I will do as you suggest. I have a disk in the box itself which is where
the basis for the disk served by SLAVE comes from. So when I got to an
unbootable state I have had to restore the disk.
My good friend Malcolm suggested the following which is what worked with
me without having to autogen:
On 16/09/11 16:55, Malcolm Blunden wrote: Votes:
Why do you run Autogen afterwards? A change of votes doesn't
need any other change that I can think of. How are you changing the
votes? Do you understand the arcane use of CURRENT and ACTIVE by
SYSGEN? To set the votes to zero in a way that will apply at the next
reboot, do
$ MCR SYSGEN
SYSGEN> USE CURRENT
SYSGEN> SET VOTES 0
SYSGEN> WRITE CURRENT
SYSGEN> ^Z
That should fix it. Let me know if it doesn't work!
Malcolm is absolutely right. However, you may need to do an AUTOGEN at some
point in the future and it is good to have done one that has worked before
then so that there are no surprises.
(It should have been possible to get past the joining the cluster problem
by doing a conversational boot and setting VAXCLUSTER to 0 so that the
original problem could have been found and fixed rather than having to
recreate the disk)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
On 17/09/11 19:21, Fred wrote:
Hi all:
I'd like to slap All-in-1 on my VAX. (yes, I'm a masochist)
Anyone have the kit available via HECnet? Or, alternatively you can deposit it on FRUGAL::
Thanks,
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
Fred,
You can find the kit here:
$$ backup/list SLAVE::DECUS$:[DECUS.VAX_MEDIA]A1032.SAV/sav
Listing of save set(s)
Save set: A1032.SAV
Written by: SYSTEM
UIC: [000001,000004]
Date: 17-SEP-2011 20:16:38.34
Command: BACKUP [.A1032...]*.*; [-]A1032.SAV/SAV
Operating system: OpenVMS VAX version V7.3
BACKUP version: V7.3
CPU ID register: 13000202
Node name: _BUBBLE::
Written on: _$255$DKA400:
Block size: 32256
Group size: 10
Buffer count: 8
On 17/09/11 20:22, Peter Coghlan wrote:
It's all working nicely, but this is before an AUTOGEN. If I may I'll
post the contents of the MODPARAMS.DAT and PARAMS.DAT to see if anyone
recognises something bad.
So, how did you get from where you were to where you are now? Have you
recreated the system disk and got back to the point before you did the AUTOGEN?
If so and you suspect AUTOGEN is going to mess things up again, then
I suggest you record the system parameters before and after the AUTOGEN
(AUTOGEN without the shutdown and reboot phases, that is) and compare them.
Something like this:
$ DEFINE /USER SYS$OUTPUT BEFORE.TXT
$ MCR SYSGEN
SHOW /ALL
SHOW /SPECIAL
^Z
$
$ @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN SAVPARAMS SETPARAMS NOFEEDBACK
$
$ DEFINE /USER SYS$OUTPUT AFTER.TXT
$ MCR SYSGEN
SHOW /ALL
SHOW /SPECIAL
^Z
$
$ DIFF BEFORE.TXT AFTER.TXT
$
If everything looks ok, you can then reboot to get the new sysgen parameters
take effect. If not, you have an opportunity to fix things before the
shutdown and reboot makes things much more difficult to fix.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Hi Peter,
I will do as you suggest. I have a disk in the box itself which is where the basis for the disk served by SLAVE comes from. So when I got to an unbootable state I have had to restore the disk.
My good friend Malcolm suggested the following which is what worked with me without having to autogen:
On 16/09/11 16:55, Malcolm Blunden wrote: Votes:
Why do you run Autogen afterwards? A change of votes doesn't need any other change that I can think of. How are you changing the votes? Do you understand the arcane use of CURRENT and ACTIVE by SYSGEN? To set the votes to zero in a way that will apply at the next reboot, do
$ MCR SYSGEN
SYSGEN> USE CURRENT
SYSGEN> SET VOTES 0
SYSGEN> WRITE CURRENT
SYSGEN> ^Z
That should fix it. Let me know if it doesn't work!
