So Dan...
With Area 51, you're not down... just stealth... :-)
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Dan Williams
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:25 AM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
Hi,
Area 51.
Dan
On 31 Dec 2011, at 08:21, "hvlems at zonnet.nl" <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Dan, what area do you run?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:08:24
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
On 28 December 2011 01:47, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
1 - Area 2, LEGATO:: (2.1)
2 - bridge and 5 active tunnels
3 - decnet.jfcl.com (64.142.52.93)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se:4711)
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150
tcp-0-8 - GORVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-19 - SG1:: 69.21.253.230
tcp-0-54 - CEIRE:: decnet.beyondthepale.ie
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still
around??)
PDXVAX:: (Zane Healy)
PETEY:: (Dan Williams)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
SELENE:: (Thierry Dussuet)
MISER:: (Fred Coffey) (Ok, Fred is still active but we
decided we
didn't need this tunnel)
Bob
Hi,
I am still around but at the moment do not have any machines running.
One of my new years resolutions will be to get them permenantly
connected again. I have more machines now but a lack of space and
time.
I don't what ip address you have for me, but it is 90.193.203.113. I
will try and get them up and running next week and check hostnames
etc.
Dan
Hi,
I was using a Multinet tunnel to connect. I had to downsize my
collection a few years back and cannot remember which machine was the
router. Once I get the machines powered up I will find out. I know
that I no longer have Petey which was the machine which is the machine
Bob has down on his list.
Dan
On 31 December 2011 08:28, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Good morning Dan, what is the name of your area router?
Do you use Johnny's bridge program or something else?
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:25:01
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
Hi,
Area 51.
Dan
On 31 Dec 2011, at 08:21, "hvlems at zonnet.nl" <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Dan, what area do you run?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:08:24
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
On 28 December 2011 01:47, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
1 - Area 2, LEGATO:: (2.1)
2 - bridge and 5 active tunnels
3 - decnet.jfcl.com (64.142.52.93)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se:4711)
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150
tcp-0-8 - GORVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-19 - SG1:: 69.21.253.230
tcp-0-54 - CEIRE:: decnet.beyondthepale.ie
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still around??)
PDXVAX:: (Zane Healy)
PETEY:: (Dan Williams)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
SELENE:: (Thierry Dussuet)
MISER:: (Fred Coffey) (Ok, Fred is still active but we decided we
didn't need this tunnel)
Bob
Hi,
I am still around but at the moment do not have any machines running.
One of my new years resolutions will be to get them permenantly
connected again. I have more machines now but a lack of space and
time.
I don't what ip address you have for me, but it is 90.193.203.113. I
will try and get them up and running next week and check hostnames
etc.
Dan
Good morning Dan, what is the name of your area router?
Do you use Johnny's bridge program or something else?
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:25:01
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
Hi,
Area 51.
Dan
On 31 Dec 2011, at 08:21, "hvlems at zonnet.nl" <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Dan, what area do you run?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:08:24
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
On 28 December 2011 01:47, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
1 - Area 2, LEGATO:: (2.1)
2 - bridge and 5 active tunnels
3 - decnet.jfcl.com (64.142.52.93)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se:4711)
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150
tcp-0-8 - GORVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-19 - SG1:: 69.21.253.230
tcp-0-54 - CEIRE:: decnet.beyondthepale.ie
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still around??)
PDXVAX:: (Zane Healy)
PETEY:: (Dan Williams)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
SELENE:: (Thierry Dussuet)
MISER:: (Fred Coffey) (Ok, Fred is still active but we decided we
didn't need this tunnel)
Bob
Hi,
I am still around but at the moment do not have any machines running.
One of my new years resolutions will be to get them permenantly
connected again. I have more machines now but a lack of space and
time.
I don't what ip address you have for me, but it is 90.193.203.113. I
will try and get them up and running next week and check hostnames
etc.
Dan
Hi,
Area 51.
Dan
On 31 Dec 2011, at 08:21, "hvlems at zonnet.nl" <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Dan, what area do you run?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:08:24
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
On 28 December 2011 01:47, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
1 - Area 2, LEGATO:: (2.1)
2 - bridge and 5 active tunnels
3 - decnet.jfcl.com (64.142.52.93)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se:4711)
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150
tcp-0-8 - GORVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-19 - SG1:: 69.21.253.230
tcp-0-54 - CEIRE:: decnet.beyondthepale.ie
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still around??)
PDXVAX:: (Zane Healy)
PETEY:: (Dan Williams)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
SELENE:: (Thierry Dussuet)
MISER:: (Fred Coffey) (Ok, Fred is still active but we decided we
didn't need this tunnel)
Bob
Hi,
I am still around but at the moment do not have any machines running.
One of my new years resolutions will be to get them permenantly
connected again. I have more machines now but a lack of space and
time.
I don't what ip address you have for me, but it is 90.193.203.113. I
will try and get them up and running next week and check hostnames
etc.
Dan
Dan, what area do you run?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:08:24
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
On 28 December 2011 01:47, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
1 - Area 2, LEGATO:: (2.1)
2 - bridge and 5 active tunnels
3 - decnet.jfcl.com (64.142.52.93)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se:4711)
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150
tcp-0-8 - GORVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-19 - SG1:: 69.21.253.230
tcp-0-54 - CEIRE:: decnet.beyondthepale.ie
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still around??)
PDXVAX:: (Zane Healy)
PETEY:: (Dan Williams)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
SELENE:: (Thierry Dussuet)
MISER:: (Fred Coffey) (Ok, Fred is still active but we decided we
didn't need this tunnel)
Bob
Hi,
I am still around but at the moment do not have any machines running.
