Ian,
I would run either RSX-11M-PLUS or RSTS/E. I am running RSTS/E on one
machine, and if I can ever recover my RSX kit I will be running M+ on
the other machine.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Ian McLaughlin
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 13:05
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Area list
Area 42 is down at the moment - maybe up this weekend though
- I just acquired my first PDP11 so I'll be experimenting
with it this weekend (a long weekend in Canada).
Any suggestions on what to run on a PDP11/73?
Area 42 is in Kelowna, BC, Canada. The router is CANADA::
Ian
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On 2012-07-01, at 10:01 AM, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
I have cleaned up (reduced) links on nodes SG1::, FRUGAL::, and
GORVAX::. Hopefully this will help out.
In the meantime, maybe we could ask members to check-in with their
area, name, and location. That would help me figure out
what is going
on at this end. It may help others as well.
I'll start!
Area: 19
Name: Steve Davidson
Location: Hollis, NH (Eastern US)
Router: SG1:: - connected via bridge and Multinet Tunnels
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:47
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Area list
On 2012-07-01 18:16, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the
reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations,
and "owner".
I have currently area 7 and 8 disabled on my bridge, just
FYI. Seems
to have at least stabilized things on my side.
Routing loops are bad. However, DECnet should normally be able to
resolve this, and get things right, as from a topology
point of view,
DECnet can have multiple paths between nodes. Something is wrong,
indeed...
The current list of the areas are on MIM::, which is shut
down at the
moment, because of the issues with the computer hall. I
hope to have
the machine back up and running soon...
Since GORVAX have an alternative connection, I'll keep it
off at my
end for now, for trouble shooting. As things looks stable
right now,
it will be interesting to turn area 7 back on and see what
happens.
Hold on to your hats...
Johnny
--
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|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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Area 42 is down at the moment - maybe up this weekend though - I just acquired my first PDP11 so I'll be experimenting with it this weekend (a long weekend in Canada).
Any suggestions on what to run on a PDP11/73?
Area 42 is in Kelowna, BC, Canada. The router is CANADA::
Ian
Sent from my iPad
On 2012-07-01, at 10:01 AM, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
I have cleaned up (reduced) links on nodes SG1::, FRUGAL::, and
GORVAX::. Hopefully this will help out.
In the meantime, maybe we could ask members to check-in with their area,
name, and location. That would help me figure out what is going on at
this end. It may help others as well.
I'll start!
Area: 19
Name: Steve Davidson
Location: Hollis, NH (Eastern US)
Router: SG1:: - connected via bridge and Multinet Tunnels
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:47
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Area list
On 2012-07-01 18:16, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the
reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations,
and "owner".
I have currently area 7 and 8 disabled on my bridge, just
FYI. Seems to have at least stabilized things on my side.
Routing loops are bad. However, DECnet should normally be
able to resolve this, and get things right, as from a
topology point of view, DECnet can have multiple paths
between nodes. Something is wrong, indeed...
The current list of the areas are on MIM::, which is shut
down at the moment, because of the issues with the computer
hall. I hope to have the machine back up and running soon...
Since GORVAX have an alternative connection, I'll keep it off
at my end for now, for trouble shooting. As things looks
stable right now, it will be interesting to turn area 7 back
on and see what happens. Hold on to your hats...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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I have cleaned up (reduced) links on nodes SG1::, FRUGAL::, and
GORVAX::. Hopefully this will help out.
In the meantime, maybe we could ask members to check-in with their area,
name, and location. That would help me figure out what is going on at
this end. It may help others as well.
I'll start!
Area: 19
Name: Steve Davidson
Location: Hollis, NH (Eastern US)
Router: SG1:: - connected via bridge and Multinet Tunnels
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:47
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Area list
On 2012-07-01 18:16, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the
reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations,
and "owner".
I have currently area 7 and 8 disabled on my bridge, just
FYI. Seems to have at least stabilized things on my side.
Routing loops are bad. However, DECnet should normally be
able to resolve this, and get things right, as from a
topology point of view, DECnet can have multiple paths
between nodes. Something is wrong, indeed...
The current list of the areas are on MIM::, which is shut
down at the moment, because of the issues with the computer
hall. I hope to have the machine back up and running soon...
Since GORVAX have an alternative connection, I'll keep it off
at my end for now, for trouble shooting. As things looks
stable right now, it will be interesting to turn area 7 back
on and see what happens. Hold on to your hats...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
El 01/07/2012, a les 18:49, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons va escriure:
El 01/07/2012, a les 18:46, Johnny Billquist va escriure:
On 2012-07-01 18:16, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations, and "owner".
I have currently area 7 and 8 disabled on my bridge, just FYI. Seems to have at least stabilized things on my side.
At this moment my host computer seems to be back into the normal status. I've rebooted it and restarted all the VMS, CPU usage and routing information seems to be fine. You could try to reenable me as soon as you want.
