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by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Real hardware is priceless: a couple of months ago I was given a DS10 and a DS20E for free. The only disadvantages I feel are floorspace and power usage. Difficult to price an emulator, but 50 is about as much as I'd pay. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:29:36 To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Alpha emulation Wouldn't be worth more than about $50 (CAD) to me. Anything more than the used price for the real hardware ($200) is out to lunch. Ian On 2012-04-04, at 2:21 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, I've just been talking to the guys who make the FreeAXP product about possible hobbyist pricing for their DS10 and other commercial products - they seemed to like what we're doing with HECnet and asked what I thought was a fair price for a DS10 emulator, so I figured I'd ask here. Basically, I think we can get a better deal if a bunch of us buy a copy. Their list price for the DS10 version is USD 6,000 which of course is crazy as we can get a lot of hardware for that kind of money. So I guess my questions are these: 1. How many of you are interested in a commercial Alpha emulator at hobbyist pricing? 2. What are we willing to pay for say an emulated DS10? Sampsa PS: The chap mentioned that hecnet.eu has been down for a while (so he's clearly aware of us) - any ideas when/if it's coming back up? --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=4988414E7E9C11E19…

13 years, 2 months

Alpha emulation

by sampsa＠mac.com

Yup, I was thinking about 50-100 GBP myself - their software is protected with a dongle (urgh) so I think there might be some underlying costs there. Sampsa On 5 Apr 2012, at 00:29, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Wouldn't be worth more than about $50 (CAD) to me. Anything more than the used price for the real hardware ($200) is out to lunch. Ian

13 years, 2 months

Alpha emulation

by ian＠platinum.net

Wouldn't be worth more than about $50 (CAD) to me. Anything more than the used price for the real hardware ($200) is out to lunch. Ian On 2012-04-04, at 2:21 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, I've just been talking to the guys who make the FreeAXP product about possible hobbyist pricing for their DS10 and other commercial products - they seemed to like what we're doing with HECnet and asked what I thought was a fair price for a DS10 emulator, so I figured I'd ask here. Basically, I think we can get a better deal if a bunch of us buy a copy. Their list price for the DS10 version is USD 6,000 which of course is crazy as we can get a lot of hardware for that kind of money. So I guess my questions are these: 1. How many of you are interested in a commercial Alpha emulator at hobbyist pricing? 2. What are we willing to pay for say an emulated DS10? Sampsa PS: The chap mentioned that hecnet.eu has been down for a while (so he's clearly aware of us) - any ideas when/if it's coming back up? --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=4988414E7E9C11E19…

13 years, 2 months

Alpha emulation

by sampsa＠mac.com

Guys, I've just been talking to the guys who make the FreeAXP product about possible hobbyist pricing for their DS10 and other commercial products - they seemed to like what we're doing with HECnet and asked what I thought was a fair price for a DS10 emulator, so I figured I'd ask here. Basically, I think we can get a better deal if a bunch of us buy a copy. Their list price for the DS10 version is USD 6,000 which of course is crazy as we can get a lot of hardware for that kind of money. So I guess my questions are these: 1. How many of you are interested in a commercial Alpha emulator at hobbyist pricing? 2. What are we willing to pay for say an emulated DS10? Sampsa PS: The chap mentioned that hecnet.eu has been down for a while (so he's clearly aware of us) - any ideas when/if it's coming back up?

13 years, 2 months

4000/90 help needed

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

Oooohhh, awesome, thanks! Now to get to grinding. :-D -brian On 3/28/2012 5:38 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:34:07AM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: I'm working with getting the 4000/90 up and running and I was wondering if anyone had seen this behavior before. Upon initial power up all the diag lights are lit and nothing ever happens. If I quickly flip the power switch off and on it then comes up normally. This happens every time it's powered on cold. Once it's on as long as I only ever quickly flick the power switch off and on it works fine. Thoughts? Incidentally, Holm Tilfe over att cctech@ had a similar problem. His problem description: The Machine doesn't start properly if it is switched on, the LEDs are all stuck on (0xff). If I switch it off then and on again in a short time, it starts up properly, is doing the diagnostics and tries to boot an (defective?) NetBSD 1.1 that is loading the kernel but is getting then in a ?54 RETRY loop. His solution was as follows: Ok, answering myself: Yes this error is already known, found a thread in comp.sys.dec. The cause ist an empty lithium cell in the DS1287A RTC. Used a proxxon grindng tool and grinded the IC housing of, replaced the empty cell (1,07V) with an soldered on CR2016. Works now. The RTC was unable to remember the "set bootdev dka0" over a powercycle. Hope it helps, Pontus

13 years, 2 months

4000/90 help needed

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:34:07AM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: I'm working with getting the 4000/90 up and running and I was wondering if anyone had seen this behavior before. Upon initial power up all the diag lights are lit and nothing ever happens. If I quickly flip the power switch off and on it then comes up normally. This happens every time it's powered on cold. Once it's on as long as I only ever quickly flick the power switch off and on it works fine. Thoughts? Incidentally, Holm Tilfe over att cctech@ had a similar problem. His problem description: The Machine doesn't start properly if it is switched on, the LEDs are all stuck on (0xff). If I switch it off then and on again in a short time, it starts up properly, is doing the diagnostics and tries to boot an (defective?) NetBSD 1.1 that is loading the kernel but is getting then in a ?54 RETRY loop. His solution was as follows: Ok, answering myself: Yes this error is already known, found a thread in comp.sys.dec. The cause ist an empty lithium cell in the DS1287A RTC. Used a proxxon grindng tool and grinded the IC housing of, replaced the empty cell (1,07V) with an soldered on CR2016. Works now. The RTC was unable to remember the "set bootdev dka0" over a powercycle. Hope it helps, Pontus

13 years, 2 months

4000/90 help needed

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

I'm working with getting the 4000/90 up and running and I was wondering if anyone had seen this behavior before. Upon initial power up all the diag lights are lit and nothing ever happens. If I quickly flip the power switch off and on it then comes up normally. This happens every time it's powered on cold. Once it's on as long as I only ever quickly flick the power switch off and on it works fine. Thoughts? -brian

13 years, 2 months

Eastern US HECnet hub will be down this Friday

by rok.vidmar＠gmail.com

You should NEVER edit those files directly. That can screw the system in a most unpleasant way. Looks like you couldn't make a decent backup copy of those files ... -- Regards, Rok

13 years, 3 months

Eastern US HECnet hub will be down this Friday

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 21/03/12 22:09, Steve Davidson wrote: You should NEVER edit those files directly. That can screw the system in a most unpleasant way. -Steve I resemble that comment! Mark.

13 years, 3 months

Eastern US HECnet hub will be down this Friday

by jeep＠scshome.net

You should NEVER edit those files directly. That can screw the system in a most unpleasant way. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Rok Vidmar Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 17:38 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Eastern US HECnet hub will be down this Friday FWIW, you cannot actually enter "bridge.declab.net" into Multinet - it only accepts a dotted IP address. Not in mul conf/decnet/connect, but you can in multinet set/decnet command in MULTINET:DECNET-CIRCUITS.COM. It will stay there unles you touch the interface again. -- Regards, Rok

13 years, 3 months

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