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On 22 Feb 2013, at 13:37, Julian Wolfe <julian at twinax.org> wrote:
HI all,
Registered on HECnet many years ago, but was never able to get on for long or at all in the past. Now it seems this problem plagues me yet again in a different form.
I've got a PDP-11/23+ running RSTS/E 10.1 and DECnet/E 4.1 behind a DD-WRT router in my basement (WRT54GS, DD-WRT build 13064), and this is behind an AT&T U-Verse router. Something is going on with the packet source ports - they are being marked with a randomized source port.
My questions are: Does the source port matter, when using Johnny's bridge, and he knows my port?
If the port does matter, has anyone experienced this issue (specifically on AT&T U-Verse or otherwise) and solved it?
Is this something I can fix myself, or do I need to look for another solution?
The wierd part is, I used the bridge successfully for 2 days with the bridge installed on a Mac running Mac OS X 10.8. This machine was also talking through a different WRT54GS with DD-WRT build 13064 and identical settings to the other router (client bridged mode). I then moved the PDP to the basement with the rest of my servers, had it go through the linux box for the bridge, and suddenly the packets have this mangles source port. I tried switching it back to the Mac, and now this problem has cropped up there too.
Phew! Help! I just want to hang out with yous guys :)
I can't speak for Johnny's bridge, but you can use a virtual Cisco to join up if all else fails...assuming you can forward GRE.
Julian
HI all,
Registered on HECnet many years ago, but was never able to get on for long or at all in the past. Now it seems this problem plagues me yet again in a different form.
I've got a PDP-11/23+ running RSTS/E 10.1 and DECnet/E 4.1 behind a DD-WRT router in my basement (WRT54GS, DD-WRT build 13064), and this is behind an AT&T U-Verse router. Something is going on with the packet source ports - they are being marked with a randomized source port.
My questions are: Does the source port matter, when using Johnny's bridge, and he knows my port?
If the port does matter, has anyone experienced this issue (specifically on AT&T U-Verse or otherwise) and solved it?
Is this something I can fix myself, or do I need to look for another solution?
The wierd part is, I used the bridge successfully for 2 days with the bridge installed on a Mac running Mac OS X 10.8. This machine was also talking through a different WRT54GS with DD-WRT build 13064 and identical settings to the other router (client bridged mode). I then moved the PDP to the basement with the rest of my servers, had it go through the linux box for the bridge, and suddenly the packets have this mangles source port. I tried switching it back to the Mac, and now this problem has cropped up there too.
Phew! Help! I just want to hang out with yous guys :)
Julian
Hi Sampsa,
You may add area 28 or just node RULLFS too.
Erik
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:54:38AM +0200, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I found some DCL code on Deathrow's "Hack VMS FAQ" that outputs a nicely formatted listing of PHONE DIR.
So I took this code, ran it against a bunch of my hosts and ran it, and it works fine.
The output is in RHESUS::[.PHONEDIR]HECNETDIR.TXT
This service is opt-in: if you want you system listed in the phone directory, let me know and I'll add it to the script. Currently it only covers areas 8 and 47.
PS: Johnny, as we're not touching area 1, you shouldn't be getting those log messages I hope..
sampsa
If the Hezbollah tries to take my neighbourhood, I can hit a human head at 200m with an AK, I've tried (well it was a small melon) :)
I lie, I think the melon was at 120m, was a while ago
sampsa
Depending on the situation, a 30 km radius is enough, inside Beirut, 2-3 km is enough.
Shit, I'm 40 km from Tripoli and 70 km from Damascus...
If the Hezbollah tries to take my neighbourhood, I can hit a human head at 200m with an AK, I've tried (well it was a small melon) :)
Thawrat hatta an-nasr! (Revolution until victor)
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 19:02, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 02/22/2013 11:52 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah man, working on my residency permit.
0% tax on foreign income, my main client is in the EU and allows remote work.
Plus the excitement of shit going kaboom.
That's where we differ, my friend. I want to be as far as humanly
possible from shit going kaboom.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 02/22/2013 11:52 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah man, working on my residency permit.
0% tax on foreign income, my main client is in the EU and allows remote work.
Plus the excitement of shit going kaboom.
That's where we differ, my friend. I want to be as far as humanly
possible from shit going kaboom.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Yeah man, working on my residency permit.
0% tax on foreign income, my main client is in the EU and allows remote work.
Plus the excitement of shit going kaboom.
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 18:49, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 02/22/2013 11:22 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I still have no REAL idea of WTF that was all about, prob Amine Gemayel (our guy) going to meet the President (sorta not our guy)
But that's Beirut, instead of the typical "3 car tailback causing traffic to back up" it's "<Insert political guy here> closing half of fucking roundabouts with APCS and bunkers because he's going to meet <insert religious leader / state institution>, so no traffic on half the arteries. Sorry about that."
I love this place, it's like a fucking Vietnam movie meets Southern France.
And you go into this environment...willingly?? ;)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 02/22/2013 11:22 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I still have no REAL idea of WTF that was all about, prob Amine Gemayel (our guy) going to meet the President (sorta not our guy)
But that's Beirut, instead of the typical "3 car tailback causing traffic to back up" it's "<Insert political guy here> closing half of fucking roundabouts with APCS and bunkers because he's going to meet <insert religious leader / state institution>, so no traffic on half the arteries. Sorry about that."
