On 16.6.2013 23:51, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Dave McGuire wrote:
I've never heard of it
http://h30266.www3.hp.com/masterindex/installation_guide/installation_guide_
0000b767.txt
It's basically the VMS kit that contains the DS200 load software, but it
comes with several useful command procedures too.
Bob
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You are looking for Terminal server booting configuration management rather than terminal server configuration (ports etc) management, right?
El 17/06/2013, a les 19:07, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> va escriure:
Johnny,
I can't telnet to MIM.Update.UU.SE nor can I ping it from my Cisco ( the only bit of it that DOES work right now...;) ). Telnet connects but is just blank.
Is MIM down or have I broken something?
It's unreachable from here too:
[BITXOV]$ dir mim::
%DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening MIM::*.*;* as input
-RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed
-SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable
[BITXOV]$ set host mim
%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
Johnny,
I can't telnet to MIM.Update.UU.SE nor can I ping it from my Cisco ( the only bit of it that DOES work right now...;) ). Telnet connects but is just blank.
Is MIM down or have I broken something?
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 06/16/2013 05:12 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Dave McGuire wrote:
I've never heard of it
http://h30266.www3.hp.com/masterindex/installation_guide/installation_guide_
0000b767.txt
It's basically the VMS kit that contains the DS200 load software, but it
comes with several useful command procedures too.
Neat! Thanks for the pointer. I've always just gotten the bare images and
dropped them into place...I guess I never stopped to think of how those
images would've gotten installed in the first place.
When I was a VMS sysadmin, we used a few Emulex terminal servers
("Performance 4000" if memory serves) that were really nice...I don't recall
them having to boot from the network, though. I have a few of those here
with dead power supplies. I should send them to Cory. ;)
They did and they had their own kludgy load assist agent for MOP.
Ahh, your memory is better than mine! Could they boot from the regular MOP
server or did they require that agent?
I don't remember the explicit details. I recall that Emulex and Xyplex had
tertiary boot loaders. The DECserver 90s and 700s and 900s began to support
TCP/IP and most sites dropped their Emulex and Xyplex servers at that time.
The Datability (Vista) Terminal Servers had their software in flash.
Never 'eard of 'em.
http://www.thecomputerarchive.com/archive/Computer%20Components%20and%20Acc…
Datability chassis could accept modules with 25 pin, 9 pin or MMJ connectors,
as well as 50 pin telco connectors which allowed one to connect a trunk with
a single cable to a harmonica of MMJ connectors at some more remote location.
The number of ports it could support was based upon the number of connectors
that could be housed on the back apron of the module. The MMJ options offer
the densest port configurations with 32 on each module and 4 modules/chassis.
IIRC, Datability was HQed in Carlstadt, north JoyZee.
--
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
I could use one of these as well if you don't mind... ;)
-Connor
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
> Dave McGuire wrote:
> ("Performance 4000" if memory serves) ...
>I don't recall them having to boot from the network, though.
They probably had a ROM (or EPROM or FLASH) with the complete firmware in
them - there was a low end DECserver (I forget the number) that did too.
> I have a few of those here with dead power supplies. I should send them
to Cory. ;)
Send me one too - I need another terminal server!
Bob
Just an update: I've added a video of our distro hero in action to that blog post...
http://www.sampsa.com/2013/06/16/linux-wannabe-devs-the-few-the-brave-the-s…
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 17 Jun 2013, at 02:40, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Why not ask Google(!) regarding the different penguins who cover the
planet? That's one reason. The other reason is that its different. And
appropriate. Linux is different so it needs its own individual
packaging system.
Why does a Hat and a Lizard agree on packaging schemes?
Or for that matter why do so many anarchists agree on one thing? The
licensing scheme. Sampsa I admire your efforts for that post on your
blog, but when you consider that someone needed to do something first,
there's a reason for everything.
One talented individual had an interesting philosophy and it boils
down to one thing, "Let's be unreasonable.".
----
But this does not explain Cory why your entire house is surrounded by
several bored and very hungry Yetis? And it does not explain why
Sampsa there is something resembling a rock digging through things all
around your flat.
Isn't it obvious? They're Linux Kernel developers.
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Why not ask Google(!) regarding the different penguins who cover the
planet? That's one reason. The other reason is that its different. And
appropriate. Linux is different so it needs its own individual
packaging system.
Why does a Hat and a Lizard agree on packaging schemes?
Or for that matter why do so many anarchists agree on one thing? The
licensing scheme. Sampsa I admire your efforts for that post on your
blog, but when you consider that someone needed to do something first,
there's a reason for everything.
One talented individual had an interesting philosophy and it boils
down to one thing, "Let's be unreasonable.".
----
But this does not explain Cory why your entire house is surrounded by
several bored and very hungry Yetis? And it does not explain why
Sampsa there is something resembling a rock digging through things all
around your flat.
Isn't it obvious? They're Linux Kernel developers.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
--
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:22, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
At least with the BSDs you have like 3 variants.
Why do these morons insist there must be 300+ ways to package a kernel and
the same userland tools?
Same reason we have a startup bubble right now: community (or school
counsellor) pressure. This also applies to the media saying: this is great
for the soul!"
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 17 Jun 2013, at 00:18, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:15, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.sampsa.com/2013/06/16/linux-wannabe-devs-the-few-the-brave-the-s…
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
Linux is 95% politics, 3% needless ABI/API changes, 1% new features, 1%
championing a twisted version of freedom.
This generally applies to both the kernel and the distros...Linux inherited
the nonstandard standards and incompatibility-across-distros thing from UNIX
unfortunately. :(
LSB is NOT standard...RedHat is also not the Gold Standard for a
commercial linux or a linux period.
Hello!
Why not ask Google(!) regarding the different penguins who cover the
planet? That's one reason. The other reason is that its different. And
appropriate. Linux is different so it needs its own individual
packaging system.
Why does a Hat and a Lizard agree on packaging schemes?
Or for that matter why do so many anarchists agree on one thing? The
licensing scheme. Sampsa I admire your efforts for that post on your
blog, but when you consider that someone needed to do something first,
there's a reason for everything.
One talented individual had an interesting philosophy and it boils
down to one thing, "Let's be unreasonable.".
----
But this does not explain Cory why your entire house is surrounded by
several bored and very hungry Yetis? And it does not explain why
Sampsa there is something resembling a rock digging through things all
around your flat.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 2013-06-16 23:15, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 06/16/2013 05:13 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Send me one too - I need another terminal server!
Do you, seriously? (and didn't we discuss this before? bad memory here)
I have many spare 200/MCs, I'd be happy to send you one or two. The Emulex
TSs really do have blown power supplies. All of them, I think.
If you have plenty of them, I have a DS300 in need of a new PS here... ;-) (It's the same as the 200)
Johnny
--
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|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:22, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
At least with the BSDs you have like 3 variants.
Why do these morons insist there must be 300+ ways to package a kernel and the same userland tools?
Same reason we have a startup bubble right now: community (or school counsellor) pressure. This also applies to the media saying: this is great for the soul!"
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 17 Jun 2013, at 00:18, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 17:15, "Sampsa Laine" <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
http://www.sampsa.com/2013/06/16/linux-wannabe-devs-the-few-the-brave-the-s…
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
Linux is 95% politics, 3% needless ABI/API changes, 1% new features, 1% championing a twisted version of freedom.
This generally applies to both the kernel and the distros...Linux inherited the nonstandard standards and incompatibility-across-distros thing from UNIX unfortunately. :(
LSB is NOT standard...RedHat is also not the Gold Standard for a commercial linux or a linux period.
