No it's not getting that far
Dan
On 17 Sep 2012, at 22:34, "hvlems at zonnet.nl" <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
A DS200 needs its os downloaded from a host. Did it get that far, did the load host receive a download request?
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:29:05
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Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] DECserver 200/MC - Worth a Punt?
Hi,
So I bought it, as Mark had found another one. Only thing is it
doesn't seem to be working.
Anyone got any experience with these. I have found a few manuals
online but they all refer to a Technical Manual which I can't find
anywhere.
It starts up with just the Power light on, the 2nd Light does not come
on, which is supposed to indicate self test is OK. The network light
flashes with network activity.
I have a had a cursory glance inside. Everything is connected, nothing
blown up or melted.
There is nothing at all on the 1st serial port. I've tried resetting
to defaults with the reset button and nothing. The guy I got it from
said it was working when powered down.
Anyone got any clues ?
A DS200 needs its os downloaded from a host. Did it get that far, did the load host receive a download request?
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:29:05
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] DECserver 200/MC - Worth a Punt?
Hi,
So I bought it, as Mark had found another one. Only thing is it
doesn't seem to be working.
Anyone got any experience with these. I have found a few manuals
online but they all refer to a Technical Manual which I can't find
anywhere.
It starts up with just the Power light on, the 2nd Light does not come
on, which is supposed to indicate self test is OK. The network light
flashes with network activity.
I have a had a cursory glance inside. Everything is connected, nothing
blown up or melted.
There is nothing at all on the 1st serial port. I've tried resetting
to defaults with the reset button and nothing. The guy I got it from
said it was working when powered down.
Anyone got any clues ?
Hi,
So I bought it, as Mark had found another one. Only thing is it
doesn't seem to be working.
Anyone got any experience with these. I have found a few manuals
online but they all refer to a Technical Manual which I can't find
anywhere.
It starts up with just the Power light on, the 2nd Light does not come
on, which is supposed to indicate self test is OK. The network light
flashes with network activity.
I have a had a cursory glance inside. Everything is connected, nothing
blown up or melted.
There is nothing at all on the 1st serial port. I've tried resetting
to defaults with the reset button and nothing. The guy I got it from
said it was working when powered down.
Anyone got any clues ?
Hello, list.
I've move some simulated machines to my brand new raspberry PI :). Now these systems:
- BITXOO (7.61, VMS 4.7, Area router)
- BITXOR (7.71, RSX11-M+)
- BITXOV (7.60, VMS 7.3)
reside in that little thingy :). The three are running at the same time (mostly idle otoh...). There should be no external effect, unless I am so silly to try to boot up the old "copy" of those machines.
For general information and amusement, I downloaded simh from the git repository, apt-get installed the network prerreq packages (basically the vde2 and the libpcap stuff) and built 3.9 from sources. It toke a little bit of time (the raspberry is not a lightning fast machine...), but everything built OK, no trouble, no hassle... I used the VDE setup I described in my blog, with no problems either.
So I've sucumbed to the raspberry virus too... :)
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
Very keen to hear what you make of the user mode routing when you try it
out. Let me know.
Thanks
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger
Sent: 16 September 2012 18:57
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] SIMH IDLE (again)
Ok, I got my main server rebuilt and so it's time to run some simh for
testing
(particularly the new user mode routing stuff).
However, I'm still fighting this:
wonko at zaphod$ BIN/vax
VAX simulator V3.9-0
sim> set cpu idle
Command not allowed
sim> set cpu idle=VAX
Invalid argument
sim>
I'd really like for IDLE to work so I can run several copies of simh
without
nuking my CPUs.
Thoughts?
wonko at zaphod$ uname -a
SunOS zaphod 5.11 oi_151a5 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
-brian
Ok, I got my main server rebuilt and so it's time to run some simh for
testing (particularly the new user mode routing stuff).
However, I'm still fighting this:
wonko at zaphod$ BIN/vax
VAX simulator V3.9-0
sim> set cpu idle
Command not allowed
sim> set cpu idle=VAX
Invalid argument
sim>
I'd really like for IDLE to work so I can run several copies of simh
without nuking my CPUs.
Thoughts?
I'm running the same version of simh under Alpha VMS 8.2 on an Alphaserver 800
and Alpha VMS 7.3-1 on an Alphaserver 1000A.
set cpu idle works fine for me (however, set cpu idle=VAX is not correct - it
should be set cpu idle=VMS).