One of my new years resolutions will be to get them permenantly
connected again. I have more machines now but a lack of space and
time.
I don't what ip address you have for me, but it is 90.193.203.113. I
will try and get them up and running next week and check hostnames
etc.
Dan
On 28 December 2011 01:47, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
1 - Area 2, LEGATO:: (2.1)
2 - bridge and 5 active tunnels
3 - decnet.jfcl.com (64.142.52.93)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se:4711)
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150
tcp-0-8 - GORVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-19 - SG1:: 69.21.253.230
tcp-0-54 - CEIRE:: decnet.beyondthepale.ie
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still around??)
PDXVAX:: (Zane Healy)
PETEY:: (Dan Williams)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
SELENE:: (Thierry Dussuet)
MISER:: (Fred Coffey) (Ok, Fred is still active but we decided we
didn't need this tunnel)
Bob
Hi,
I am still around but at the moment do not have any machines running.
One of my new years resolutions will be to get them permenantly
connected again. I have more machines now but a lack of space and
time.
I don't what ip address you have for me, but it is 90.193.203.113. I
will try and get them up and running next week and check hostnames
etc.
Dan
Greg,
The issue you will run into is that in the case of the bridge or even Multinet the other end has no way of knowing that your IP address has changed. A bit of DCL trickery is used on SG1:: to deal with this for Multinet. As a result, SG1:: supports dynamic-DNS (remote) links. It does a "MULTINET NSLOOKUP" of the remote periodically (this is configurable), compares it to what it has in a private database, and "fixes" it if it has to. After that it reestablishes the link. Each dynamic IP address MUST use a dynamic-DNS provider or SG1:: will not be able to do the lookup.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 9:28 PM
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs - Area 19 revised
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2011-12-30 17.28, Gregg Levine wrote:
Incidentally Johnny Billquist, have we ever worked out a reasonable
method of assigning a dynamic IP address to be reachable by the
efforts of the network? I know it works for websites.....
Uh? Not sure what you mean?
Johnny
Hello!
Okay please visit http://www.gregg.levine.name and that site lives
here, and resides on the Linux machine that Fred and were I discussing
earlier today. It is connected to the Internet via a router and a DSL
device. That device gets an IP address and it tells the router, both
are created dynamically via the PPPoE functions as assigned by the
service provider who is Megapath.
To have my system serve my webpages rather then have a hosting entity
do that I would need to, (and have done so) set up (or even arrange)
an account with any of the dynamic DNS service providers. I chose DDNS
to do so, and they went along with my choice of host name and offered
many suggestions on the methods of confirming that the hostname is
registered and is working. I chose to allow my router do one, and the
computer runs a program every few days to do the other one.
That's what I was getting at. Since this is a commercial router as
offered by Cisco, I'm not sure if it understands how to route the
stuff that's used for communications via the connected systems here.
I am of course looking at other methods to communicate with everything
out there besides the others people use. Speaking (or writing)
hypothetically, would a copy of Pathworks/32 work to communicate with
the others out there?
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2011-12-30 17.28, Gregg Levine wrote:
Incidentally Johnny Billquist, have we ever worked out a reasonable
method of assigning a dynamic IP address to be reachable by the
efforts of the network? I know it works for websites.....
Uh? Not sure what you mean?
Johnny
Hello!
Okay please visit http://www.gregg.levine.name and that site lives
here, and resides on the Linux machine that Fred and were I discussing
earlier today. It is connected to the Internet via a router and a DSL
device. That device gets an IP address and it tells the router, both
are created dynamically via the PPPoE functions as assigned by the
service provider who is Megapath.
To have my system serve my webpages rather then have a hosting entity
do that I would need to, (and have done so) set up (or even arrange)
an account with any of the dynamic DNS service providers. I chose DDNS
to do so, and they went along with my choice of host name and offered
many suggestions on the methods of confirming that the hostname is
registered and is working. I chose to allow my router do one, and the
computer runs a program every few days to do the other one.
That's what I was getting at. Since this is a commercial router as
offered by Cisco, I'm not sure if it understands how to route the
stuff that's used for communications via the connected systems here.
I am of course looking at other methods to communicate with everything
out there besides the others people use. Speaking (or writing)
hypothetically, would a copy of Pathworks/32 work to communicate with
the others out there?
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Johnny,
Look at LEGATO::INFO.TXT. Bob wrote up the definiition and includes it
within his copy of the file.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 9:11 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Re: Topology 28-Dec-2011
On 2011-12-31 02.59, Robert Armstrong wrote:
The one "problem" with it, is that machines that aren't online also
can't be queried for that file, so it might be a bit limited from
that
point of view.
That's why the file format allows it to contain information about
multiple machines. You'd list all your machines, powered up or not, in
the single INFO.TXT on your gateway machine.
Cool. I might have forgotten some details. Looking at MIM::INFO.TXT, I
realize that it does mention the machine name, but I don't know for sure
if the file on MIM:: follows whatever format INFO.TXT should be in
nowadays.
We should try to get a formal definition for that file in writing
somewhere.
Johnny
On 2011-12-31 02.59, Robert Armstrong wrote:
The one "problem" with it, is that machines that aren't online also
can't be queried for that file, so it might be a bit limited from that
point of view.
That's why the file format allows it to contain information about multiple machines. You'd list all your machines, powered up or not, in the single INFO.TXT on your gateway machine.
Cool. I might have forgotten some details. Looking at MIM::INFO.TXT, I realize that it does mention the machine name, but I don't know for sure if the file on MIM:: follows whatever format INFO.TXT should be in nowadays.
We should try to get a formal definition for that file in writing somewhere.
Johnny
