HECnet March 2015

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DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner!

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:07 PM, <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> wrote: On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote: Hi Rob Maybe you can add some info on your router at some point in the presentation? BTW I meant to ask does it work under Windows? I don't know about the python version - can you give me any more details please? That s mine. It s not finished, but it s doing basic router work at this point. I intend to add the layers above, so, for example, it will eventually support NICE. That means doing NSP, and that is so far just a few bits and pieces. It s written in Python 3, as a fairly straightforward implementation of what the architecture specs say. Phase II, III, and IV. That probably wasn t clear. I meant two things: (a) it should talk to II, III, and IV nodes, and (b) it can be a II, III, or IV node. As a IV node, it is slightly odd in that it will accept phase II neighbors, which typical DECnet implementations will do if they are Phase III but not phase IV. But that s really just because the spec doesn t describe how; it s fairly obvious how to make it work. paul

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DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner!

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote: Hi Rob Maybe you can add some info on your router at some point in the presentation? BTW I meant to ask does it work under Windows? I don't know about the python version - can you give me any more details please? That s mine. It s not finished, but it s doing basic router work at this point. I intend to add the layers above, so, for example, it will eventually support NICE. That means doing NSP, and that is so far just a few bits and pieces. It s written in Python 3, as a fairly straightforward implementation of what the architecture specs say. Phase II, III, and IV. IV has seen some testing against other implementations, II and III just against test scripts. LAN and point to point data links (GRE, Multinet, Ethernet via pcap or tap). DDCMP is planned but not there yet. Ditto a Johnny Bilquist style bridge. Some MOP (sysid including a listener, that s actually what prompted this whole effort). There is a fairly extensive test suite, which I found to be quite helpful in making this stuff closer to correct, and some basic documentation. Some monitoring via HTTP; that s intended to grow over time and hopefully become both monitoring and control. In general it should run on anything that supports Python 3. The pcap code is somewhat OS dependent because some of its interfaces are; I ve tested it on Linux and Mac OS. The tap code also is OS dependent for similar reasons; that one so far has only been tested on Mac OS (and not recently; I switched to using the pcap interface once I dumped the pylibpcap module and replaced it by my own pure-Python module). If I remember correctly, there s a pcap on Windows, so that is a possible way to get the Ethernet code working on Windows. If you do, I d appreciate seeing any necessary changes; I don t normally do anything with Windows so none of this code has been tested there, though chances are the work needed is not all that large. You can find the current code on my Subversion server, svn://akdesign.dyndns.org/pydecnet/trunk/pydecnet . Questions, comments, and suggestions welcome. paul

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DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner!

by steve＠davidson.net

What about NetBSD? -Steve Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2015, at 13:34, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: Happy to add information, I ll reply separately, but yes it does run under Windows, Linux/Debian and FreeBSD. Paul Koning is, I think, on this list, so he can tell you about his Python router. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: 08 March 2015 12:47 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner! Hi Rob Maybe you can add some info on your router at some point in the presentation? BTW I meant to ask does it work under Windows? I don't know about the python version - can you give me any more details please? I've update the Alpha/MIPS section Thanks, Mark. On 8 March 2015 at 00:30, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: Hello Mark, The programme is looking really amazing, I am so impressed with the work you put into this part. In your talk on HECnet, it would be nice if you mentioned my user mode router, and you may also like to mention Paul Koning s Python version! Just a small correction to the exhibits. The DECstation and DECsystem I am thinking of bringing are MIPS, not Alpha. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: 07 March 2015 21:54 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org; hecnet at Update.UU.SE; DEC discussion list. Subject: [HECnet] DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner! Sincere Greetings This is a quick email to remind you that DEC Legacy 2015 is just around the corner! I've recently updated the web page with some exciting presentations and demonstrations including the following topics: VAX MP - Simulating a SMP VAX Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser Unearthing an important historical computer at the computer sheds museum Jim Austin, The Jim Austin Computer Collection Video Presentation Bernd 'vaxman' Ulmann An Update from the Living Computer Museum Rich Alderson, Senior System Engineer The MCPRINT Utility, 30 years in the making Malcolm Blunden, retired VMS Systems Manager The Future of VMS Sue Skonetski, VP of Customer Engagement, VMS Software Getting the DEC experience on modern hardware Peter Allan, ex VAX system manager and VMS programmer HECnet - A worldwide DECnet network Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser ... and there will be more yet to come. We also now have quite an impressive list of exhibits which I expect to continue to grow throughout the next month. Whatever your favourite era of DEC kit you are sure to find something of interest. The registration page allows registration for a single day or the whole weekend. Please come, join in and experience the best computing equipment from the best manufacturer! Kind regards, Mark Wickens Event Organiser p.s. please forward this email to anyone else you think might be interested in attending!

