On 2013-02-25 20:46, Clem Cole wrote:
While I understand the emotion on this, one of the main SW guy the
vt-100 is an old friend (and screwed up the layout of two keyboards at
Masscomp after to he screwed up the vt-1xx series too IMH). Tom used to
say, the only real issue is keyboard layout because the rest is "just SW"
The other issue is that while the original VT-100 used ANSI sequences,
it was actually not ANSI. DEC released the terminal before the ANSI was
complete and there are a number of places where VT-100s differ from
sequences. So this also becomes an issue (and part of what Cory is
pointing out).
But the truth is a number of firms did parrot the VT-100 family
sequences bug-for-bug.
The problem is as Tom, says the unless you have a DEC keyboard layout,
you are mapping something and that tends the be source of much discomfort.
Yes, certainly there are always issues with different keyboards. No helping that.
However, things like iTerm2 don't even produce correct output given escape sequences.
And yes, the VT100 predates ANSI, but it's not really incompatible, but there are a bunch of DEC private sequences, that are not in the ANSI spec.
I'm not aware of any incompatibilities with the ANSI spec, but feel free to point them out to me.
Johnny
Clem
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net
<mailto:b4 at gewt.net>> wrote:
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On 25 Feb 2013, at 13:58, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
> On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
>> check out http://www.iterm2.com
>
> Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application,
but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
The only good VT100 emulation is a real VT100. ;)
>
> Johnny
>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
<mailto:sampsa at mac.com>
>> <mailto:sampsa at mac.com <mailto:sampsa at mac.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with
>> happiness.
>>
>> sampsa
>>
>> On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl
<mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>
>> <mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl <mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put
>> together
>> > some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is
such
>> > that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
>> > F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below
they
>> > correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
>> >
>> > xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
>> > 'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
>> > <Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
>> > <Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
>> > <Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
>> > <Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
>> > <Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
>> > <Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
>> > -e telnet <host>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson
wrote:
>> >> Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY
>> terminal. Some
>> >> of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will
>> depend on
>> >> what you are working with.
>> >>
>> >> -Steve
>> >>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>>
>> >>> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>> <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>>] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
>> >>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
>> >>>
>> >>> Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on
NOTES,
>> >>> for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users
use the
>> >>> DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
>> >>>
>> >>> Erik
>> >>>
>> >>
>
On 2013-02-25 20:29, Cory Smelosky wrote:
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On 25 Feb 2013, at 13:58, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
The only good VT100 emulation is a real VT100. ;)
I'll give you half a point for that. :-)
But honestly, so far, the best terminal emulator I've tried is xterm, which I actually are not aware of any bugs in right now. But feel free to point out the error of my ways.
Johnny
Johnny
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
<mailto:sampsa at mac.com>> wrote:
If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with
happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl
<mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put
together
> some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
> that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
> F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
> correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
>
> xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
> 'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
> <Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
> <Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
> <Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
> <Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
> <Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
> <Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
> <Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
> <Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
> <Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
> <Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
> <Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
> <Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
> <Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
> <Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
> <Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
> <Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
> <Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
> <Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
> <Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
> <Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
> <Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
> <Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
> -e telnet <host>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
>> Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY
terminal. Some
>> of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will
depend on
>> what you are working with.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>>> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
>>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
>>>
>>> Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
>>> for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
>>> DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>
While I understand the emotion on this, one of the main SW guy the vt-100 is an old friend (and screwed up the layout of two keyboards at Masscomp after to he screwed up the vt-1xx series too IMH). Tom used to say, the only real issue is keyboard layout because the rest is "just SW"
The other issue is that while the original VT-100 used ANSI sequences, it was actually not ANSI. DEC released the terminal before the ANSI was complete and there are a number of places where VT-100s differ from sequences. So this also becomes an issue (and part of what Cory is pointing out).
But the truth is a number of firms did parrot the VT-100 family sequences bug-for-bug.
The problem is as Tom, says the unless you have a DEC keyboard layout, you are mapping something and that tends the be source of much discomfort.
Clem
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
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On 25 Feb 2013, at 13:58, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
>> check out http://www.iterm2.com
>
> Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
The only good VT100 emulation is a real VT100. ;)
>
> Johnny
>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
>> <mailto:sampsa at mac.com>> wrote:
>>
>> If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with
>> happiness.
