On 04/30/2012 03:29 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I even have automated populating the DECnet permanent nodename database
on MIM from the Datatrieve database. So when I get updates, I just
insert them into Datatrieve, and then kick off the updating process.
Excellent.
Hmm ok. Do you know if the RSX distribution of DTR-11 run under
RSTS/E's RSX RTS? I don't have an operational RSX-11 system here. (yet)
I very much doubt it would work. DTR is playing some pretty low level
tricks, including having multiple tasks and interprocess communication
under RSX.
Yuck.
And unfortunately I don't have any leads to DTR-11 for RSTS/E. I assume
it did exist?
I'm not certain; I've never worked with it. I'm willing to bet that
it did, though.
Oh ok, thank you. I'd love to have it just as a text file that I can
massage into my various machines here. One line per entry would be best
for me. Is that doable on your end without any trouble?
Might already have that (more or less).
MIM::US:[DECNET]FIX.CMD have all the nodes except MIM herself. One per
line, in a format that is usable for NCP (or CFE in RSX).
Ok. Slight chicken/egg problem, though...what's the node address of MIM?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2012-04-30 21:19, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 04/30/2012 02:57 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yes! Also, is there a "master" node list anywhere?
Node list, as in which nodes exist? Not really, the closest is the
nodename database on MIM. While noone is required, or forced to tell me,
I gently ask that people submit nodenames and numbers to me, and I keep
MIM up to date. People can then copy the nodenames from MIM.
Ok. I will forward my current list along in a moment.
Please do. :-)
I also have the nodename database in a Datatrieve-11 database.
Oh that's cool. :-)
I even have automated populating the DECnet permanent nodename database on MIM from the Datatrieve database. So when I get updates, I just insert them into Datatrieve, and then kick off the updating process.
It seems
there might be some incompatibilities between DTR-11 and DTR-32, so I'm
not sure if you can manage access from a VMS box (or anything else).
Remote DTR access works fine from another RSX box atleast.
Hmm ok. Do you know if the RSX distribution of DTR-11 run under
RSTS/E's RSX RTS? I don't have an operational RSX-11 system here. (yet)
I very much doubt it would work. DTR is playing some pretty low level tricks, including having multiple tasks and interprocess communication under RSX.
And unfortunately I don't have any leads to DTR-11 for RSTS/E. I assume it did exist?
If you need the data in some specific format, I can probably produce
that for you.
Oh ok, thank you. I'd love to have it just as a text file that I can
massage into my various machines here. One line per entry would be best
for me. Is that doable on your end without any trouble?
Might already have that (more or less).
MIM::US:[DECNET]FIX.CMD have all the nodes except MIM herself. One per line, in a format that is usable for NCP (or CFE in RSX).
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
About once a week I type MC NCP COPY KNOWN NODES FROM MIM TO BOTH on AR44 (44.1023) and the same with OSMIUM as target.
AR44 is always up, linux permitting (it has a tendency to fall asleep on a laptop) though a tad slow perhaps.
Hans
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] GRE tunnel working!
Verzonden: 30 april 2012 20:51
On 04/30/2012 09:16 AM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
My memory is short, but someone made a map of HECnet, they are better
off to answer this question, I just deliver the milk.
Speaking of said map. It's time to update it with GRE tunnels. :)
Yes! Also, is there a "master" node list anywhere?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 04/30/2012 02:57 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yes! Also, is there a "master" node list anywhere?
Node list, as in which nodes exist? Not really, the closest is the
nodename database on MIM. While noone is required, or forced to tell me,
I gently ask that people submit nodenames and numbers to me, and I keep
MIM up to date. People can then copy the nodenames from MIM.
Ok. I will forward my current list along in a moment.
I also have the nodename database in a Datatrieve-11 database.
Oh that's cool. :-)
It seems
there might be some incompatibilities between DTR-11 and DTR-32, so I'm
not sure if you can manage access from a VMS box (or anything else).
Remote DTR access works fine from another RSX box atleast.
Hmm ok. Do you know if the RSX distribution of DTR-11 run under
RSTS/E's RSX RTS? I don't have an operational RSX-11 system here. (yet)
If you need the data in some specific format, I can probably produce
that for you.
