HECnet

hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se

5 participants
15580 discussions

PMDF (was: Re: Zaphod down for a few days)

by fcoffey＠thrifty.misernet.net

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Marc Chametzky wrote: If you go to http://www.process.com/openvms/hobbyist.html and click on "[License Terms and PAKs]", one of the products you can select (after you agree to the license) is PMDF. Thanks - this is exactly what I needed. I'm not sure why I didn't see it before when I fetched my Multinet PAK. Now I'm just waiting for my PMDF PAK to arrive. I will hopefully have time over the weekend to get this set up. Cheers & thanks again ... Fred --- The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all his customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who by peddling second-hand, second-rate technology, led them all into it in the first place. (Douglas Adams, '95)

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by sampsa＠mac.com

WOO HOO. It actually sort of works. I've managed to tie into the <PROTOCOL>% handler with a couple of hundred lines of C code that I modified from what I was sent and the MAIL program quite happily produces XML output. Now all that's left to do is to write a little python script to pull down the files from the outbound directory, convert them to Fidonet format and place them in the outbound directory of my Fido mailer. Happy days. Sampsa On 2 Jul 2009, at 00:21, Sampsa Laine wrote: I am a very very happy bunny: A friendly guy on c.o.v. (called Jan Erik Soderholm) provided me with source code that does pretty much exactly what I want (well listens to a <protname>% thing from mail and does something with it). And it's in C, so I won't be entirely lost. I think I'll be able to knock out something resembling a working bit of code within a pretty short period of time. Get ready to be on Fidonet guys! Sampsa On 1 Jul 2009, at 22:46, Zane H. Healy wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote: I will take a look at this mail_routines documentation - it's not immediately obvious to me how to write the library with the relevant entry points. As others seem to point out it's rather undocumented - you wouldn't have any old code lying around would you Bob? :) I'd recommend asking such questions on comp.os.vms rather than here. Better to hit a much wider audience. Zane

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by sampsa＠mac.com

I am a very very happy bunny: A friendly guy on c.o.v. (called Jan Erik Soderholm) provided me with source code that does pretty much exactly what I want (well listens to a <protname>% thing from mail and does something with it). And it's in C, so I won't be entirely lost. I think I'll be able to knock out something resembling a working bit of code within a pretty short period of time. Get ready to be on Fidonet guys! Sampsa On 1 Jul 2009, at 22:46, Zane H. Healy wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote: I will take a look at this mail_routines documentation - it's not immediately obvious to me how to write the library with the relevant entry points. As others seem to point out it's rather undocumented - you wouldn't have any old code lying around would you Bob? :) I'd recommend asking such questions on comp.os.vms rather than here. Better to hit a much wider audience. Zane

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by sampsa＠mac.com

WIll do, this way I'll stop bugging Bob as well :) Sampsa On 1 Jul 2009, at 22:46, Zane H. Healy wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote: I will take a look at this mail_routines documentation - it's not immediately obvious to me how to write the library with the relevant entry points. As others seem to point out it's rather undocumented - you wouldn't have any old code lying around would you Bob? :) I'd recommend asking such questions on comp.os.vms rather than here. Better to hit a much wider audience. Zane

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by sampsa＠mac.com

Bob, To start off with, if you don't have time to help me with this, I totally understand and will stop bothering you. I've just had an idea - 1. To send mail: All I will do on the VMS side is set up a FIDO% handler that simply writes the message it receives verbatim into a directory. I will then periodically poll this directory via FTP from my main Fido box, run some quick Python scripts to mangle it into Fidonet format and dump it into the appropriate place for my mailer etc to move it onwards. 2. To receive mail: I will configure my mailer on the Fido box to mangle the message (using a Python script again) into something that is easy to import into VMS mail, upload it via FTP to the VMS box where a periodic script looks for these messages and inserts them into MAIL using the published routines that I found in help. It's part 1 that I have no idea where to get started, as the documentation in HELP doesn't seem to offer any clues on how to build this library that ties into VMSMAIL. Any pointers / code would be tremendously gratefully received. Sampsa On 1 Jul 2009, at 18:58, bob at jfcl.com wrote: Got any documentation for this API? $ help mail_routines It's also in the gray (or orange) wall, of course. Ideally I'd want to somehow "hook" into the MAIL application in the All I can say is that there's a documented path for doing this - there's \nothing special about SMTP in this regard. It's called a "foreign transport protocol" or something like that. You need to write a library with the appropriate entry points (this is where the documentation comes in handy), call it FIDO_MAILSHR, and install it. If you do the right stuff, VMSMAIL will recognize the FIDO%"..." address and call your library. Couldn't be easier :-) BOb

