On 8/09/2013 11:18 PM, Mark Darvill wrote:
On 08/09/2013 15:45, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 08 September 2013 14:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Config Details Required
On 2013-09-08 15:48, Mark Darvill wrote:
HI,
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the
near future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to act
as
a peer?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hmmm... Didn't know much about DECbrouter until I looked it up following
these emails. If I have it right
(http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/mds-199909/cd2/network/decbroma.pdf)
all DECbrouters have only one Ethernet interface and a one or more
(depending on model) WAN connections using synchronous serial lines. I am
wondering how this could be used on HECnet. I don't think anyone offers any
synchronous serial way into HECnet, or am I wrong?
That leaves the one Ethernet interface. To be able to use that would need
the bridge (or my user mode router, or some other hardware router) to be on
the same LAN. But at that point there wouldn't be a lot of point having the
DECbrouter as it would not have anything to route.
Have I missed something? Is the DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) a different beast?
Regards
Rob
I should be able to set up the DECbrouter 90 as a one armed router behind my main internet Router which is a Cisco 1800. All I need it for is to encapsulate DECnet and then forward it to a peer via my internet connected router. It won't be the highest performance but it will get the Area up, I can then change it at a later date if required.
BTW, my Cisco 1800 does not support DECnet or GRE so this is not an option.
Does anyone have any peering info or the config used either on a Cisco or DECbrouter.
Hi Mark,
I have a Cisco 857 which provides my connection to the 'net. I have the following NAT rules on my Cisco 867 (gatekeeper) to pass GRE/IP packets through to my DECbrouter 90T2:
interface Vlan1
ip address 172.17.111.254 255.255.255.0
ip nat inside
interface Dialer0
ip nat outside
ip nat inside source static tcp 172.17.111.251 1723 interface Dialer0 1723
Then on my DECbrouter 90T2 (a12rtr) I just set up the tunnels, like so:
interface Tunnel52
description HECnet tunnel for ...
no ip address
decnet cost 20
tunnel source Ethernet0
tunnel destination ....
However, as Dave pointed out (and I said earlier) when Brian catches up with the list he can add you to the mesh and you will receive all the configuration details from him.
I am also likely able to track down a version of the Cisco 1800 IOS that can do DECnet and GRE/IP (if you're interested).
Regards, Tim.
On 09/08/2013 10:23 AM, Mark Darvill wrote:
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the near
future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to
act as a peer?
Johnny
V11.1 supports GRE, Decnet IV Level 1 and 2 so I am hoping so. :-)
Brian can get you hooked up with his automatic meshed-tunnel config
generator, when he catches up on list mail.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2013-09-08 16:45, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 08 September 2013 14:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Config Details Required
On 2013-09-08 15:48, Mark Darvill wrote:
HI,
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the
near future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to act
as
a peer?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hmmm... Didn't know much about DECbrouter until I looked it up following
these emails. If I have it right
(http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/mds-199909/cd2/network/decbroma.pdf)
all DECbrouters have only one Ethernet interface and a one or more
(depending on model) WAN connections using synchronous serial lines. I am
wondering how this could be used on HECnet. I don't think anyone offers any
synchronous serial way into HECnet, or am I wrong?
That leaves the one Ethernet interface. To be able to use that would need
the bridge (or my user mode router, or some other hardware router) to be on
the same LAN. But at that point there wouldn't be a lot of point having the
DECbrouter as it would not have anything to route.
Have I missed something? Is the DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) a different beast?
You seemed to have disregarded the possibility of the DECbrouter doing the same thing your user mode router do... :-)
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 08/09/2013 15:45, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 08 September 2013 14:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Config Details Required
On 2013-09-08 15:48, Mark Darvill wrote:
HI,
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the
near future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to act
as
a peer?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hmmm... Didn't know much about DECbrouter until I looked it up following
these emails. If I have it right
(http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/mds-199909/cd2/network/decbroma.pdf)
all DECbrouters have only one Ethernet interface and a one or more
(depending on model) WAN connections using synchronous serial lines. I am
wondering how this could be used on HECnet. I don't think anyone offers any
synchronous serial way into HECnet, or am I wrong?
That leaves the one Ethernet interface. To be able to use that would need
the bridge (or my user mode router, or some other hardware router) to be on
the same LAN. But at that point there wouldn't be a lot of point having the
DECbrouter as it would not have anything to route.
Have I missed something? Is the DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) a different beast?
Regards
Rob
I should be able to set up the DECbrouter 90 as a one armed router behind my main internet Router which is a Cisco 1800. All I need it for is to encapsulate DECnet and then forward it to a peer via my internet connected router. It won't be the highest performance but it will get the Area up, I can then change it at a later date if required.
