Gentlemen,
I managed to get the Linux DECNET stack on PYFFLE to work again, so it is now accessible through HECNET once more.
It's basically a classic BBS / discussion system + UUCP gateway to UUHECNET, made to look like Waffle BBS (the software that ran Mindvox).
So if you're bored, try SET HOST'ing to PYFFLE at your leisure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_(BBS_software)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindvox
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 2013-04-10 14:41, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-04-10 04:46, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hey all,
Quick question: How would I create a LAT terminal on RSX-11M+? What
manual covers that? Did I forget to create them when I did a SYSGEN? ;)
(btw, RSX-11M+ on SIMH works properly with DECnet now)
Thanks!
Noted that you had already solved the question, but a few comments and
information that people might find useful:
DECnet and LAT in general is not covered by SYSGEN (with the one
exception that you have to answer yes to a question in SYSGEN to allow
networks to be installed later).
While DECnet holds the LAT pieces, and DECGEN compiles everything, the
NETINS.CMD that gets created will not setup LAT completely. You need to
add one line to NETINS.CMD - right before the LCP START command, you
should add an LCP CREATE command).
LAT has its own database - both a permanent and a current, just like
NCP. You set values for both with LCP. There you can define how many
terminals you want, names of services, and what not.
Manuals for RSX, DECnet, as well as some layered products are not only
available at bitsavers. Stromasys (the Charon owners) also have RSX
manuals available. See
http://www.stromasys.ch/support/support-downloadds/charon-tb-downoads/
Spelling errors:
http://www.stromasys.ch/support/support-downloads/charon-tb-downloads/ is the correct url.
Johnny
On 2013-04-10 04:46, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hey all,
Quick question: How would I create a LAT terminal on RSX-11M+? What manual covers that? Did I forget to create them when I did a SYSGEN? ;)
(btw, RSX-11M+ on SIMH works properly with DECnet now)
Thanks!
Noted that you had already solved the question, but a few comments and information that people might find useful:
DECnet and LAT in general is not covered by SYSGEN (with the one exception that you have to answer yes to a question in SYSGEN to allow networks to be installed later).
While DECnet holds the LAT pieces, and DECGEN compiles everything, the NETINS.CMD that gets created will not setup LAT completely. You need to add one line to NETINS.CMD - right before the LCP START command, you should add an LCP CREATE command).
LAT has its own database - both a permanent and a current, just like NCP. You set values for both with LCP. There you can define how many terminals you want, names of services, and what not.
Manuals for RSX, DECnet, as well as some layered products are not only available at bitsavers. Stromasys (the Charon owners) also have RSX manuals available. See http://www.stromasys.ch/support/support-downloadds/charon-tb-downoads/
Johnny
On Tue, 10 Apr 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 9 Apr 2013, at 23:12, "Gregg Levine" <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Hey all,
Quick question: How would I create a LAT terminal on RSX-11M+? What manual covers that? Did I forget to create them when I did a SYSGEN? ;)
(btw, RSX-11M+ on SIMH works properly with DECnet now)
Thanks!
Hello!
I'm impressed. (Seriously!) Shouldn't the documentation be roosting on
Bit Savers? Now the question is what are you planning on doing with
this entity? And where'd you track down the stuff for running this
product.
None of the Bitsavers documentations appeared to have DECnet in the title?I didn't look at documentation for versions earlier than 4.x though.
Okay. A quick google showed that I wanted LCP CREATE/TERMINALS=24. The system now shows up in a SHOW NODES on my DECserver. Along with ULTRIX, VMS 4.7, VMS 5.2, VMS 7.3, FreeBSD 9, Linux on my pi, TOPS-20. RSTS/E, and anything else I may have forgotten.
I used the baseline image provided on either bitsavers or the trailing-edge ftp site?I forget which.
I had it previously installed in a VM and I wanted to enable LAT to use it from my VT420. ;)
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
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On 9 Apr 2013, at 23:12, "Gregg Levine" <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Hey all,
Quick question: How would I create a LAT terminal on RSX-11M+? What manual covers that? Did I forget to create them when I did a SYSGEN? ;)
(btw, RSX-11M+ on SIMH works properly with DECnet now)
Thanks!
