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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-07-24 01:33, Mark Benson wrote: Is it feasible/advisable/possible to have 2 Area Routers on a DECnet Phase IV network? The only reason I ask is that I'd like my emulated cluster system to be able to run Area 6 independently as all the nodes are area 6 nodes and it'd be neat to have area 6 working at places events like DEC Legacy. Would it cause issues on HECNet having 2 Area 6 routers in different places also? I'm guessing not as they are still on the same DECnet network, same as if they are in the same room on the same LAN, but what do I know ;) No problems. The only thing is that all area routers needs to have connectivity with other area routers with no level 1 routers in between. So in your case, your two area routers must be able to talk to each other without using any level 1 routers. However, I don't think that you must have a direct connection between them. I *think* that it should work fine even if they only connect via area routers in other areas. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

12 years, 10 months

RSX11M 4.6 complete installation logs

by Alastair.Boyanich＠au.fujitsu.com

Nope. :-( It's still owned, restricted and a silly situation. Just like the last 10 years... Johnny Nuts.

12 years, 10 months

Multiple Area routers on one area?

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

That's fine, and feasible, and in fact highly recommended if you want to build a robust network. The one thing to keep in mind is that you need to make sure the area is not partitioned. In other words, if you build for fault tolerance, first concentrate on protecting the area from partitioning. Having done that, build redundancy into the level 2 network. If you have two L2 routers out of the area, and that area is partitioned, traffic inbound will land on whichever area router is on the shortest path from the source. Area routing (L2 routing) is not aware of the details of what's inside areas; it only pays attention to the area part of the address. So there's a 50/50 chance that the router where the packet arrives into the destination area is the one that can't reach the destination. BTW, this is a direct analogy with the IP requirement that you have to protect against partitioned subnets, and for the same reason. I'm not sure from your description, but if what you're trying to do is to have two clumps of nodes that both call themselves area 6, but they aren't connected by L1 routers, the answer is that doesn't work anymore than two clumps of IP hosts that aren't connected but still claim to be in the same subnet will work. Don't do that. paul On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Mark Benson wrote: Is it feasible/advisable/possible to have 2 Area Routers on a DECnet Phase IV network? The only reason I ask is that I'd like my emulated cluster system to be able to run Area 6 independently as all the nodes are area 6 nodes and it'd be neat to have area 6 working at places events like DEC Legacy. Would it cause issues on HECNet having 2 Area 6 routers in different places also? I'm guessing not as they are still on the same DECnet network, same as if they are in the same room on the same LAN, but what do I know ;) -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

12 years, 10 months

Multiple Area routers on one area?

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Is it feasible/advisable/possible to have 2 Area Routers on a DECnet Phase IV network? Yes. Restriction, you need are-routers to talk to all area-routers in your area thorug area-routers.. So you can not have non-area routers as transit between area routers. If you have two area routers on the same LAN, router priority and/or node-number will be used by the non-area routers to select wich one they hand their outgoing traffic to. The only reason I ask is that I'd like my emulated cluster system to be = able to run Area 6 independently as all the nodes are area 6 nodes and = it'd be neat to have area 6 working at places events like DEC Legacy. Would it cause issues on HECNet having 2 Area 6 routers in different = places also? I'm guessing not as they are still on the same DECnet = network, same as if they are in the same room on the same LAN, but what = do I know ;) I have 4 area routers in area 59, US-east-coast, US-west-coast and two in Sweden, works fine. --P

12 years, 10 months

Multiple Area routers on one area?

by md.benson＠gmail.com

Is it feasible/advisable/possible to have 2 Area Routers on a DECnet Phase IV network? The only reason I ask is that I'd like my emulated cluster system to be able to run Area 6 independently as all the nodes are area 6 nodes and it'd be neat to have area 6 working at places events like DEC Legacy. Would it cause issues on HECNet having 2 Area 6 routers in different places also? I'm guessing not as they are still on the same DECnet network, same as if they are in the same room on the same LAN, but what do I know ;) -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

12 years, 10 months

Multinet upgrade on LEGATO

by bob＠jfcl.com

FYI - I m updating Multinet and making a few other changes on LEGATO this morning. It shouldn t require any changes on anybody else s end, but you will see the machine being rebooted several times this morning. Bob

12 years, 10 months

New Nodes -- Finally

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-07-16 02:42, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, I don't know who is updating the records at the moment. But I now have machines up and running, they should be up 24x7 51.1 slimer zx6000 VMS V8.3-1H1 51.2 Walter zx6000 VMS V8.3-1H1 51.3 dana simh VMS V7.3 51.4 gozer IBM 911-285 Debian Squeeze 51.5 ray 4000/90 VMS V7.3 By the way, I assume this means all previous definitions in area 51 are invalid, and were deleted. Let me know if I was wrong. The old ones you had conflicted with this list. Johnny

12 years, 11 months

New Nodes -- Finally

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-07-16 02:42, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, I don't know who is updating the records at the moment. But I now have machines up and running, they should be up 24x7 That would be me. 51.1 slimer zx6000 VMS V8.3-1H1 51.2 Walter zx6000 VMS V8.3-1H1 51.3 dana simh VMS V7.3 51.4 gozer IBM 911-285 Debian Squeeze 51.5 ray 4000/90 VMS V7.3 Noted. I was looking through the archives, I thought I saw that someone had layered products for ia64 on their machine. Can anyone remind me who it was ? I know someone did have something up, but the memory fails me too at the moment. Johnny

12 years, 11 months

RSX11M 4.6 complete installation logs

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-07-16 00:22, Boyanich, Alastair wrote: Nice! You've got further than I did on my 11 due to lack of tapes. Out of interest, is there something similar to the VMS hobbyist distro where you can pay or even better freely download all the compilers, layered products, $other crimes ? Nope. :-( It's still owned, restricted and a silly situation. Just like the last 10 years... Johnny Al. -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Sent: Monday, 16 July 2012 1:55 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] RSX11M 4.6 complete installation logs I've completed 3 posts about the installation/generation of a RSX11M 4.6 (no plus) system from scratch under the simh simulator. If someone is interested, the links are: http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/installing-rsx-11m-46-from- scratch-part.html http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/installing-rsx-11m-46-from- scratch-part_12.html http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/installing-rsx-11m-46-from- scratch-part_15.html (There is no addsense in that blog, even though I must confess I tried to enable it and was rebuked by google because of "lack of content" ;), so this obvious spamming has no monetary interests behind ;)). I'd like to complete my setup with decnet and some layered products. I've got BP2 2.5, F4 2.8 and F77 5.4. I'd like to get: - COBOL (74 and 81) - FMS-11 - DECNET (I've got a kit for 11M+, but no for 11M) - DBMS-11 (CODASYL databases rule! :)) - Of course, a more up-to-date version of BP2 (I've got one for microRSX that does not run under 11M). I'd appreciate anyone pointing me to where I could find those jewels :) Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

12 years, 11 months

DECtec Wiki Blue Theme?

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

If anyone knows the Pantone number for DEC blue, that would be great. All I ever saw were references to a DEC standard for corporate colors, but I never saw the standard itself. Perhaps that mentioned Pantone numbers. If not, I wonder what it used instead... paul On Jul 17, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Mark Benson wrote: Can anyone provide me with a swatch or sample of which DEC blue you think I ought to use for the blue Wiki theme? There are many different shades of blue used by DEC over the years and I'm a little confused :) -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

12 years, 11 months

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