It may have been the other way around. There were a number of DECnet applications that started on VMS; Notes is one such. I don't remember Phone anywhere other than VMS -- so I can't be sure about the time line for that one.
paul
On Mar 12, 2011, at 2:15 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Phone is available on RSX-11. So it is safe to assume that the VMS version got ported from RSX-11. Which dates Phone somewhere in the mid 70's, right?
Coming from punched cards and papertape anything on a screen seems modern :-)
Hans
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Verzonden: 11 maart 2011 17:23
Want any hosts added to the phone directory?
No, I actually prefer email. I'm not really into the this whole
chat/texting/instant messaging/tweeting thing. Guess I'm just old
fashioned.
But then I wouldn't be here on this list if I wasn't :-)
Bob
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On 2011-03-12 08:15, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Phone is available on RSX-11. So it is safe to assume that the VMS version got ported from RSX-11. Which dates Phone somewhere in the mid 70's, right?
Coming from punched cards and papertape anything on a screen seems modern :-)
No, I think you got that backwards.
PHONE for RSX only exists for RSX-11M-PLUS, and it's pretty buggy and limited compared to the VMS version. I would suspect the RSX version was just a quick hack to get something phone-like to also run on RSX.
Btw, PHONE also exists for TOPS-20.
Also, I believe DECnet functionality, and PHONE as such, didn't come about until a bit later than VMS got started, so by that time, very little got ported from RSX to VMS. I would suspect PHONE to be around 80 or so. RSX and VMS was pretty much independent development by then.
Johnny
Hans
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Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Network status
Verzonden: 11 maart 2011 17:23
Want any hosts added to the phone directory?
No, I actually prefer email. I'm not really into the this whole
chat/texting/instant messaging/tweeting thing. Guess I'm just old
fashioned.
But then I wouldn't be here on this list if I wasn't :-)
Bob
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Phone is available on RSX-11. So it is safe to assume that the VMS version got ported from RSX-11. Which dates Phone somewhere in the mid 70's, right?
Coming from punched cards and papertape anything on a screen seems modern :-)
Hans
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Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Network status
Verzonden: 11 maart 2011 17:23
Want any hosts added to the phone directory?
No, I actually prefer email. I'm not really into the this whole
chat/texting/instant messaging/tweeting thing. Guess I'm just old
fashioned.
But then I wouldn't be here on this list if I wasn't :-)
Bob
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Maybe it's the web-enabled directory that's the thing.. :)
But it's pretty Web 0.2, nothing fancy.
Sampsa
On 11 Mar 2011, at 23:38, John Wilson wrote:
I love that you can say that about something that's from the 1970s
(right? early 80s at least, and of course there were similar things
on other systems well before PHONE). It's STILL too newfangled!
John Wilson
D Bit
From: "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com>
Want any hosts added to the phone directory?
No, I actually prefer email. I'm not really into the this whole
chat/texting/instant messaging/tweeting thing. Guess I'm just old
fashioned.
I love that you can say that about something that's from the 1970s
(right? early 80s at least, and of course there were similar things
on other systems well before PHONE). It's STILL too newfangled!
John Wilson
D Bit
Want any hosts added to the phone directory?
No, I actually prefer email. I'm not really into the this whole
chat/texting/instant messaging/tweeting thing. Guess I'm just old
fashioned.
But then I wouldn't be here on this list if I wasn't :-)
Bob
Yeah the firewall drops ICMP from the outside interface, sorry.
The address to use is 188.220.63.6
Sampsa
On 11 Mar 2011, at 15:10, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Ok, what's your IP ? The last one I have is 188.220.59.24, and pinging
that from here doesn't get any response.
Bob
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Network status
Pretty sure the problem is at your end - Steve just connected to GORVAX over
MULTINET UDP.
I just bounced the circuit, but no luck.
Sampsa
On 11 Mar 2011, at 15:00, Bob Armstrong wrote:
It's 64.142.52.93, and it's static so it never changes.
BTW, you can always resolve my address as "decnet.jfcl.com".
Bob
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf
Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 6:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Network status
What's your end's IP address again?
Sampsa
On 11 Mar 2011, at 14:51, Bob Armstrong wrote:
My segment happened to be offline for the last couple of hours ....
Looks like LEGATO had crashed (no idea how long ago - I'm afraid I don't
use it much anymore) so I've rebooted it. That'll bring area 2 back
online.
FWIW, I normally have a Multinet link to GORVAX but it's not starting up.
Is your cleaning lady still there, Sampsa?
Bob