Hello!
I'm impressed. (Seriously!) Shouldn't the documentation be roosting on
Bit Savers? Now the question is what are you planning on doing with
this entity? And where'd you track down the stuff for running this
product.
None of the Bitsavers documentations appeared to have DECnet in the title I didn't look at documentation for versions earlier than 4.x though.
I used the baseline image provided on either bitsavers or the trailing-edge ftp site I forget which.
I had it previously installed in a VM and I wanted to enable LAT to use it from my VT420. ;)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Hey all,
Quick question: How would I create a LAT terminal on RSX-11M+? What manual covers that? Did I forget to create them when I did a SYSGEN? ;)
(btw, RSX-11M+ on SIMH works properly with DECnet now)
Thanks!
Hello!
I'm impressed. (Seriously!) Shouldn't the documentation be roosting on
Bit Savers? Now the question is what are you planning on doing with
this entity? And where'd you track down the stuff for running this
product.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hey all,
Quick question: How would I create a LAT terminal on RSX-11M+? What manual covers that? Did I forget to create them when I did a SYSGEN? ;)
(btw, RSX-11M+ on SIMH works properly with DECnet now)
Thanks!
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 8 Apr 2013, at 22:46, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 04/08/2013 10:44 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 04/08/2013 10:31 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
And why do Ultra5s do that to you? Mine has been working rather well
as a webserver for a good many years.
Have you seen the build quality of other Sun machines?
I can stand up and jump up and down atop an Ultra60 or an E3500. Such
activity would literally FLATTEN an Ultra5.
Also, they're really, really slow compared to their contemporaries.
No offense intended, and I'm glad it's running well for you, but I'd never
go there myself.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
I see your point.
And be careful going outside to get the paper tomorrow. Where you are
will be hip deep in things we can't discuss here and now. But Corey
did it.
Oh don't tell me it's gonna snow again..
Well, it's been fairly warm here in Ohio so by Thursday it should be 20 below and a blizzard dropping 20ft. And then it'll be scorchingly hot on Saturday with a dust storm. Ohio weather is a strange thing not sure if PA's is as strange.
(Obviously I exaggerated a little bit)
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
No its much worse. Instead of raining windstorms where you are, it
will be delivering volleyball sized hale.
Actually in your case Dave, I arranged for an invasion of Ents to be
brought to you.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 8 Apr 2013, at 22:46, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 04/08/2013 10:44 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 04/08/2013 10:31 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
And why do Ultra5s do that to you? Mine has been working rather well
as a webserver for a good many years.
Have you seen the build quality of other Sun machines?
I can stand up and jump up and down atop an Ultra60 or an E3500. Such
activity would literally FLATTEN an Ultra5.
Also, they're really, really slow compared to their contemporaries.
No offense intended, and I'm glad it's running well for you, but I'd never
go there myself.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
I see your point.
And be careful going outside to get the paper tomorrow. Where you are
will be hip deep in things we can't discuss here and now. But Corey
did it.
Oh don't tell me it's gonna snow again..
Well, it's been fairly warm here in Ohio so by Thursday it should be 20 below and a blizzard dropping 20ft. And then it'll be scorchingly hot on Saturday with a dust storm. Ohio weather is a strange thing not sure if PA's is as strange.
(Obviously I exaggerated a little bit)
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 04/08/2013 10:44 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 04/08/2013 10:31 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
And why do Ultra5s do that to you? Mine has been working rather well
as a webserver for a good many years.
Have you seen the build quality of other Sun machines?
I can stand up and jump up and down atop an Ultra60 or an E3500. Such
activity would literally FLATTEN an Ultra5.
Also, they're really, really slow compared to their contemporaries.
No offense intended, and I'm glad it's running well for you, but I'd never
go there myself.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
I see your point.
And be careful going outside to get the paper tomorrow. Where you are
will be hip deep in things we can't discuss here and now. But Corey
did it.
Oh don't tell me it's gonna snow again..
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
