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rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On 29 Oct 2012, at 03:30, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa El 29/10/2012, a les 1:38, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> va escriure: As that could take some time, have any experience with DECnet and TOPS-20 in klh10? I read the documentation for it but it wasn't particularly helpful with regards to the networking "fronted" klh10 emulates, and I can't exactly load the executor config stuff to bring the node and circuit online. It works mostly "out of the box" with the Panda distribution. You have to fiddle a little bit with the configuration file but IIRC it is pretty straightforward. I'll check it when I get access to my machine. Or you can check it yourself SET HOSTing to BITXT2 in HECnet. Unknown node, what's its address? Could you explain what you did to configure it?

13 years, 1 month

DECnet VMS <-> RSTS/E

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/29/2012 03:26 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: Going from RSTS/E to VMS via "SET HOST 61.2" gives me this: --------------------------------------------- $ set host 61.2 Connection Established to VAX/VMS Node 61.2 ?Unsupported Virtual Terminal Protocol. I don't think you can use RTERM as an incoming protocol. And since you can't use it outgoing (from the Alpha) I guess it has been removed from Alpha VMS too... I don't think it has been removed...it seems to be just plain crashing. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years, 1 month

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa El 29/10/2012, a les 1:38, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> va escriure: As that could take some time, have any experience with DECnet and TOPS-20 in klh10? I read the documentation for it but it wasn't particularly helpful with regards to the networking "fronted" klh10 emulates, and I can't exactly load the executor config stuff to bring the node and circuit online. It works mostly "out of the box" with the Panda distribution. You have to fiddle a little bit with the configuration file but IIRC it is pretty straightforward. I'll check it when I get access to my machine. Or you can check it yourself SET HOSTing to BITXT2 in HECnet.

13 years, 1 month

DECnet VMS <-> RSTS/E

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa El 29/10/2012, a les 8:07, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> va escriure: Going from RSTS/E to VMS via "SET HOST 61.2" gives me this: --------------------------------------------- $ set host 61.2 Connection Established to VAX/VMS Node 61.2 ?Unsupported Virtual Terminal Protocol. I don't think you can use RTERM as an incoming protocol. And since you can't use it outgoing (from the Alpha) I guess it has been removed from Alpha VMS too... The only "solution" I can think about is to use a simulated VAX to SET HOST into the RSTS machine, or to stick to LAT. But that would work just in one direction.

13 years, 1 month

DECnet VMS <-> RSTS/E

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi guys. I fired up a (real hardware) PDP-11 tonight and did some DECnet testing between it and my up-24/7 Alpha. The systems are a DS10L running VMS v8.3 node 61.2 (AXPEE), and a PDP-11/53 running RSTS/E v10.1 and DECnet/E v4.1, node 61.4 (MECCA). Going from VMS to RSTS/E via "SET HOST/APP=RTERM 61.4" gives me the same crash as was reported earlier. Going from RSTS/E to VMS via "SET HOST 61.2" gives me this: --------------------------------------------- $ set host 61.2 Connection Established to VAX/VMS Node 61.2 ?Unsupported Virtual Terminal Protocol. Control returned to node MECCA --------------------------------------------- Note: File operations work bidirectionally without difficulty. I log into the PDP-11 from my desktop via LAT using the "llogin" command, as I have LAT running on the PDP-11. I can also reach the Alpha via LAT. I don't know how to establish an outbound LAT connection in RSTS/E (and it's getting late) so I haven't tried that. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years, 1 month

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 08:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Got it reinstalled it still doesn't work the way you said to do it, but doing it through @[0,1]instal works so i'll just use that route any time I need to build a monitor On that note...are you sure that you set the logicals that I told you about in my first message about this? $ assign/system sy:[0,12] sysgen$$ $ assign/system sy:[0,1] system$$ After assigning the logicals it works fine. Seems I forgot to set them last time I tried. Oops. Ahh ok. Mystery solved. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years, 1 month

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 08:22 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Got it reinstalled it still doesn't work the way you said to do it, but doing it through @[0,1]instal works so i'll just use that route any time I need to build a monitor On that note...are you sure that you set the logicals that I told you about in my first message about this? $ assign/system sy:[0,12] sysgen$$ $ assign/system sy:[0,1] system$$ After assigning the logicals it works fine. Seems I forgot to set them last time I tried. Oops. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years, 1 month

