and amusing fact.
As for running a website, I was aiding and abetting in that direction
about then as well, same box, but they were acting similarly.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 11 Feb 2013, at 23:21, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote:
I tried to send you private mail to roll at stupi.se on January 12th, and
it just bounced. I was offering you an OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha CD image. Let
me know if you need it.
That would be cool. Bouncing mail, that's becouse Comcast don;t tell
you they do not provide connectivity to the whole Internet.. And my
mail sever is on the part they don't offer you.
--P
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Last time I checked, it was like this, if someone has an absolutely
imperatively important need to run their own mailserver, (mail going
in both directions), they needed to make a specific request. And then
convince or confuse the offended ISP.
Comcast, and Cox, and Verizon, and even AT&T (down south), and
possibly Megapath, (mine), normally want to know why. But strangely
enough Megapath, doesn't care about a personal webserver living and
running here.
AT&T didn't care when I got port 25 unblocked i'm still blacklisted by every mail server due to a dynamic IP though. ;)
The TOS also explicitly allows web servers or used to anyway Mind I have a VPS and everything. ;)
(Bell ringing time: Dave there's a box by you complete with an
interesting gadget inside, currently being used by two cats as a
sleeping post, it really needs me.)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote:
I tried to send you private mail to roll at stupi.se on January 12th, and
it just bounced. I was offering you an OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha CD image. Let
me know if you need it.
That would be cool. Bouncing mail, that's becouse Comcast don;t tell
you they do not provide connectivity to the whole Internet.. And my
mail sever is on the part they don't offer you.
--P
-Dave
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Hello!
Last time I checked, it was like this, if someone has an absolutely
imperatively important need to run their own mailserver, (mail going
in both directions), they needed to make a specific request. And then
convince or confuse the offended ISP.
Comcast, and Cox, and Verizon, and even AT&T (down south), and
possibly Megapath, (mine), normally want to know why. But strangely
enough Megapath, doesn't care about a personal webserver living and
running here.
(Bell ringing time: Dave there's a box by you complete with an
interesting gadget inside, currently being used by two cats as a
sleeping post, it really needs me.)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 02/11/2013 07:47 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
A pair of KS10s. (you know the ones)
What did you plan to run?
I haven't gotten that far yet...kinda moot with no disks. ;)
Is DECnet even possible if you run TOPS-20? I
seem to remember MRC mumbling at one time about him having hacked that,
but I'm not sure if it ever became officially supported or distributed.
Tops-10 might work with DECnet, but then I also wonder over which
interface, and if it do Phase IV...?
I don't know, but I'm willing to do what I've gotta do...can run DDCMP
lines to another machine, etc.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Panda20 based on 5.x monitor runs tops20 on the KS, but no DECnet.. -:)
What model? And sorry, any MASSBUS drives I might have access to are in
Sweden...
A pair of KS10s,
I divers for the KS to use RM02/RM03/RM05/RM80/RP04/RP05/RP06 I theory
you can use any SMD disk with the RM adaptor as long as it don't run
to fast (data separator clock speeed is limited to some 35Mbit)
I also did a SCSI card that fits in one of the empty slots, but that
was when I realized, you need more memory and more cpu...... -:)
DECnet on the 2020 is limited to Tops10 and Panda version of 4..x and
MTU is 320 bytes or so so you hae to be a end-node with the KMC/DUP.
-P
I tried to send you private mail to roll at stupi.se on January 12th, and
it just bounced. I was offering you an OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha CD image. Let
me know if you need it.
That would be cool. Bouncing mail, that's becouse Comcast don;t tell
you they do not provide connectivity to the whole Internet.. And my
mail sever is on the part they don't offer you.
--P
-Dave
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beg to differ, nt on apha in mid nineties had no viruses, worms,
trojans, et cetera, (which begs the question if that was the reason MS
dumped it)
On 2/11/13, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 02/11/2013 03:44 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I'm attempting to get NT 4 installed on my alpha server
es40 is there an NT 4 TSE hardware support disk for this?
I got it to boot using the DS20 disk but despite having 2
keyboards plugged in neither work in NT setup (this is early
setup, too!)
Any ideas? The ES40 hates this damn keyboard...
The stuff you're trying to mate is like 15-20 years apart...I
really don't think you're going to have much luck there.
15 years? TSE was released in 1998, the ES40 in 2000/2001, and
the current firmware build was released in 2007!
I don't know what "TSE" is, but I could've sworn the ES40 was more
like 2005, and NT for Alpha died (thank heaven) YEARS before 1998.
Terminal Services Edition. You might be thinking of the
discontinuation date for the ES40.
I don't think so, but either way..
Perhaps they (stupidly) kept supporting it ?
It seems they half-stopped supporting it. There are DS20 drivers
(2001 again) yet support WAS dropped in 1998.
That's frightening. They stopped pushing it as a viable platform in
like 1994. The last place I saw it deployed (not that there were many)
was gone by 1995.
Either way, though, NT on Alpha was very much a "first generation
Alphas" thing, and the ES family is a "last generation Alphas" thing.
I'd be shocked if it even came close to booting on a 21264-class
processor. ...which means I'm utterly shocked to hear of any DS20
support at all.