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DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner!

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

Happy to add information, I ll reply separately, but yes it does run under Windows, Linux/Debian and FreeBSD. Paul Koning is, I think, on this list, so he can tell you about his Python router. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: 08 March 2015 12:47 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner! Hi Rob Maybe you can add some info on your router at some point in the presentation? BTW I meant to ask does it work under Windows? I don't know about the python version - can you give me any more details please? I've update the Alpha/MIPS section Thanks, Mark. On 8 March 2015 at 00:30, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: Hello Mark, The programme is looking really amazing, I am so impressed with the work you put into this part. In your talk on HECnet, it would be nice if you mentioned my user mode router, and you may also like to mention Paul Koning s Python version! Just a small correction to the exhibits. The DECstation and DECsystem I am thinking of bringing are MIPS, not Alpha. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: 07 March 2015 21:54 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org; hecnet at Update.UU.SE; DEC discussion list. Subject: [HECnet] DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner! Sincere Greetings This is a quick email to remind you that DEC Legacy 2015 is just around the corner! I've recently updated the web page with some exciting presentations and demonstrations including the following topics: VAX MP - Simulating a SMP VAX Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser Unearthing an important historical computer at the computer sheds museum Jim Austin, The Jim Austin Computer Collection Video Presentation Bernd 'vaxman' Ulmann An Update from the Living Computer Museum Rich Alderson, Senior System Engineer The MCPRINT Utility, 30 years in the making Malcolm Blunden, retired VMS Systems Manager The Future of VMS Sue Skonetski, VP of Customer Engagement, VMS Software Getting the DEC experience on modern hardware Peter Allan, ex VAX system manager and VMS programmer HECnet - A worldwide DECnet network Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser ... and there will be more yet to come. We also now have quite an impressive list of exhibits which I expect to continue to grow throughout the next month. Whatever your favourite era of DEC kit you are sure to find something of interest. The registration page allows registration for a single day or the whole weekend. Please come, join in and experience the best computing equipment from the best manufacturer! Kind regards, Mark Wickens Event Organiser p.s. please forward this email to anyone else you think might be interested in attending!

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DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner!

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi Rob Maybe you can add some info on your router at some point in the presentation? BTW I meant to ask does it work under Windows? I don't know about the python version - can you give me any more details please? I've update the Alpha/MIPS section Thanks, Mark. On 8 March 2015 at 00:30, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: Hello Mark, The programme is looking really amazing, I am so impressed with the work you put into this part. In your talk on HECnet, it would be nice if you mentioned my user mode router, and you may also like to mention Paul Koning s Python version! Just a small correction to the exhibits. The DECstation and DECsystem I am thinking of bringing are MIPS, not Alpha. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: 07 March 2015 21:54 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org; hecnet at Update.UU.SE; DEC discussion list. Subject: [HECnet] DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner! Sincere Greetings This is a quick email to remind you that DEC Legacy 2015 is just around the corner! I've recently updated the web page with some exciting presentations and demonstrations including the following topics: VAX MP - Simulating a SMP VAX Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser Unearthing an important historical computer at the computer sheds museum Jim Austin, The Jim Austin Computer Collection Video Presentation Bernd 'vaxman' Ulmann An Update from the Living Computer Museum Rich Alderson, Senior System Engineer The MCPRINT Utility, 30 years in the making Malcolm Blunden, retired VMS Systems Manager The Future of VMS Sue Skonetski, VP of Customer Engagement, VMS Software Getting the DEC experience on modern hardware Peter Allan, ex VAX system manager and VMS programmer HECnet - A worldwide DECnet network Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser ... and there will be more yet to come. We also now have quite an impressive list of exhibits which I expect to continue to grow throughout the next month. Whatever your favourite era of DEC kit you are sure to find something of interest. The registration page allows registration for a single day or the whole weekend. Please come, join in and experience the best computing equipment from the best manufacturer! Kind regards, Mark Wickens Event Organiser p.s. please forward this email to anyone else you think might be interested in attending!

