I found my notes on OpenVPN & bridging...
http://virtuallyfun.blogspot.com/2008/10/some-fun-networking-with-ms-dos-no…
if it helps any, the only 'static' ip that would be needed would be the server that is bridging its tap/tun to the hecnet.... And even that could be on dyndns...
I'm fishing around for my old Netware 3.12 diskettes to rebuild it for the heck of it today.
speaking of which, in the quest for alternate protocols, why not IPX/SPX?
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:58:59AM -0700, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> At 3:31 PM +0000 11/9/09, Sampsa Laine wrote:
> >I realise that at the moment there aren't many people involved that
> >do not have static IPs but I think as time goes on consumer grade
> >ISPs are going to start cutting back on the amount of IPs a
> >residential customer can have.
> >
> >With this in mind, might there be some mileage in setting up a VPN
> >for HECnet use? This way we would not need to worry about whether we
> >have public static IPs in the future (most VPNs are happy to work
> >with DYNDNS etc) and it would also add a layer of security to HECnet
> >without any changes needed to the bridge etc.
>
> I have to pay for a commercial line, and not simply the low-end
> commercial line, but a higher-grade one in order to get a static IP.
> That's part of why I have such a fast connection now. Honestly
> between the cost of the commercial line and the added electricity use
> it really isn't worth what it's costing me each month to keep this
> going since I don't really have time to mess with such things. :-(
Does it matter if the "client" end of the tunnel has a dynamic IP? If not
we only need a handful of static IPs. Once the new box gets put into place
at colo i was going to setup simh on it. I could be a massive routing hub
if people wanted to connect their tunnels to me.
-brian
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On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:58:59AM -0700, Zane H. Healy wrote:
At 3:31 PM +0000 11/9/09, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I realise that at the moment there aren't many people involved that
do not have static IPs but I think as time goes on consumer grade
ISPs are going to start cutting back on the amount of IPs a
residential customer can have.
With this in mind, might there be some mileage in setting up a VPN
for HECnet use? This way we would not need to worry about whether we
have public static IPs in the future (most VPNs are happy to work
with DYNDNS etc) and it would also add a layer of security to HECnet
without any changes needed to the bridge etc.
I have to pay for a commercial line, and not simply the low-end
commercial line, but a higher-grade one in order to get a static IP.
That's part of why I have such a fast connection now. Honestly
between the cost of the commercial line and the added electricity use
it really isn't worth what it's costing me each month to keep this
going since I don't really have time to mess with such things. :-(
Does it matter if the "client" end of the tunnel has a dynamic IP? If not
we only need a handful of static IPs. Once the new box gets put into place
at colo i was going to setup simh on it. I could be a massive routing hub
if people wanted to connect their tunnels to me.
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
OpenVPN will bridge, as I've done IPX/SPX over it...
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Guys,
I realise that at the moment there aren't many people involved that do not have static IPs but I think as time goes on consumer grade ISPs are going to start cutting back on the amount of IPs a residential customer can have.
With this in mind, might there be some mileage in setting up a VPN for HECnet use? This way we would not need to worry about whether we have public static IPs in the future (most VPNs are happy to work with DYNDNS etc) and it would also add a layer of security to HECnet without any changes needed to the bridge etc.
Sampsa
Guys,
I realise that at the moment there aren't many people involved that do not have static IPs but I think as time goes on consumer grade ISPs are going to start cutting back on the amount of IPs a residential customer can have.
With this in mind, might there be some mileage in setting up a VPN for HECnet use? This way we would not need to worry about whether we have public static IPs in the future (most VPNs are happy to work with DYNDNS etc) and it would also add a layer of security to HECnet without any changes needed to the bridge etc.
Sampsa
At 3:31 PM +0000 11/9/09, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I realise that at the moment there aren't many people involved that do not have static IPs but I think as time goes on consumer grade ISPs are going to start cutting back on the amount of IPs a residential customer can have.
With this in mind, might there be some mileage in setting up a VPN for HECnet use? This way we would not need to worry about whether we have public static IPs in the future (most VPNs are happy to work with DYNDNS etc) and it would also add a layer of security to HECnet without any changes needed to the bridge etc.
I have to pay for a commercial line, and not simply the low-end commercial line, but a higher-grade one in order to get a static IP. That's part of why I have such a fast connection now. Honestly between the cost of the commercial line and the added electricity use it really isn't worth what it's costing me each month to keep this going since I don't really have time to mess with such things. :-(
Zane
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Hiya I didn't see a reply, so I'm sending this again just in case ...
Chrissie
On 04/11/09 07:31, Christine Caulfield wrote:
Hiya,
By "this week" and "next week" do you mean "next week" and "the week
after"? Cos I thought you were coming next week now anyway!!
Well to be helpful ... next week (starting 9th) is fine Tuesday
Wednesday & Friday. The week after (starting 16th) is OK Monday, Tuesday
& Wednesday. The week after that (starting 23rd) is out completely
unless you turn up around 9am in the morning. Weekends I can't do until
... hmm about March, and evenings are complicated and need to be
organised near to the time.