Well I learned something today. ;)
NT on Alpha had even less reason to exist than NT on DECstations.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I think I'll take the ide out, after imoaging it (hopefully,) would
you know of a way of using a 2.88 non dec floppy in there ? adapters
from the flat cable to the generic floppy one ? I'm wandering if I can
use a regular alpha one or an ibm rs6000 one, have a few spares, just
don't know if vms and the firmware may support it.
On 2/11/13, Kari Uusim ki <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote:
There were several options; a 2,5" SCSI disk, a 3,5" SCSI disk and a
2,5" IDE disk.
What I've found out with my Multias is that it is not recommended to use
an internal drive at all, because of the additional heat it produces.
The enclosure is not very well designed for sufficient cooling and
therefore it is best to try to minimize the heat load in every possible
way.
An external SCSI disk or enclosure with disks (such as a BA353) works fine.
Kari
On 11.2.2013 10:20, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Did you write IDE disk for a Multia?
ISTR it used a 2.5" scsi drive.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan B <dibi58 at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:03:10
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Mulita issue
also, for the drive, let the machine off but plugged into a socket for
24 hours, maybe needs to energize, I notice today with the multia, and
before with the vax, that they need enough charge on the batteries to
function
anyhow, that's how the isa corrupted message went off after a while,
so that issue is solved, not so for the ide hard disk, that one i
think is fried, still keeps appearing and disappearing
On 2/10/13, Dan B <dibi58 at gmail.com> wrote:
I have been using barracuda plain scsi-1, external, they are small but
run decent for everything (probably except windoze, never tried to run
it on scsi on alpha.) All three were barracuda, I lost one machine
(the miata, without counting a number of VAX, those have been dying
faster, I'm down to "one" now,) but not the drives.
The noise points to a bad drive, (hopefully not controller,) on linux
boxes, pc and pc server hardware, I have had a lot of disk failures,
sparc, sgi, hp9000 and ibm 6000 are built way better, hardly never
fail, consider that those alpha (and the small drives they came with,)
are now going to be 20 year old in a few months, the VAX is heading
for thirty, in so I expect those old drives to fail sooner or later, I
used to buy them by the lot, and still have boxes of small ones.
I'm more worried when the machines fail, those are hard to replace,
and parts may be really hard to find (like a multia floppy or internal
ide.) Probably is time to image all those drives, and if worse comes
to worse, run on stromasys or simh for the vax.
cheers,
daniel
;-)
On 2/10/13, Michael Holmes <mholmes10 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Found the hidden culprit.... The hard drive started making noises that
I
normally hear from a blender.
The multia booted fine when I set it to mop boot without any local disk
(slow but worked).
So next weekend I'll remove (or replace )the drive and do the fan
upgrade
everyone recommends.
Anyone know of any possible replacement scsi drives for multia's???
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, "Dan B" <dibi58 at gmail.com> wrote:
keep it in a cold place, the number one cause of death for multia is
processor overheating, it does not suffer cold, but fries processors
in the heat
On 2/10/13, Michael Holmes <mholmes10 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Oh gee what a picky machine....
It wasn't lighting up the flat panel monitor from SRM console.
Switched it to the same old CRT monitor I use with the DEC 3000 (only
monitor with RGB inputs)
and its displaying...
Damn thing is ACTUALLY booting off its little disk that I installed
vms
on
directly via the DEC 3000.
Now just have to convo boot the damn thing to fix its HOME server for
system
disks (node name and addresses changed when I connected to HECnet).
wish me luck...
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:42:08 +0200
From: uusimaki at exdecfinland.org
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Mulita issue
Are you sure that nothing has changed on your setup since you booted
the
Multia successfully?
Any parameter? Anything of the HW?
On 10.2.2013 21:01, Michael Holmes wrote:
Yes I hooked up the vms install CDROM to the multia to boot and
used
the
boot procedure with floppy and it pretty much stalls after the
"starting
bootstrap ..."message.
took the HD from the dec3000 with the image of the vms install disk
and
tried to boot from it with same results.
Bought a new (and expensive) floppy for it and same results.
Can flip to ARC and SRM consoles ok (not tried to boot under arc as
I
don't have win nt.)
---------
Just booted back up and it was at ARC console so I switched it over
to
SRM and power cycled it and now it's not powering the monitor.
Will have to find my serial cable and try to switch it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:06 AM, "Kari Uusim ki"
<uusimaki at exdecfinland.org>
wrote:
Do you have any chance to test booting from a directly connected
SCSI
CD-ROM or a disk?
Kari
On 10.2.2013 0:58, Michael Holmes wrote:
Forgive me if this is off topic, but I was reading about the
fixes
to
the VAXStation 4000 regarding chips.
I bought a multia several years back and I think it sucommed to
being
moved to and from Germany and the States too many times.
I had it booting as a satelite off a DEC 3000 just fine, until
this
last
move.
I thought the battery had died and replaced it. (dead battery
prevents
the bios from coming up)
I get the SRM console and i'd get MOP load message on the DEC
3000
but
the MULTIA just hangs after message about bootstrapping.
I heard something about an I/O chip that can go bad on the MB and
was
wondering if anyone had any ideas that could be used to fix the
MULTIA.
thanks
Mike