- Malcolm.
It's all working nicely, but this is before an AUTOGEN. If I may I'll
post the contents of the MODPARAMS.DAT and PARAMS.DAT to see if anyone
recognises something bad.
So, how did you get from where you were to where you are now? Have you
recreated the system disk and got back to the point before you did the AUTOGEN?
If so and you suspect AUTOGEN is going to mess things up again, then
I suggest you record the system parameters before and after the AUTOGEN
(AUTOGEN without the shutdown and reboot phases, that is) and compare them.
Something like this:
$ DEFINE /USER SYS$OUTPUT BEFORE.TXT
$ MCR SYSGEN
SHOW /ALL
SHOW /SPECIAL
^Z
$
$ @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN SAVPARAMS SETPARAMS NOFEEDBACK
$
$ DEFINE /USER SYS$OUTPUT AFTER.TXT
$ MCR SYSGEN
SHOW /ALL
SHOW /SPECIAL
^Z
$
$ DIFF BEFORE.TXT AFTER.TXT
$
If everything looks ok, you can then reboot to get the new sysgen parameters
take effect. If not, you have an opportunity to fix things before the
shutdown and reboot makes things much more difficult to fix.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Speaking of masochism, I've released a pre-built VM with a very alpha version of my BBS, pyffle:
Pyffle BBS: http://www.uuhec.net/pyffle-bbs/
Demo version running: telnet://pyffle.sampsa.com
``
VM download (pretty big, for the seriously into UUUP etc enthusiastic): http://pyffle.org/dev_pyffle_v0.1_masochist_edition.zip
Sampsa
On 17 Sep 2011, at 19:22, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 17/09/11 19:21, Fred wrote:
Hi all:
I'd like to slap All-in-1 on my VAX. (yes, I'm a masochist)
Anyone have the kit available via HECnet? Or, alternatively you can deposit it on FRUGAL::
Thanks,
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
ALLIN1 is fun!
As you say, for masochists.
I have it on SLAVE, I'll move it so it's available from the default account...
Well,
Installing OpenVMS on a VAXstation 4000/60 has taken me all afternoon on and off...
I almost gave up. I kept getting 'medium has gone offline' errors with the first hard drive I tried, so I swapped it for another drive, same issue, thought the CDROM must be dodgy, swapped that out, same problem, eventually went back to the original hard drive (which was ZEN's page/swap drive, so easily recreated) and everything is fine. So that is *two* hard drives exhibiting the same problem. Bought from the same ebayer, they were original DEC drives.
So sometimes perseverance does pay off.
I was also getting a system board error to do with NVRAM, so I swapped out the TOY chip, still got the error first reboot, but after that it was fine.
Mark.
On 17/09/11 19:21, Fred wrote:
Hi all:
I'd like to slap All-in-1 on my VAX. (yes, I'm a masochist)
Anyone have the kit available via HECnet? Or, alternatively you can deposit it on FRUGAL::
Thanks,
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
ALLIN1 is fun!
As you say, for masochists.
I have it on SLAVE, I'll move it so it's available from the default account...
Hi all:
I'd like to slap All-in-1 on my VAX. (yes, I'm a masochist)
Anyone have the kit available via HECnet? Or, alternatively you can deposit it on FRUGAL::
Thanks,
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
On 17/09/11 18:39, Sampsa Laine wrote:
So what would be your suggestion I do?
Sampsa
On 17 Sep 2011, at 18:30, Mark Wickens wrote:
It's all working nicely, but this is before an AUTOGEN. If I may I'll post the contents of the MODPARAMS.DAT and PARAMS.DAT to see if anyone recognises something bad.
Regards, Mark.
Sorry Sampsa, you've got the wrong end of the stick! I'm still talking about my system.
If you want me to have a dig around yours I'd be happy to oblige,
Do I still have an account on CHIMPY?
Mark.
