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Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

by jferraro＠gmail.com

Ok, point taken... I will be careful with my wording in the future... but *source* may indeed prove useful. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 06/11/2013 09:45 AM, Joe Ferraro wrote: > Admittedly, posting without quick research, apologies... > > Where does one come by Ultrix sources these days, is it hobbyist > licensable (or "abandonware"), and what hardware is needed? Ultrix *sources*? I don't know about the licensing, but I do have some Ultrix source code. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Bridge down?

by sampsa＠mac.com

I can't seem to reach psilo, I could yesterday - something wrong? sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +961 788 10537

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Couple of Unix/DECnet questions

by tonyblews＠gmail.com

Hi all, I've got a couple of questions concerning Linux and Ultrix and DECnet. So, in rough order... 1) Is there an easy way to copy the node list into the /etc/decnet.conf file without a lot faffing about and making the file up manually? 2) How can I get DECnet back into the Raspbian kernel without recompiling the whole thing? I haven't recompiled a Linux kernel for about 16 years, so I pretty much have so idea what I'm doing. 3) (Ok, three is not a couple, except in certain *special* circumstances) Has anyone managed to get DECnet working with Ultrix 4.0 and SimH? Where can I get some licenses from? 4) (Proving that I really can't count) Is HECnet broke at the moment? Tony.

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Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

by clemc＠ccc.com

I'm stretching brain cells here (and suppressed bad memories), but I think I remember trying to chase and fix a DECnet issue/bug with Pathworks and Ultrix 4.4 on a Vax 8000 series system for someone like Merrill Lynch or an equally high visibility customer. But I generally tried to stay clear of anything to do with DECnet on Ultrix or Tru64 believing that the networking gods wanted IP ;-) Clem On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote: >does the MIPS version of Ultrix do DECNET? Yes, there was a DECnet kit for MIPS Ultrix. It's a separate product from the OS, though. Bob

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Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

by clemc＠ccc.com

Check out "the Unix Heritage Society": http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl to see what was "released" to the world. My memory is that DEC only released a very early version of Ultrix. The last release of Ultrix was something like 4.6 (I'll have the check my notes, but I'm traveling) - and on PMAX and VAX. Over the course of time, Ultrix ran on: PDP-11 models with a MMU both with and without separated I/D space, most of not all of the Vaxen (except for the 9000 I believe), and MIPS 2K,3K,4K systems that Digital made. Historical note: the original Alpha HW was brought up running Ultrix, but that was never a product ;-) Later version of Ultrix will run best on PMAX's made with a MIPS 4400 - which was the last "new" processor that Ultrix supported. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote: Admittedly, posting without quick research, apologies... Where does one come by Ultrix sources these days, is it hobbyist licensable (or "abandonware"), and what hardware is needed? Joe On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: I'm going for Ultrix for now - I'm a total TOPS-20 noob, would need a lot of hand-holding to get the thing to run I fear... sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +961 788 10537 On 11 Jun 2013, at 11:36, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner- >> hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Jordi Guillaumes i Pons >> Sent: 11 June 2013 09:13 >> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE >> Cc: Sampsa Laine >> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image >> ready to run? >> >> Al 11/06/13 10:05, En/na Sampsa Laine ha escrit: >>> Got some spare cycles/RAM on one of my boxes, would be fun to run >> TOPS-20 or Ultrix with DECNET? >>> >>> Anyone got a working image / HOWTO on getting this going? >> For TOPS-20, you can enable DECNET in the panda distribution with not too >> much effort. I tried to explain how to do it here: >> >> http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/ten-over-pi.html >> >> The main problem is the network setup. You will have to work in shared >> mode and it can wreck the host machine NIC. > > Aren't we mixing up a couple of things here? > > The Panda distribution, as far as I know, runs on the KL, which SIMH does > not emulate. SIMH emulates the KS and right now you can't run DECnet on the > KS. There is work being done now to bring the KMC/DUP emulation to SIMH to > allow DECnet to run on the KS. You should contact the SIMH mailing list for > status on this. > > Regards > > Rob >

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Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 06/11/2013 10:44 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: I would like to play with Ultrix too. I tried to install it some time ago and didn't succeed (no docs, a probably corrupted media image...). Are there viable media available somewhere? Docs? I have tape images for Ultrix/VAX v4.0. I have a physical CD for it as well, but possibly a later release, as well as one for MIPS, but I've not yet imaged them. I don't recall their release numbers because I haven't seen them in probably fifteen years, but I know what box they're in. I will try to dig them up soon. Docs...It's BSD UNIX, man! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 06/11/2013 09:45 AM, Joe Ferraro wrote: Admittedly, posting without quick research, apologies... Where does one come by Ultrix sources these days, is it hobbyist licensable (or "abandonware"), and what hardware is needed? Ultrix *sources*? I don't know about the licensing, but I do have some Ultrix source code. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: Al 11/06/13 15:45, En/na Joe Ferraro ha escrit: Admittedly, posting without quick research, apologies... Where does one come by Ultrix sources these days, is it hobbyist licensable (or "abandonware"), and what hardware is needed? Joe On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com <mailto:sampsa at mac.com>> wrote: I'm going for Ultrix for now - I'm a total TOPS-20 noob, would need a lot of hand-holding to get the thing to run I fear... I would like to play with Ultrix too. I tried to install it some time ago and didn't succeed (no docs, a probably corrupted media image...). Are there viable media available somewhere? Docs? Tes. I believe I found them up on TUHS. You're limited to 4.0 though. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

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Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote: Quick question for those in the know - does the MIPS version of Ultrix do DECNET? I'd assume so. I've not confirmed this though. The reason I ask is that I found something called GXemul that'll give me graphics more or less "natively"..Check it out: http://gxemul.sourceforge.net I'd test...but I've never gotten GXemul to run. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

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Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Joe Ferraro wrote: Admittedly, posting without quick research, apologies... Where does one come by Ultrix sources these days, is it hobbyist licensable (or "abandonware"), and what hardware is needed? Should run on a MicroVAX 3900, haven't tested other systems using SIMH yet. It's more "abandonware" but licenses can be "made" if you know how. You can get install media from TUHS iirc. Joe On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: I'm going for Ultrix for now - I'm a total TOPS-20 noob, would need a lot of hand-holding to get the thing to run I fear... sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +961 788 10537 On 11 Jun 2013, at 11:36, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner- hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Sent: 11 June 2013 09:13 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Cc: Sampsa Laine Subject: Re: [HECnet] Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run? Al 11/06/13 10:05, En/na Sampsa Laine ha escrit: Got some spare cycles/RAM on one of my boxes, would be fun to run TOPS-20 or Ultrix with DECNET? Anyone got a working image / HOWTO on getting this going? For TOPS-20, you can enable DECNET in the panda distribution with not too much effort. I tried to explain how to do it here: http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/ten-over-pi.html The main problem is the network setup. You will have to work in shared mode and it can wreck the host machine NIC. Aren't we mixing up a couple of things here? The Panda distribution, as far as I know, runs on the KL, which SIMH does not emulate. SIMH emulates the KS and right now you can't run DECnet on the KS. There is work being done now to bring the KMC/DUP emulation to SIMH to allow DECnet to run on the KS. You should contact the SIMH mailing list for status on this. Regards Rob -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

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