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OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by b4＠gewt.net

On Fri, 24 May 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/24/2013 01:05 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes? ;) Oh God I've seen that movie. What a horrible, horrible movie. It's why you don't let Disney make films about...well, any sort of technology. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

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OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by b4＠gewt.net

On Fri, 24 May 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/24/2013 01:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Maybe someone can tell me what the connection is between Cisco and Lisp as well, because I missed that one too... (All I know is the connection between Cisco and PDP-10s) Not the company, but the people. Bosack in particular worked extensively with Lisp Machines at Stanford...and was there ever a PDP-10 that DIDN'T run a lot of Lisp? ;) I can't think of one that didn't. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

12 years, 2 months

OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 05/24/2013 01:05 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes? ;) Oh God I've seen that movie. What a horrible, horrible movie. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA Hello! Well yes. It was a typically silly Disney movie, made for one purpose. To keep people who didn't know any better entertained. This does not explain why there's an orange thing with cheap sneakers at work inside your place programming mayhem, and allowing the Daleks and Cybermen entry to do their worst. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 05/24/2013 01:05 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes? ;) Oh God I've seen that movie. What a horrible, horrible movie. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 2 months

OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 05/24/2013 01:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Maybe someone can tell me what the connection is between Cisco and Lisp as well, because I missed that one too... (All I know is the connection between Cisco and PDP-10s) Not the company, but the people. Bosack in particular worked extensively with Lisp Machines at Stanford...and was there ever a PDP-10 that DIDN'T run a lot of Lisp? ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 2 months

OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Fri, 24 May 2013, Gregg Levine wrote: On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 05/24/2013 12:43 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: Funny you should mention the keyword NuBus in your presentation. Yes the Apple Mac II machines used it. They licensed it from TI, who developed it while exploring the wonders of Lisp. Anyone here remember the Lisp Machines that were extremely popular once? Oh yes, I have several of them here, all Symbolics. A 3640, 3645, and an XL1201. One was made by TI. And it used that expansion bus. Yes, the TI Explorer. I hadn't remembered that that was where NuBus came from. Neat. Then it's less of a happenstance thing that Cisco used it, given their Lisp connections back then. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA Hello! Okay then. ----- **Those machines are being used by something big and orange wearing cheap sneakers, to support a massive delivery of bad data on a network nearby.** The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes? ;) ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments Hello! No not Goldy's favorite. Try the monster who spent several hours last week or so, banging on your Tops-10 (or Tops-20) setup. He moved and is now doing worse on those machines. In fact its aimed in your direction...... -- ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

12 years, 2 months

OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by b4＠gewt.net

On Fri, 24 May 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2013-05-24 18:48, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/24/2013 12:43 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: Funny you should mention the keyword NuBus in your presentation. Yes the Apple Mac II machines used it. They licensed it from TI, who developed it while exploring the wonders of Lisp. Anyone here remember the Lisp Machines that were extremely popular once? Oh yes, I have several of them here, all Symbolics. A 3640, 3645, and an XL1201. Speaking of which... Update have (had?) a Symbolics machine (might have been a 3640). Back when I was poking at it some, I found that there was DECnet for the Symbolics machines, but I never managed to locate that. Anyone who happen to have it? Oh wow. DECnet for LISP machines. That sounds awesome. Johnny -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

12 years, 2 months

OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by b4＠gewt.net

On Fri, 24 May 2013, Gregg Levine wrote: On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 05/24/2013 12:43 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: Funny you should mention the keyword NuBus in your presentation. Yes the Apple Mac II machines used it. They licensed it from TI, who developed it while exploring the wonders of Lisp. Anyone here remember the Lisp Machines that were extremely popular once? Oh yes, I have several of them here, all Symbolics. A 3640, 3645, and an XL1201. One was made by TI. And it used that expansion bus. Yes, the TI Explorer. I hadn't remembered that that was where NuBus came from. Neat. Then it's less of a happenstance thing that Cisco used it, given their Lisp connections back then. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA Hello! Okay then. ----- **Those machines are being used by something big and orange wearing cheap sneakers, to support a massive delivery of bad data on a network nearby.** The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes? ;) ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

12 years, 2 months

OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 05/24/2013 07:00 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote: Funny you should mention the keyword NuBus in your presentation. Yes the Apple Mac II machines used it. They licensed it from TI, who developed it while exploring the wonders of Lisp. Anyone here remember the Lisp Machines that were extremely popular once? Oh yes, I have several of them here, all Symbolics. A 3640, 3645, and an XL1201. One was made by TI. And it used that expansion bus. Yes, the TI Explorer. I hadn't remembered that that was where NuBus came from. Neat. Then it's less of a happenstance thing that Cisco used it, given their Lisp connections back then. ??? There is no NuBus in cisco land... There is PCI (VIP/7200 port adapters) I believe it was you yourself who introduced me to Cbus and explained that it was a NuBus implementation, at Digex in '93, I think when you brought us that IGS with some pre-release code on it to do our first real BGP peering. I would be happy to stand corrected, however. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 2 months

OT: old Ciscos, was Re: [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-05-24 19:00, Peter Lothberg wrote: On 05/24/2013 12:43 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: Funny you should mention the keyword NuBus in your presentation. Yes the Apple Mac II machines used it. They licensed it from TI, who developed it while exploring the wonders of Lisp. Anyone here remember the Lisp Machines that were extremely popular once? Oh yes, I have several of them here, all Symbolics. A 3640, 3645, and an XL1201. One was made by TI. And it used that expansion bus. Yes, the TI Explorer. I hadn't remembered that that was where NuBus came from. Neat. Then it's less of a happenstance thing that Cisco used it, given their Lisp connections back then. ??? There is no NuBus in cisco land... There is PCI (VIP/7200 port adapters) Maybe someone can tell me what the connection is between Cisco and Lisp as well, because I missed that one too... (All I know is the connection between Cisco and PDP-10s) Johnny

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