Wow, that's odd. I have no idea why that'd be happening.
In this case thay think the own you and you get the cnnectivity that
they decide you should have, with the performance they decide....
(as they are only a local US network with a captive audience...)
Excellent, thank you! I have routes for area 59 via Reston.
Cool.. set host sol::
$in decnet
$in arpanet
-Peter
By the way, I hope you know that VMS can copy the nodename database
directly from another machine without you having to hack files on your
own, if that is the reason why you asked for a file...
....that's why it's VMSnet.. (Cterm sends QIO calls...)
$opr
OPR>ent ncp
NCP>?
ENTER EXIT PUSH RETURN TAKE WAIT
CANCEL CLEAR DEFINE DUMP HELP LIST LOAD
LOOP PURGE SET SHOW TELL TRIGGER ZERO
$
$in ver
** SC-40 Sol.Stupi.SE **, TOPS-20 Monitor 7(21733)
TOPS-20 Command processor 7(4453)-3
Program is OPR, version is 6(7134)
--P
Ah dear. That'll be the ones then. Rather loud paddle-blowers in them as
I recall.
Think I have some breeding in a dusty corner somewhere.
Al.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Peter Coghlan
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012 9:08 AM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] GRE tunnel working!
Hi Peter.. when is this the IGS's that have a 16Mhz m68020 in them? I
think I've got one or two (Although I've not dug that deep in over a
decade).
At startup, it says:
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3000 Software (IGS-BPRX), Version 10.0(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1994 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 25-Oct-94 19:01 by dougs
cisco IGS (68020) processor (revision A) with 4092K/512K bytes of
memory.
I can't find any reference to the processor speed anywhere.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
On 04/29/2012 04:14 AM, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
DECnet must have been around at least from 1993, because the
DECbrouter90's, which were practically Cisco routers in a DEChub90
module, were introduced in 1993. And they used IOS.
Did you mean DECnet support in IOS, or DECnet itself? DECnet itself
dates to the mid-1970s.
What I haven't found out is when the IP tunnels were introduced in the
IOS. It seems to be in IOS 11.2. So it is included in all recent
versions, but the Cisco 2500's have limited flash and RAM capabilites.
Therefore the recent IOS's cannot be used with older hardware. I suppose
the IOS 11.2 should be sufficient for tunneling DECnet over IP.
I'll bet much older releases than that would support this.
I have to check which versions I have on my 2500's. Most probably they
have an IP-only version of the IOS. I bought the 2500's cheap from a
local broker a few years ago.
I've got lots of IOS images if needed. Let me know if I can help.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 04/30/2012 08:07 PM, Peter Coghlan wrote:
Hmm, that's not good. If memory serves, in an IGS, IOS resides in a
bank of EPROMs and the memory is in the form of 30-pin SIMMs. I'd try
re-seating those and see how far you get.
I've reseated the SIMMs. I'll test for a while and see how it behaves now.
Good luck!
The 1600 does not have DECnet capable software.
Perhaps Brian can help out here.
Perhaps. The 1600 doesn't look or sound as impressive as the IGS though :-)
Indeed. ;) The IGS became the 3000, which then sorta morphed into the
68030-based 2500 platform. We all know how long those little buggers
lasted. I still see them in service from time to time today! Damn good
hardware. Simple and bulletproof.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 15:54
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Area 61 node list
On 2012-04-30 21:46, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-04-30 21:38, Dave McGuire wrote:
Here is my current node list. AXPEE is up 24/7. Last night
I finished
unloaded a truck full of stuff from my old house,
including lots of
VAXen, so there will likely be some more coming up soon.
Node Name System
------------------------------------------------------------------
61.1 GW Cisco 7206VXR, IOS 12.3
61.2 AXPEE DS10L, 466MHz, 1GB, 120GB, VMS 8.3
61.3 EBOLA VAX 4000/700A, 128MB, 4GB, VMS 7.3
61.4 MECCA PDP-11/53, RSTS/E v10.1
61.5 FANG PDP-11/70, RSTS/E v10.1
61.50 RA Linux
Gothca.