The network looks normal from my side now:
sh net
VAX/VMS Network status for local node 7.61 BITXOO on 1-JUL-2012 18:46:42.43
Area Cost Hops Next Hop to Area
1 3 1 UNA-0 -> 1.15 PONDUS
2 3 1 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO
3 4 2 UNA-0 -> 19.41 SG1
7 0 0 (Local) -> 7.61 BITXOO
11 3 1 UNA-0 -> 11.1023 A11RTR
19 3 1 UNA-0 -> 19.41 SG1
33 4 2 UNA-0 -> 19.41 SG1
52 29 5 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO
54 5 2 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO
59 19 4 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO
62 3 1 UNA-0 -> 62.637 CTAKAH
Node Links Cost Hops Next Hop to Node
7.61 BITXOO 0 0 0 (Local) -> 7.61 BITXOO
7.6 MBSERV 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.6 MBSERV
7.60 BITXOV 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.60 BITXOV
7.63 BITXOS 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.64 BITXO1
7.64 BITXO1 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.64 BITXO1
7.65 BITXO2 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.65 BITXO2
7.68 BITXO5 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.68 BITXO5
7.71 BITXOR 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.71 BITXOR
7.78 BITXT2 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.78 BITXT2
BTW, all my "iron" vaxen which are in working condition are now online :) I'll keep the big ones (well, "sorta" big) up for some hours, just to hear them humming...
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
El 01/07/2012, a les 18:46, Johnny Billquist va escriure:
On 2012-07-01 18:16, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations, and "owner".
I have currently area 7 and 8 disabled on my bridge, just FYI. Seems to have at least stabilized things on my side.
At this moment my host computer seems to be back into the normal status. I've rebooted it and restarted all the VMS, CPU usage and routing information seems to be fine. You could try to reenable me as soon as you want.
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
On 2012-07-01 18:16, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations, and "owner".
I have currently area 7 and 8 disabled on my bridge, just FYI. Seems to have at least stabilized things on my side.
Routing loops are bad. However, DECnet should normally be able to resolve this, and get things right, as from a topology point of view, DECnet can have multiple paths between nodes. Something is wrong, indeed...
The current list of the areas are on MIM::, which is shut down at the moment, because of the issues with the computer hall. I hope to have the machine back up and running soon...
Since GORVAX have an alternative connection, I'll keep it off at my end for now, for trouble shooting. As things looks stable right now, it will be interesting to turn area 7 back on and see what happens. Hold on to your hats...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations, and "owner".
Thanks!
-Steve
My Multinet link to area 59 is down, but LEGATO thinks area 59 is
accessible thru CEIRE, which thinks that it's accessible thru A54RTR. The
latter box apparently doesn't speak NML (or won't talk to me) so I can't ask
it what's going on. Peter??? Are you out there?? Is area 59 up or
down??? And what's A54RTR?
Hi Bob,
At least one of the Peters involved is here :-)
A54RTR is a Cisco IGS which has GRE tunnels to area 59 on test. It appears
the more standard connection from area 59 to the rest of Hecnet (via SG1
perhaps?) is down.
A similar thing is going on with area 52 (CEIRE -> A54RTR -> ???) although
I don't have a Multinet link in this instance. Are there any machines in
area 52 actually up?
Area 52 appears to be reachable via area 59. It looks likely that area 52
should also be reachable via SG1 but isn't.
The router(s) in area 52 and 59 don't appear to speak (much) NML either.
At this moment I can't see anything from area 7. I guess John has just turned off his side.
El 01/07/2012, a les 17:29, Bob Armstrong va escriure:
don t know if any of it means anything, but there are many odd things as observed from LEGATO.
LEGATO thinks area 7 is routable via the Multinet link to GORVAX, and GORVAX thinks area 7 is routed via the Multinet link to SG1, which thinks area 7 is adjacent via the Multinet link to GORVAX. There s a routing loop, which is always bad.
My Multinet link to area 59 is down, but LEGATO thinks area 59 is accessible thru CEIRE, which thinks that it s accessible thru A54RTR. The latter box apparently doesn t speak NML (or won t talk to me) so I can t ask it what s going on. Peter??? Are you out there?? Is area 59 up or down??? And what s A54RTR?
A similar thing is going on with area 52 (CEIRE -> A54RTR -> ???) although I don t have a Multinet link in this instance. Are there any machines in area 52 actually up?
SG1 does appear to bounce up and down fairly often. This is an old problem that was discussed but never really resolved. Since SG1 is an area routing node, having it bounce undoubtedly confuses things.
Bob
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
don t know if any of it means anything, but there are many odd things as observed from LEGATO.
LEGATO thinks area 7 is routable via the Multinet link to GORVAX, and GORVAX thinks area 7 is routed via the Multinet link to SG1, which thinks area 7 is adjacent via the Multinet link to GORVAX. There s a routing loop, which is always bad.
My Multinet link to area 59 is down, but LEGATO thinks area 59 is accessible thru CEIRE, which thinks that it s accessible thru A54RTR. The latter box apparently doesn t speak NML (or won t talk to me) so I can t ask it what s going on. Peter??? Are you out there?? Is area 59 up or down??? And what s A54RTR?
A similar thing is going on with area 52 (CEIRE -> A54RTR -> ???) although I don t have a Multinet link in this instance. Are there any machines in area 52 actually up?
SG1 does appear to bounce up and down fairly often. This is an old problem that was discussed but never really resolved. Since SG1 is an area routing node, having it bounce undoubtedly confuses things.
Bob