Oh ok, thank you. I'd love to have it just as a text file that I can
massage into my various machines here. One line per entry would be best
for me. Is that doable on your end without any trouble?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2012-04-30 18:46, Peter Lothberg wrote:
On 2012-04-30 12.54, Peter Lothberg wrote:
bart#show decnet nei
Net Node Interface MAC address Flags
0 59.59 Tunnel1 0000.0000.0000 A
0 61.1 Tunnel0 0000.0000.0000 A
0 52.4 FastEthernet0/0.2 aa00.0400.04d0
Tunnel2 (the one to sweden) hasn't come up yet, just FYI.
My error...
Router#sh decnet ne
Net Node Interface MAC address Flags
0 52.1 Tunnel4000 0000.0000.0000 A
0 59.57 Tunnel2000 0000.0000.0000 V
0 59.58 Ethernet0 aa00.0400.3aec V A
0 59.59 Tunnel3000 0000.0000.0000 V A
Anyone else that wan't to join the routed DECnet over GRE tunnel
network?
If we only had a Cisco box... ;-)
I can fix that!
That would be nice. Needed in Uppsala then, with DECnet, and then we'll happily also act as a hub for that.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
What is your IP address? Mine are on the HECnet mailinglinst.
My 7206VXR's external-facing interface is 50.73.179.1.
Hum.. That is on a network that refuced to peer with me:
MM>!traceroute 50.73.179.1
traceroute to 50.73.179.1 (50.73.179.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 R29A-GW.Stupi.SE (192.108.198.254) 0.260 ms 0.245 ms 0.287 ms
2 R29BFR-GE-2-0-6-GW.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.150) 0.435 ms !H * 0.303 ms !H
But it will work from the box in Reston..
interface Tunnel4001
no ip address
ip broadcast-address 0.0.0.0
decnet cost 10
tunnel source 199.0.131.2
tunnel destination 50.73.179.1
-P
On 04/29/2012 10:41 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote:
I have three cisco boxes for my DECnet and would be happy to do a
GRE tunnel..
Peter! It's great to see you in this gang. It has been a long time;
I hope you're doing well. Drop me a note sometime and let me know
what's been going on over there.
I live in Sunnyvale, CA since 1997... -:)
I had heard something about that, but I didn't know you were still there.
So, as long as the tunnels are PTP between routers it will do DECnet
routing, and the metric is cost and hops (look at a ethnernet routing
vector it's indexed with node number and has cost,hop in 16 bits..)
In short, do nothing, set metric to 10 all all over the place and it
will just work.
Oh ok, thank you for the clarification. This is great stuff!
What is your IP address? Mine are on the HECnet mailinglinst.
My 7206VXR's external-facing interface is 50.73.179.1.
-P w4kel/sm4kel
Hey, I never knew you were a ham! Very cool!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2012-04-30 20:51, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 04/30/2012 09:16 AM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
My memory is short, but someone made a map of HECnet, they are better
off to answer this question, I just deliver the milk.
Speaking of said map. It's time to update it with GRE tunnels. :)
Yes! Also, is there a "master" node list anywhere?
Node list, as in which nodes exist? Not really, the closest is the nodename database on MIM. While noone is required, or forced to tell me, I gently ask that people submit nodenames and numbers to me, and I keep MIM up to date. People can then copy the nodenames from MIM.
I also have the nodename database in a Datatrieve-11 database. It seems there might be some incompatibilities between DTR-11 and DTR-32, so I'm not sure if you can manage access from a VMS box (or anything else). Remote DTR access works fine from another RSX box atleast.
If you need the data in some specific format, I can probably produce that for you.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 04/30/2012 09:16 AM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
My memory is short, but someone made a map of HECnet, they are better
off to answer this question, I just deliver the milk.
Speaking of said map. It's time to update it with GRE tunnels. :)
Yes! Also, is there a "master" node list anywhere?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 04/30/2012 12:06 PM, Peter Coghlan wrote:
Right now, the only Cisco gear I have on hand seems to be a 1600 that a friend
insisted I take off his hands and an IGS :-)
I can't remember the passwords for either...
They're trivially easy to crack if you have console access. Drop me a
note if you want to work on those and have trouble finding the
appropriate info.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