Another file you might want to look at, if you prefer, would be
MIM::US:[DECNET]NODENAMES.DAT. The format should be obvious if you
check either that, or FIX.CMD
By the way, I hope you know that VMS can copy the nodename
database directly from another machine without you having to
hack files on your own, if that is the reason why you asked
for a file...
Assuming you are running Phase IV, just do:
"MCR NCP COPY KNOWN NODES FROM MIM TO BOTH"
and you are set.
replace MIM with 1.13, if you don't have MIM in your database already.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Be careful using "MCR NCP COPY KNOWN NODES FROM MIM TO BOTH". If you
have a cluster you may delete important records.
-Steve
Hmm, that's not good. If memory serves, in an IGS, IOS resides in a
bank of EPROMs and the memory is in the form of 30-pin SIMMs. I'd try
re-seating those and see how far you get.
I've reseated the SIMMs. I'll test for a while and see how it behaves now.
The 1600 does not have DECnet capable software.
Perhaps Brian can help out here.
Perhaps. The 1600 doesn't look or sound as impressive as the IGS though :-)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Hi Peter.. when is this the IGS's that have a 16Mhz m68020 in them? I
think I've got one or two (Although I've not dug that deep in over a
decade).
At startup, it says:
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3000 Software (IGS-BPRX), Version 10.0(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1994 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 25-Oct-94 19:01 by dougs
cisco IGS (68020) processor (revision A) with 4092K/512K bytes of memory.
I can't find any reference to the processor speed anywhere.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Another listmember has given me the required incantations.
It was looking good for the IGS for a while. To my surprise, it turned
out to
have DECnet capable software. Unfortunately, it was too good to last.
This
machine is now looking a bit sick. It keeps rebooting and not getting
past
the first two lines of the startup banner.
The 1600 does not have DECnet capable software.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Hi Peter.. when is this the IGS's that have a 16Mhz m68020 in them? I
think I've got one or two (Although I've not dug that deep in over a
decade).
Al.
On 2012-04-30 22:44, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 04/30/2012 03:54 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Here is my current node list. AXPEE is up 24/7. Last night I
finished unloaded a truck full of stuff from my old house, including
lots of VAXen, so there will likely be some more coming up soon.
Node Name System
------------------------------------------------------------------
61.1 GW Cisco 7206VXR, IOS 12.3
61.2 AXPEE DS10L, 466MHz, 1GB, 120GB, VMS 8.3
61.3 EBOLA VAX 4000/700A, 128MB, 4GB, VMS 7.3
61.4 MECCA PDP-11/53, RSTS/E v10.1
61.5 FANG PDP-11/70, RSTS/E v10.1
61.50 RA Linux
Gothca.
By the way, I know "GW" is a pretty generic name; you can leave that
out if you'd like. It's just my router here.
One convention that I've seen/used in the past have been to call the area router for areas in DECnet names like "AnnRTR", where nn is the area number. So, in your case, that would be A61RTR. It's an idea anyway. But I'll leave it to you to decide what to call the machine. I just keep the records...
Another file you might want to look at, if you prefer, would be
MIM::US:[DECNET]NODENAMES.DAT. The format should be obvious if you check
either that, or FIX.CMD
By the way, I hope you know that VMS can copy the nodename database
directly from another machine without you having to hack files on your
own, if that is the reason why you asked for a file...
(from your reference below, I just did that)
:-)
What I'll need to hack the files for, though, are Linux, RSTS/E (most
likely), and the Cisco. I'll just do it with an awk script, that'll be
quick and easy.
Right. Although, you might be able to more or less use the file as is for RSTS/E...
And unless you actually need to do stuff on the Cisco, you don't really have to have a complete nodename database in there...
Assuming you are running Phase IV, just do:
"MCR NCP COPY KNOWN NODES FROM MIM TO BOTH"
and you are set.
Oh nice, I didn't know about that trick. Thanks!
You are welcome. :-)
Now, under RSX, you do this in a very different way. And don't even ask me about RSTS/E, since I don't know for that one. ;-)
(Nor do I know a TOPS-20 equivalent, but I would like to...)
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