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PDP-8 celebration @ VCF East

by evan＠snarc.net

DECheads, Just heard about the UK event, so I thought posting about a VCF East is also a good idea. :) This year's vintage Computer Festival East is April 17-19 at the InfoAge Science Center in Wall, New Jersey. The schedule is as follows: - Friday all day: technical classes. - Saturday/Sunday morning: keynotes (Wes Clark, Bob Frankston) - Saturday/Sunday all day after keynotes: exhibit hall, museum tours, consignment/vendors There's a special PDP-8 presentation Friday at lunchtime, and there's a PDP-8 pavilion in the exhibit hall Saturday and Sunday. The pavilion features 7 of our event's 36 exhibitors. Those 7 are all showing various models of the PDP-8 in honor of its 50th anniversary. David Gesswein, who you all probably know, will exhibit our club's Straight-8. It will go on display in our museum (same venue as where the show is) after the event. Full details, online ticketing, social media links, etc. are at http://www.vintage.org/2015/east/. - Evan Koblentz VCF East producer

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DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner!

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

Hello Mark, The programme is looking really amazing, I am so impressed with the work you put into this part. In your talk on HECnet, it would be nice if you mentioned my user mode router, and you may also like to mention Paul Koning s Python version! Just a small correction to the exhibits. The DECstation and DECsystem I am thinking of bringing are MIPS, not Alpha. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: 07 March 2015 21:54 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org; hecnet at Update.UU.SE; DEC discussion list. Subject: [HECnet] DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner! Sincere Greetings This is a quick email to remind you that DEC Legacy 2015 is just around the corner! I've recently updated the web page with some exciting presentations and demonstrations including the following topics: VAX MP - Simulating a SMP VAX Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser Unearthing an important historical computer at the computer sheds museum Jim Austin, The Jim Austin Computer Collection Video Presentation Bernd 'vaxman' Ulmann An Update from the Living Computer Museum Rich Alderson, Senior System Engineer The MCPRINT Utility, 30 years in the making Malcolm Blunden, retired VMS Systems Manager The Future of VMS Sue Skonetski, VP of Customer Engagement, VMS Software Getting the DEC experience on modern hardware Peter Allan, ex VAX system manager and VMS programmer HECnet - A worldwide DECnet network Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser ... and there will be more yet to come. We also now have quite an impressive list of exhibits which I expect to continue to grow throughout the next month. Whatever your favourite era of DEC kit you are sure to find something of interest. The registration page allows registration for a single day or the whole weekend. Please come, join in and experience the best computing equipment from the best manufacturer! Kind regards, Mark Wickens Event Organiser p.s. please forward this email to anyone else you think might be interested in attending!

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DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner!

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Good to know. However a week later or so from your special event is ours, that's when VCF East is held at the InfoAge center in Wall Township. Want to be there Mark? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote: Sincere Greetings This is a quick email to remind you that DEC Legacy 2015 is just around the corner! I've recently updated the web page with some exciting presentations and demonstrations including the following topics: VAX MP - Simulating a SMP VAX Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser Unearthing an important historical computer at the computer sheds museum Jim Austin, The Jim Austin Computer Collection Video Presentation Bernd 'vaxman' Ulmann An Update from the Living Computer Museum Rich Alderson, Senior System Engineer The MCPRINT Utility, 30 years in the making Malcolm Blunden, retired VMS Systems Manager The Future of VMS Sue Skonetski, VP of Customer Engagement, VMS Software Getting the DEC experience on modern hardware Peter Allan, ex VAX system manager and VMS programmer HECnet - A worldwide DECnet network Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser ... and there will be more yet to come. We also now have quite an impressive list of exhibits which I expect to continue to grow throughout the next month. Whatever your favourite era of DEC kit you are sure to find something of interest. The registration page allows registration for a single day or the whole weekend. Please come, join in and experience the best computing equipment from the best manufacturer! Kind regards, Mark Wickens Event Organiser p.s. please forward this email to anyone else you think might be interested in attending!