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote: I will take a look at this mail_routines documentation - it's not immediately obvious to me how to write the library with the relevant entry points. As others seem to point out it's rather undocumented - you wouldn't have any old code lying around would you Bob? :) I'd recommend asking such questions on comp.os.vms rather than here. Better to hit a much wider audience. Zane

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by sampsa＠mac.com

Hmm, looks doable. I think my skillset might be more targeted towards the Ultrix path, and we could use an emulated PDP-11 Ultrix on HECnet right? I will take a look at this mail_routines documentation - it's not immediately obvious to me how to write the library with the relevant entry points. As others seem to point out it's rather undocumented - you wouldn't have any old code lying around would you Bob? :) Sampsa On 1 Jul 2009, at 18:58, bob at jfcl.com wrote: Got any documentation for this API? $ help mail_routines It's also in the gray (or orange) wall, of course. Ideally I'd want to somehow "hook" into the MAIL application in the All I can say is that there's a documented path for doing this - there's \nothing special about SMTP in this regard. It's called a "foreign transport protocol" or something like that. You need to write a library with the appropriate entry points (this is where the documentation comes in handy), call it FIDO_MAILSHR, and install it. If you do the right stuff, VMSMAIL will recognize the FIDO%"..." address and call your library. Couldn't be easier :-) BOb

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by marc＠bluevine.net

Speaking of PMDF, I'd really like to get my hobbyist-hands on that. I've looked at Process Software's website but was unable to find a link for hobbyists for anything other than Multinet (which I run on MISER). If you go to http://www.process.com/openvms/hobbyist.html and click on "[License Terms and PAKs]", one of the products you can select (after you agree to the license) is PMDF. --Marc

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by dasbooterror＠gmail.com

Wow. nifty. Will need to check it out sometime :) All of your guys talk is making me itch to get some of my Alphas / VAXen running and up on the net On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Sampsa Laine<sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Way ahead of you my friend, log in as user B4BBS of CHIMPY and you get directed to my bulletin board, called B4BBS. It's even got a working Fidonet feed! Oh and ANSI backgammon. I LOVE ANSI backgammon. Sampsa On 1 Jul 2009, at 17:41, Joshua Benedetto wrote: Dial in you say? hmmmmm time for some old school BBS :) On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Sampsa Laine<sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Oh and I'll be moving house soon, upgrading my DSL line to a bonded 40 meg down / 3 meg up dealie. This will give me two spare BT lines that we could use for some kind of dial up retro goodness - I'm open to suggestions... Sampsa On 1 Jul 2009, at 16:22, Sampsa Laine wrote: Which I assume is a good thing? BTW, I'm toying with hacking together a Fidonet - HECnet gateway. How easy is it to get mail in and out of VMS mail using say DCL? Sampsa On 1 Jul 2009, at 16:21, Bob Armstrong wrote: Or am I misunderstanding something? There are multiple routes now between Johnny's world and the Multinet world... Bob

16 years, 2 months

Zaphod down for a few days

by fcoffey＠thrifty.misernet.net

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Marc Chametzky wrote: In all seriousness, I think it'd be easier to write a PMDF channel program and interface it through the PMDF Internet e-mail software (available for hobbyists from Process Software). At least that interface is documented with examples. :-) Speaking of PMDF, I'd really like to get my hobbyist-hands on that. I've looked at Process Software's website but was unable to find a link for hobbyists for anything other than Multinet (which I run on MISER). If nothing else, I'd like PMDF for the updated version of PINE it contains. ;) Anyone have a pointer/link? Fred --- For a list of all the ways technology has failed to improve the quality of life, please press three. A. Kahn

16 years, 2 months

Jump to page:

2025

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

HECnet