>>
>> sampsa
>>
>> On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl
>> <mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put
>> together
>> > some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
>> > that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
>> > F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
>> > correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
>> >
>> > xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
>> > 'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
>> > <Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
>> > <Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
>> > <Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
>> > <Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
>> > <Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
>> > <Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
>> > <Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
>> > -e telnet <host>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
>> >> Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY
>> terminal. Some
>> >> of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will
>> depend on
>> >> what you are working with.
>> >>
>> >> -Steve
>> >>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>> >>> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>> <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
>> >>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
>> >>>
>> >>> Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
>> >>> for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
>> >>> DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
>> >>>
>> >>> Erik
>> >>>
>> >>
>
The VT220 series are my favourite - nice and compact (compared to a Vt100).
Ian
On 2013-02-25, at 11:33 AM, <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> wrote:
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On 25 Feb 2013, at 13:58, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
The only good VT100 emulation is a real VT100. ;)
Or a VT2xx or later from DEC. Those are really solid implementations, for one thing because there was an incredibly detailed spec spelling out formally what every escape sequence does.
paul
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On 25 Feb 2013, at 13:58, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
The only good VT100 emulation is a real VT100. ;)
Or a VT2xx or later from DEC. Those are really solid implementations, for one thing because there was an incredibly detailed spec spelling out formally what every escape sequence does.
paul
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On 25 Feb 2013, at 13:58, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
The only good VT100 emulation is a real VT100. ;)
Johnny
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
<mailto:sampsa at mac.com>> wrote:
If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with
happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl
<mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put
together
some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
<Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
<Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
<Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
<Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
<Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
<Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
<Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
<Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
<Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
<Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
<Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
<Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
<Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
<Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
-e telnet <host>
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY
terminal. Some
of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will
depend on
what you are working with.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
Erik
On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.
Johnny
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
<mailto:sampsa at mac.com>> wrote:
If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with
happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl
<mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put
together
> some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
> that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
> F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
> correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
>
> xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
> 'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
> <Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
> <Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
> <Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
> <Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
> <Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
> <Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
> <Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
> <Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
> <Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
> <Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
> <Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
> <Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
> <Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
> <Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
> <Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
> <Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
> <Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
> <Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
> <Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
> <Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
> <Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
> <Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
> -e telnet <host>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
>> Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY
terminal. Some
>> of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will
depend on
>> what you are working with.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>>> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
>>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
>>>
>>> Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
>>> for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
>>> DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>
I suspect so. iterm2 has much more complete vtxxx support, extensions, abilities to use different HW etc. - check out the help files. You'll find reprogrammed configs for most every function I have personally looked.
The one complaint about item (first edition) and EDT is described here:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1470855?start=0&tstart=0
But I am under the impression that issue was fixed/supported in iterm2
That said, I don't use EDT on VMS so, I never looked for support for it on my Mac (vi and emacs are more to my liking) - but I know many people that loved EDT and TECO. In the early 1980's one of my co-worked wrote some elisp for emacs so the ex-VMS/EDT guys could move from UNIX. Funny, I remember the groussing at the time, although I don't think I know any of them that continued to use the crutch longer than a few months -- well except for Cantrell (who ended up writing a version of TECO in C see below), after they learned vi/emacs (like me) they went back since those editors are ubiquitous.
Clem
cut/pasted from: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TecoEditor
Paul Cantrell has released a particularly interactive version of TECO called Video TECO. http://videoteco.sourceforge.net/ has source available via CVS. A manual for this version is at http://www.copters.com/teco.html .
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:06, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
> check out http://www.iterm2.com
>
OK so I'm running it - doesn't seem to do that much more than Terminal.app - am I missing something here?
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:06, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
OK so I'm running it - doesn't seem to do that much more than Terminal.app - am I missing something here?
sampsa
Just realised, I don't have a number keypad anyway lol.
Need to buy a cheap USB keyboard later for my larger MBP..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:06, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
check out http://www.iterm2.com
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with happiness.
sampsa
On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put together
some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
xterm -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
<Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
<Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
<Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
<Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
<Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
<Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
<Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
<Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
<Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
<Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
<Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
<Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
<Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
<Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
<Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
<Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
<Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
<Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
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On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
Good question! I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY terminal. Some
of the functions map, others do not. It looks like it will depend on
what you are working with.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
Erik