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DEC Legacy 2015, Windermere UK, April 11/12th is just around the corner!

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Sincere Greetings This is a quick email to remind you that DEC Legacy 2015 is just around the corner! I've recently updated the web page with some exciting presentations and demonstrations including the following topics: VAX MP - Simulating a SMP VAX Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser Unearthing an important historical computer at the computer sheds museum Jim Austin, The Jim Austin Computer Collection Video Presentation Bernd 'vaxman' Ulmann An Update from the Living Computer Museum Rich Alderson, Senior System Engineer The MCPRINT Utility, 30 years in the making Malcolm Blunden, retired VMS Systems Manager The Future of VMS Sue Skonetski, VP of Customer Engagement, VMS Software Getting the DEC experience on modern hardware Peter Allan, ex VAX system manager and VMS programmer HECnet - A worldwide DECnet network Mark Wickens, DEC Legacy Organiser ... and there will be more yet to come. We also now have quite an impressive list of exhibits which I expect to continue to grow throughout the next month. Whatever your favourite era of DEC kit you are sure to find something of interest. The registration page allows registration for a single day or the whole weekend. Please come, join in and experience the best computing equipment from the best manufacturer! Kind regards, Mark Wickens Event Organiser p.s. please forward this email to anyone else you think might be interested in attending!

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Re: [Simh] Getting rsxs to run on the pdp11 emulator

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

Could it still be, like that manual suggests in section 2.2.1 on page 2-5, that it is indeed "BRUSYS Standalone Copy System and Layered Product Corrections"? I don't think so. Sounds more like someone did a backup of a just installed/booted system on tape... Oh, still haven't had much time to look at Kermit :( I'm not sure what tape image are you trying to install. Just did a quick test using this one: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… which seems to be the same you are using: $ ./pdp11 PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Beta git commit id: a67afa4a Disabling XQ sim> att tq BB-J0830-01.M01_RSX11M+_V4.6_1999.tap sim> b tq RSX-11M/RSX-11M-PLUS STANDALONE COPY SYSTEM V4.8 RSX-11M/RSX-11M-PLUS Standalone Configuration and Disk Sizing Program Valid switches are: /CSR=nnnnnn to change the default device CSR /VEC=nnn to change the default device vector /FOR=n to change the default magtape formatter number /DEV to list all default device CSR and vectors Enter first device: /DEV Device CSR Vector CSR Status ------ ------ ------ ---------- DB 176700 254 Present DK 177404 220 Present DL 174400 160 Present DM 177440 210 Present DP 176714 300 Present DR 176300 150 Not Present DU 172150 154 Present MM FOR=0 172440 330 Not Present MS 172522 224 Not Present MT 160000 320 Not Present MU 174500 260 Present Enter first device: MU0: Enter second device: U\U\FU\UF\DU0: Hit RETURN and enter date and time as 'TIM HH:MM MM/DD/YY' RUN BAD BAD>DU0: BAD -- DU0: Total bad blocks= 0. BAD>^Z Run BRU BRU> Simulation stopped, PC: 001344 (CLRB (R1)+) sim> att tq0 BB-J0830-01.L01_RSX11M+_V4.6_BRU_1999.tap sim> c From: BRU -- *FATAL* -- Syntax error BRU>/INIT MU0: DU0: BRU - Starting Tape 1 on MU0: BRU - End of Tape 1 on MU0: BRU - Completed BRU> Simulation stopped, PC: 001344 (CLRB (R1)+) sim> b rq RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 1024.KW System:"Baseline" RED DU:=SY: RED DU:=LB: (...) I have stopped here, but I have got a baseline system that I should be able to SYSGEN. The SIMH configuration I have used is quite simple: $ cat pdp11.ini set cpu 11/70 set cpu 2M att rq0 RD54.000 set tm disable Those are MSCP disks and tapes, visibles from RSX as MU: and DU: The emulated tape drive is a TK50, and the disk is a RRD54.

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