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 08:22 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Got it reinstalled it still doesn't work the way you said to do it, but doing it through @[0,1]instal works so i'll just use that route any time I need to build a monitor On that note...are you sure that you set the logicals that I told you about in my first message about this? $ assign/system sy:[0,12] sysgen$$ $ assign/system sy:[0,1] system$$ -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years, 1 month

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 10/28/2012 08:38 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Ok. I'll bring up a RSTS/E system and run some tests here. This will involve real hardware; none of my emulated systems are networked right now. I may get to this later tonight. You have a lot of real DEC hardware, don't you? ;) Yep. I would estimate about 45-50, not including destkop machines. Including desktop machines...it's...um, a LOT. And I wouldn't live any other way. As that could take some time, have any experience with DECnet and TOPS-20 in klh10? With DECnet on that platform, none at all. Sorry. :-( I read the documentation for it but it wasn't particularly helpful with regards to the networking "fronted" klh10 emulates, and I can't exactly load the executor config stuff to bring the node and circuit online. If Peter is around, he's your man here, I think. Two things I can tell you is that I can easily reach a RSTS/E system from a Linux system via LAT, and also file operations work between that pair. File operations also work between the RSTS/E system and an Alpha running VMS. (all real hardware) I've probably misconfigured something obvious. Could be. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years, 1 month

rebuild RSTS/E monitor, was Re: [HECnet] RSTS/E 10.1 and OpenVMS via DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Oct 28, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/28/2012 08:22 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: What's up with your DECnet installation, again? It's connected to the network, yet it can't reach any other nodes. Adjacency notices between nodes are seen, but they cannot communicate. Alpha to RSTS/E resulted in $ set host/app=rterm 33.301 %REM-I-CONNECTION, connection made using RTERM protocol %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000517000008AA4, PC=0000517000008AA4, PS=0000001B Improperly handled condition, image exit forced. Signal arguments: Number = 0000000000000005 Name = 000000000000000C 0000000000000000 0000517000008AA4 0000517000008AA4 000000000000001B Register dump: R0 = 0000000000000003 R1 = 0000000000008F50 R2 = 0000000000008134 R3 = 0000000000034804 R4 = 000000007FFCF814 R5 = 0000000000009AEF R6 = 0000000000000000 R7 = 0000000000000001 R8 = 000000000003481D R9 = 000000007FF9DDF0 R10 = 000000007FFA4F28 R11 = 000000007FFCDC18 R12 = 000000007FFCDA98 R13 = 0000000000005170 R14 = 0000000000008E28 R15 = 0000000000008E28 R16 = 0000000002A83089 R17 = 0000000000200000 R18 = FFFFFFFF809043A0 R19 = FFFFFFFF816367D0 R20 = 0000000000000002 R21 = 0000000000000000 R22 = 000000007AE4BA54 R23 = FFFFFFFF80190A50 R24 = 0000000000000001 R25 = 0000000000000003 R26 = FFFFFFFF80190A8C R27 = 000000007AE4BA54 R28 = 0000000000000006 R29 = 000000007AE4BA60 SP = 000000007AE4BA30 PC = 0000517000008AA4 PS = 300000000000001B $ And VAX to RSTS/E just results in a timeout. Attempting to dir from an Alpha results in the request being seen on RSTS/E, but it fails. RSTS/E to Alpha results in $ set host 33.302 Connection Established to VAX/VMS Node 33.302 ?Unsupported Virtual Terminal Protocol. Control returned to node MINDY So, I don't know what I misconfigured. Ok. I'll bring up a RSTS/E system and run some tests here. This will involve real hardware; none of my emulated systems are networked right now. I may get to this later tonight. You have a lot of real DEC hardware, don't you? ;) As that could take some time, have any experience with DECnet and TOPS-20 in klh10? I read the documentation for it but it wasn't particularly helpful with regards to the networking "fronted" klh10 emulates, and I can't exactly load the executor config stuff to bring the node and circuit online. Two things I can tell you is that I can easily reach a RSTS/E system from a Linux system via LAT, and also file operations work between that pair. File operations also work between the RSTS/E system and an Alpha running VMS. (all real hardware) I've probably misconfigured something obvious. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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