Can fit in with any of that ?
Chrissie
On 03/11/09 23:11, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Christine,
Terribly sorry about this, but turns out the guy I'm meant to drive down
from Leeds can't make it this week - how is next week looking for you?
Sampsa
On 27 Oct 2009, at 15:37, Christine Caulfield wrote:
Oh god, my boiler is the same.
It used to crash every two or three weeks. And the plumber told me how
to refill it and reset it. In the end it turned out to be a very
slightly leaky radiator and it's been fine after that. I'm still
supposed to check the pressure now and then though.
/me goes off to do it while she remembers.
Chrissie
On 27/10/09 15:30, Sampsa Laine wrote:
OK, cool, we'll synchronise schedules with my friend, probably come up
on Wednesday or Friday (Wed ideally, I'm thinking the traffic into
London on Friday might be a lot of Epic Phail).
As for the boiler repair, it was free - only had it installed a few
months back (behind my spare freezer, which isn't so great). Turns out
it just needed a top-up - this involved the guy fiddling with two
dials.
Now the stupid thing cost me thousands AND has a computer already built
in, how freaking hard can it be to make the topping-up thing automatic.
Sampsa
On 27 Oct 2009, at 15:27, Christine Caulfield wrote:
Ahhh No problem.
That week is fine apart from Monday and Thursday.
I hope the boiler doesn't cost too much to fix :S
Chrissie
On 27/10/09 15:09, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Oh crap, so it was - I ACTUALLY mean the week commencing the 9th -
sorry
about the confusion, been dealing with boiler repair guys all day.
Sampsa
On 27 Oct 2009, at 14:27, Christine Caulfield wrote:
Hiya
That's the week I thought you meant anyway! So that's fine.
My address is
39 St James Terrace
Horsforth
Leeds
LS18 5QT
Phone 0113 2288310
Chrissie
On 27/10/09 14:01, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Actually, if you can hold on to them for another week - i.e. the
week
commencing 2 Nov, I'd be able to synchronise giving my friend a
lift to
London with the pick up. If this is a problem, no worries, I'll
come up
on next Thursday.
sampsa
On 27 Oct 2009, at 13:50, Christine Caulfield wrote:
On 27/10/09 12:41, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I'll take the VAXstation and Alpha PWS if you can spare them and
the CD
drives - as for pick up, well I'm between jobs so it's no biggie,
could
come up next week if that works for you.
Yes, that's fine. I work from home so most days during the daytime
will be OK, apart from Wednesday morning. Just give me a day or
so's
notice when you'll be here and I'll be ready.
Chrissie
What did you do to get the extra static IP's... is this a Business Class FiOS
or the standard one...
It's business class... it has to be in order to get the static IP addresses at all (or at least that's what I was told).
As far as getting the extra ones, it was simply provisioned as part of my original installation order. Perhaps back then they didn't charge extra for a block of 5 addresses like they do now. The representative with whom I had spoken recently couldn't explain why I wasn't being charged for the extra addresses.
In any case, I'd like to upgrade to 25/15 Mbps as that's only $10/month more, but I'd also start incurring an extra $20/month charge for the 5 static IP addresses. Worse, if I do that, I was told that I'd lose my existing addresses and be assigned new addresses as part of this process. That's a lot more trouble than it's worth to me at this point.
--Marc
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Marc Chametzky <marc at bluevine.net> wrote:
Here (Poughkeepsie) 20 down/20 up + static IP is $150/month roughly.
I've got Verizon FiOS with 20 down/5 up + 5 static IPs for $100/month.
Apparently they aren't charging me for the extra static IPs, so I'm saving
about $20/month because of that.
It's definitely handy to have a few static IP addresses to use.
In any case, I'm definitely lovin' FiOS. :-)
--Marc
What did you do to get the extra static IP's... is this a Business Class FiOS
or the standard one...
Bill
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Here (Poughkeepsie) 20 down/20 up + static IP is $150/month roughly.
I've got Verizon FiOS with 20 down/5 up + 5 static IPs for $100/month. Apparently they aren't charging me for the extra static IPs, so I'm saving about $20/month because of that.
It's definitely handy to have a few static IP addresses to use.
In any case, I'm definitely lovin' FiOS. :-)
--Marc
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 09:29:44AM -0500, Jason Stevens wrote:
Heh, I live in finance, and Verizon couldn't even run DSL.... They couldn't
even give me DIAL TONE.. And yeah I can see their tower of darkness from
here...
Don't even get me started on Verizon DSL. I'll get dialup before I ever get
Verizon DSL again.
But I've dealt with telcos world wide, and they all have one thing in
common.
they suck.
It's sad, but true.
TW seem to have bumped my upstream from 384k to 768k even though they claim
I am only entitled to 384k. It doesn't seem to be consistent though either
so who knows. :)
-brian
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