BTW, my Cisco 1800 does not support DECnet or GRE so this is not an option.
Does anyone have any peering info or the config used either on a Cisco or DECbrouter.
Thanks, Mark
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Tim Sneddon wrote:
No, that's the one. The DECbrouter, running IOS 10.3 or higher supports
GRE/IP, which provides a tunnel across an IP network. The current
HECnet Cisco mesh consists of a Cisco 1800, DECbrouter 90T2, Cisco 2611,
Cisco 7206 and other Cisco gear.
3745 and 7204STD on my end.
Regards, Tim.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 08 September 2013 14:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Config Details Required
On 2013-09-08 15:48, Mark Darvill wrote:
HI,
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the
near future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to act
as
a peer?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hmmm... Didn't know much about DECbrouter until I looked it up following
these emails. If I have it right
(http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/mds-199909/cd2/network/decbroma.pdf)
all DECbrouters have only one Ethernet interface and a one or more
(depending on model) WAN connections using synchronous serial lines. I am
wondering how this could be used on HECnet. I don't think anyone offers any
synchronous serial way into HECnet, or am I wrong?
I would offer one if someone were to pay the phone bill. ;)
That leaves the one Ethernet interface. To be able to use that would need
the bridge (or my user mode router, or some other hardware router) to be on
the same LAN. But at that point there wouldn't be a lot of point having the
DECbrouter as it would not have anything to route.
Have I missed something? Is the DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) a different beast?
Regards
Rob
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 8/09/2013 10:45 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 08 September 2013 14:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Config Details Required
On 2013-09-08 15:48, Mark Darvill wrote:
HI,
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the
near future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to act
as
a peer?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hmmm... Didn't know much about DECbrouter until I looked it up following
these emails. If I have it right
(http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/mds-199909/cd2/network/decbroma.pdf)
all DECbrouters have only one Ethernet interface and a one or more
(depending on model) WAN connections using synchronous serial lines. I am
wondering how this could be used on HECnet. I don't think anyone offers any
synchronous serial way into HECnet, or am I wrong?
That leaves the one Ethernet interface. To be able to use that would need
the bridge (or my user mode router, or some other hardware router) to be on
the same LAN. But at that point there wouldn't be a lot of point having the
DECbrouter as it would not have anything to route.
Have I missed something? Is the DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) a different beast?
No, that's the one. The DECbrouter, running IOS 10.3 or higher supports GRE/IP, which provides a tunnel across an IP network. The current HECnet Cisco mesh consists of a Cisco 1800, DECbrouter 90T2, Cisco 2611, Cisco 7206 and other Cisco gear.
Regards, Tim.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 08 September 2013 14:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Config Details Required
On 2013-09-08 15:48, Mark Darvill wrote:
HI,
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the
near future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to act
as
a peer?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hmmm... Didn't know much about DECbrouter until I looked it up following
these emails. If I have it right
(http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/mds-199909/cd2/network/decbroma.pdf)
all DECbrouters have only one Ethernet interface and a one or more
(depending on model) WAN connections using synchronous serial lines. I am
wondering how this could be used on HECnet. I don't think anyone offers any
synchronous serial way into HECnet, or am I wrong?
That leaves the one Ethernet interface. To be able to use that would need
the bridge (or my user mode router, or some other hardware router) to be on
the same LAN. But at that point there wouldn't be a lot of point having the
DECbrouter as it would not have anything to route.
Have I missed something? Is the DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) a different beast?
Regards
Rob
On 8/09/2013 10:23 PM, Mark Darvill wrote:
On 08/09/2013 14:51, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-09-08 15:48, Mark Darvill wrote:
HI,
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the near
future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to act as a peer?
Johnny
V11.1 supports GRE, Decnet IV Level 1 and 2 so I am hoping so. :-)
Yup, it definitely works fine. I have a DECbrouter 90T2 that I use to connect to HECnet running IOS 10.3(7), I am on area 12.
However, at the moment I am having a bit of trouble with my router I and am waiting on a spare to be sent to me.
Brian Hechinger is the guy who is maintaing all the links. He follows the list and will likely answer you very soon.
Regards, Tim.
On 08/09/2013 14:51, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-09-08 15:48, Mark Darvill wrote:
HI,
I will be bringing up a new decnet area on hecnet (Area 22) in the near
future.
Can I please have info on the peering for IP and any other config
details that may help. I will be using a DECbrouter 90 (Cisco) V11.1.
So, anyone know if the DECrouter will do, and who would be willing to act as a peer?
Johnny
V11.1 supports GRE, Decnet IV Level 1 and 2 so I am hoping so. :-)