$ run [-.bin]VAX-AXP-NOASYNCH
VAX simulator V3.9-0
sim> show cpu
CPU, idle disabled, 16MB, HALT to SIMH
sim> set cpu idle
sim> show cpu
CPU, idle=VMS, idle enabled, stability wait = 20s, 16MB, HALT to SIMH
sim> set cpu idle=vms
sim> show cpu
CPU, idle=VMS, idle enabled, stability wait = 20s, 16MB, HALT to SIMH
sim>
Perhaps there is a host platform specific problem with set cpu idle?
I would also like to run multible instances of simh. This works fine for me as
long as only one of them tries to do networking. Once I attempt to start
networking on a second instance, the networking on the first instance stops
working. This makes it difficult to run a vaxcluster on my alpha :-(
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Ok, I got my main server rebuilt and so it's time to run some simh for testing (particularly the new user mode routing stuff).
However, I'm still fighting this:
wonko at zaphod$ BIN/vax
VAX simulator V3.9-0
sim> set cpu idle
Command not allowed
sim> set cpu idle=VAX
Invalid argument
sim>
I'd really like for IDLE to work so I can run several copies of simh without nuking my CPUs.
Thoughts?
wonko at zaphod$ uname -a
SunOS zaphod 5.11 oi_151a5 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
-brian
IIRC object-specific default accounts (for FAL, PHONE and so on) appeared in version 5.0. In previous versions the setup command procedure just asked for the DECNET account.
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa
El 15/09/2012, a les 21:00, Peter Coghlan <HECNET at beyondthepale.ie> va escriure:
I don't have a good understanding of default accounts when using NETCONFIG.
I would like to allow people to list files in a specific directory (DIR
NODE::), PHONE me and MAIL me. Does this mean I need to specify default
accounts for FAL, MAIL and PHONE? If so, what is the purpose of the "Default
DECnet account", which is the first of the questions in the sequence below:
My understanding of it (which might not be correct) is that the default
FAL account is used if someone remote does not specify a username and password
when doing a file access on your machine, the default PHONE account is used
when someone remote PHONEs your machine without specifying a username and
password and the default MAIL account is used when someone remotely sends
MAIL-11 mail to your machine without specifying a username and password (Is
it even possible to specify a username and password with PHONE and MAIL?)
So for example, files which FAL$SERVER has rights to access will be made
available to anyone who remotely tries to access them without their having to
specify a valid username and password on your machine.
If no username and password is specified by someone attempting to access
anything remotely on your machine and no suitable default account is available
for the activity in question, the default DECnet account will then be used if
available.
Therefore (I think) the default DECnet account is a catchall and if you have
one, you are granting anyone remote from your machine, some level of access to
all DECnet services on your machine.
I can't see any real use for it except for people who are too lazy to set up
the other few default accounts that they really want which offer finer control
over what services are made available remotely. I seem to remember default
DECnet accounts going out of favour and being regarded as a security risk.
(In addition to default accounts, default proxies also come into play here but
I thought it better not to further complicate things by mentioning them...)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
I don't have a good understanding of default accounts when using NETCONFIG.
I would like to allow people to list files in a specific directory (DIR
NODE::), PHONE me and MAIL me. Does this mean I need to specify default
accounts for FAL, MAIL and PHONE? If so, what is the purpose of the "Default
DECnet account", which is the first of the questions in the sequence below:
My understanding of it (which might not be correct) is that the default
FAL account is used if someone remote does not specify a username and password
when doing a file access on your machine, the default PHONE account is used
when someone remote PHONEs your machine without specifying a username and
password and the default MAIL account is used when someone remotely sends
MAIL-11 mail to your machine without specifying a username and password (Is
it even possible to specify a username and password with PHONE and MAIL?)
So for example, files which FAL$SERVER has rights to access will be made
available to anyone who remotely tries to access them without their having to
specify a valid username and password on your machine.
If no username and password is specified by someone attempting to access
anything remotely on your machine and no suitable default account is available
for the activity in question, the default DECnet account will then be used if
available.
Therefore (I think) the default DECnet account is a catchall and if you have
one, you are granting anyone remote from your machine, some level of access to
all DECnet services on your machine.
I can't see any real use for it except for people who are too lazy to set up
the other few default accounts that they really want which offer finer control
over what services are made available remotely. I seem to remember default
DECnet accounts going out of favour and being regarded as a security risk.
(In addition to default accounts, default proxies also come into play here but
I thought it better not to further complicate things by mentioning them...)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