I love this place, it's like a fucking Vietnam movie meets Southern France.
And you go into this environment...willingly?? ;)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
OK, Area 11 should now be displaying properly at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/phonedir/hecnetdir.txt
Lebanese hospitals aren't bad actually, you get free Wifi, weird French Catholic TV channels plus the usual Arabic satellite stuff (even Al Jazeera Sports and FOX Movies) and the food is seriously better than I've had in many European restaurants.
All for a measly 1000-3000 USD / day.
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 18:34, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Damn it, lazy approach didn't work, brb :)
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 18:32, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK, area 11 added.
I _REALLY_ need to start documenting what the hell runs where...
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 18:27, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Back to the topic, I can't remember where the hell to add hosts to this HECNET phone dir thing.
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 18:22, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I still have no REAL idea of WTF that was all about, prob Amine Gemayel (our guy) going to meet the President (sorta not our guy)
But that's Beirut, instead of the typical "3 car tailback causing traffic to back up" it's "<Insert political guy here> closing half of fucking roundabouts with APCS and bunkers because he's going to meet <insert religious leader / state institution>, so no traffic on half the arteries. Sorry about that."
I love this place, it's like a fucking Vietnam movie meets Southern France.
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 16:34, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
If you call half a dozen APCs with 50 cals and about a hundred soldiers closing a roundabout making late for Arabic class interesting, then yes.
Cab drivers just swearing, I ask him watch going on, he says he has no idea, then I see the giant flags of Bachir Gemayel.
Turns out March 14 or LF (the people I hang with were out marching). The army was there to stop out of control Shia youths petrol bombing a Church or something ,thus starting Civil War - Round 49.
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 15:41, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Sampsa, somehow I get the idea you lead a very interesting and exciting life :-)
-----Original Message-----
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:36:44
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Will do. In a hospital in Beirut because of the fiancee so this is kinda low on my priority list lol :)
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 15:31, Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com> wrote:
(Going through my mail) Area 11 is fine too.
--Saku
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Ok, areas 42 and 9 added.
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 00:58, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Sampsa,
You can add area 42 - my log files can take it :) If polling machines that aren't always up is a problem, then BET:: is always up, and my main machine.
Ian
On 2013-01-28, at 2:54 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I found some DCL code on Deathrow's "Hack VMS FAQ" that outputs a nicely formatted listing of PHONE DIR.
So I took this code, ran it against a bunch of my hosts and ran it, and it works fine.
The output is in RHESUS::[.PHONEDIR]HECNETDIR.TXT
This service is opt-in: if you want you system listed in the phone directory, let me know and I'll add it to the script. Currently it only covers areas 8 and 47.
PS: Johnny, as we're not touching area 1, you shouldn't be getting those log messages I hope..
sampsa
Hello!
About the protest I arranged that. Along with almost everything else.
Except why you find yourself inside that sort of place.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Damn it, lazy approach didn't work, brb :)
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 18:32, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK, area 11 added.
I _REALLY_ need to start documenting what the hell runs where...
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 18:27, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Back to the topic, I can't remember where the hell to add hosts to this HECNET phone dir thing.
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 18:22, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I still have no REAL idea of WTF that was all about, prob Amine Gemayel (our guy) going to meet the President (sorta not our guy)
But that's Beirut, instead of the typical "3 car tailback causing traffic to back up" it's "<Insert political guy here> closing half of fucking roundabouts with APCS and bunkers because he's going to meet <insert religious leader / state institution>, so no traffic on half the arteries. Sorry about that."
I love this place, it's like a fucking Vietnam movie meets Southern France.
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 16:34, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
If you call half a dozen APCs with 50 cals and about a hundred soldiers closing a roundabout making late for Arabic class interesting, then yes.
Cab drivers just swearing, I ask him watch going on, he says he has no idea, then I see the giant flags of Bachir Gemayel.
Turns out March 14 or LF (the people I hang with were out marching). The army was there to stop out of control Shia youths petrol bombing a Church or something ,thus starting Civil War - Round 49.
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 15:41, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Sampsa, somehow I get the idea you lead a very interesting and exciting life :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:36:44
To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] New attempt at HECNET PHONE directory
Will do. In a hospital in Beirut because of the fiancee so this is kinda low on my priority list lol :)
sampsa
On 22 Feb 2013, at 15:31, Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com> wrote:
(Going through my mail) Area 11 is fine too.
--Saku
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Ok, areas 42 and 9 added.
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 00:58, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
Sampsa,
You can add area 42 - my log files can take it :) If polling machines that aren't always up is a problem, then BET:: is always up, and my main machine.
Ian
On 2013-01-28, at 2:54 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I found some DCL code on Deathrow's "Hack VMS FAQ" that outputs a nicely formatted listing of PHONE DIR.
So I took this code, ran it against a bunch of my hosts and ran it, and it works fine.
The output is in RHESUS::[.PHONEDIR]HECNETDIR.TXT
This service is opt-in: if you want you system listed in the phone directory, let me know and I'll add it to the script. Currently it only covers areas 8 and 47.
PS: Johnny, as we're not touching area 1, you shouldn't be getting those log messages I hope..
sampsa
Hello!
About the protest I arranged that. Along with almost everything else.
Except why you find yourself inside that sort of place.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
