On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Afternoon all,
I managed to get this to boot in SIMH with minimal effort. (Started from
VMS 3.x and then installed 1.5 with a bunch of devices disabled)
sim> b rp2
Loading boot code from vmb.exe
VAX/VMS Version 1.50 12-APR-1979 09:30
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 04-APR-2013 14:39
OPCOM, 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.22, LOGFILE INITIALIZED, OPERATOR=_OPA0:
$ !
$ ! VAX/VMS system startup - Release 1
$ !
$ SHOW TIME
4-APR-2013 14:39:06
$ SET NOVERIFY
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, CONSOLE mounted on _DXA1:
Login quotas - Interactive limit=64, Current interactive value=0
SYSTEM job terminated at 4-APR-2013 14:39:06.49
Accounting information:
Buffered I/O count: 139 Peak working set size: 98
Direct I/O count: 38 Peak virtual size: 110
Page faults: 287 Mounted volumes: 1
Elapsed CPU time: 0 00:00:00.12 Elapsed time: 0 00:00:00.26
Username: SYSTEM
Password:
Welcome to VAX/VMS Version 1.50
$ sh network
NETWORK UNAVAILABLE
What kind of networking could I get working on this? Pre-Phase-IV using a
device SIMH doesn't have emulation support for? ;)
I can upload this disk image if anyone wants it.
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Hello!
Cory, yet another strange suggestion, what was your original host for
your image? Obviously SIMH for VAX but what was it running on? I was
thinking of your project a while back of running SIMH for VAX on an
RPI itself wearing a not updated release of Linux for it, and then
connected via a serial physical connection to one of your terminals.
The idea was to have one of those serial ports as a console, the other
as a means of connecting the image to the real world.
For a clue please read "Cuckoo's Egg" by Cliff Stoll, he describes how
his systems were all connected. And from the UCB campus to the
Internet.
If it works, then okay. If not, then blame Dave. Outside of the
rioting drunken Yetis, he needs more things to worry about.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
I know Coral66 was a DEC product. On RSX? VMS? Both?
paul
On Apr 5, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Dennis Boone wrote:
Did DEC have a compiler as a product for a while?
None of seem to think so. As I said, I asked some of the remaining guys
from the old Technical Languages team and none of us can remember an
Algol for the Vax anywhere inside of DEC. If some one did one, then it
would have been at a University.
That bit of the question was about CORAL66, not Algol.
De
Did DEC have a compiler as a product for a while?
None of seem to think so. As I said, I asked some of the remaining guys
from the old Technical Languages team and none of us can remember an
Algol for the Vax anywhere inside of DEC. If some one did one, then it
would have been at a University.
That bit of the question was about CORAL66, not Algol.
De
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote:
Did DEC have a compiler as a
product for a while?
None of seem to think so. As I said, I asked some of the remaining guys from the old Technical Languages team and none of us can remember an Algol for the Vax anywhere inside of DEC. If some one did one, then it would have been at a University.
One other lead to check is the SAIL/MainSail thread: SAIL user manual - The Stanford University InfoLab
Sail was popular on the PDP-10's, and I know it the Xidak put it on 68K Microprocessors like the Masscomp, Sun and Apollo boxes. They must have had a version for Vax, but I never saw it there (I did have on a Masscomp machine at one time).
Clem
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com<mailto:bob at jfcl.com>> wrote:
Mod2 and Mod3 were done in DEC research group, mostly by from ex-PARC folks
that had done Cedar et al
ftp:/gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/dec/<http://dec.com/pub/dec/>modula-2/m2.tar.z
Was the version I was referring.
The MVCompiler is of course the version from ETH
I don't see dec/modula-2. There is, however, dec/SRC/Modula-3/...
paul
There was the Algol derivative used mainly by the British armed
forces. Coral66 was the name. I have a manual for it.
The /780 where I cut my VMS teeth (VMS 3.3 or so) had help for CORAL66,
but I don't recall it being installed. Did DEC have a compiler as a
product for a while? It's not on the earliest SPL I have.
I'd love to find a copy of a VMS CORAL66 compiler somewhere. Would be
interesting to find a JOVIAL compiler as well.
De
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Interesting. I just connected to there via ftp looks like only Modula-3 is up there now. ;)
Yep - the DEC Mod compiler morphed into Mod3 (aka "Red" or CMU's "Tartan") for the history bufs among us,
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:11 PM, <Paul_Koning at dell.com> wrote:
BTW, please note that Algol 60 and Algol 68 are entirely different languages. Algol 68 is at least as distant from Algol 60 as Modula-2 is. The similarity in names is quite misleading.
Amen - which is why if all you want is Algol, I mentioned the awe compiler. Algol-W was Wirth's attempt at a teaching compiler when he was at Stanford and was originally in PL/360. It's a very simple language, just does Algol60 plus some small extras. From that experience he wanted a "better Algol." He would return to Europe and end up on a CDC box, which is why the original Pascal report is funky 6 bit based language. Since both Algol-W and Pascal were design to be teaching tools, not production tools, they lack support for things like separate compilation (i.e. modules and libraries).
Try three was Modula and was short lived. Second systems effect of the Pascal issues, and it was not until Modula 2 that he finally got it down to a reasonable language. Modula-3 was a tuning of Mod2 in reaction to what we become Ada.
Clem
