HECnet January 2013

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MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 1/9/2013 3:23 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: On 01/09/2013 03:21 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote: Uh...that's like three hours' drive in the opposite direction, one way. Ah. Disregard that then. Wonder if he'd be interested in shipping it ;) Meh, shipping. I never get around to that. :) True. Ever find that Transputer board? ;) Several times. :) -brian

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MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/09/2013 03:21 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote: Uh...that's like three hours' drive in the opposite direction, one way. Ah. Disregard that then. Wonder if he'd be interested in shipping it ;) Meh, shipping. I never get around to that. :) True. Ever find that Transputer board? ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 1/9/2013 3:15 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Uh...that's like three hours' drive in the opposite direction, one way. Ah. Disregard that then. Wonder if he'd be interested in shipping it ;) Meh, shipping. I never get around to that. :) -brian

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MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by b4＠gewt.net

On 9 Jan 2013, at 15:10, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/09/2013 01:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Get a Cisco. It's not like they're tough to find, or very expensive. And you'll use it essentially forever. (because it will last that long!) I've got this 4700 sitting here collecting dust. Now that I have the 1841, 1811w and 2851 I seriously doubt I'll ever touch the 4700 again. Come get it. :) Where would I need to go? ;) Easton, PA. If you aren't familiar with the area, about half way betten NYC and Philly. Dave's gonna be heading my way soon, perhaps he could pick it up and bring it here to me? It'd be easier than me going there. Uh...that's like three hours' drive in the opposite direction, one way. Ah. Disregard that then. Wonder if he'd be interested in shipping it ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

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HECnet performance....

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/09/2013 07:45 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote: McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> va escriure: I'd just like to say Thank You to everyone on the network for giving us all this huge plaything that we all dreamed of playing with a quarter of a century ago :) I strongly second this!! The awesomeness of all of you is beyond my ability to express in English! Mine too, and english is my native language! :) And mine to ***THANKS*** ... And sorry for commanding some changes on other peoples domains, I just wanted some baseline functionality and a second order redundancy that would kick in by itself if things starts to break.. That's certainly not a problem on my end. Peter, your background and contributions are well known here. (at least, I HOPE they are!) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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VMS 8.3 / 8.4 AXP installer ISO?

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:34 PM, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Anyone have one of these handy - the one on RHESUS is corrupted.. sampsa Hello! It is? When did that happen? And how? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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MOP vs. Cisco, was Re: [HECnet] _PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/09/2013 01:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Get a Cisco. It's not like they're tough to find, or very expensive. And you'll use it essentially forever. (because it will last that long!) I've got this 4700 sitting here collecting dust. Now that I have the 1841, 1811w and 2851 I seriously doubt I'll ever touch the 4700 again. Come get it. :) Where would I need to go? ;) Easton, PA. If you aren't familiar with the area, about half way betten NYC and Philly. Dave's gonna be heading my way soon, perhaps he could pick it up and bring it here to me? It'd be easier than me going there. Uh...that's like three hours' drive in the opposite direction, one way. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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HECnet performance....

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Two files, routers.csv that is basically the output of a walk of SHOW KNO CIRC: <fromname>,<fromarea>,<fromnode>,<fromcirc>,<toname>,<toarea>,<tonode>,<tocirc> Put cost on both sides in there we have a tool that can figure out path from A to B and from B to A. So how do I represent a LAN in your notation? (Psevdo node?) -P e.g.: CTAKAH,62,637,QNA-0,A1RTR,1,1023,UNKNOWN MIM,1,13,UNA-0,BENDER,12,2,UNKNOWN GORVAX,8,400,QNA-0,BENDER,12,2,UNKNOWN second file, end_nodes.csv (basically SHOW ADJ NODES): routername,routerarea,endptname,endptarea,endptnode e.g.: GORVAX,8,400,RHESUS,8,403 CTAKAH,62,637,COPOKA,62,4 sampsa On 9 Jan 2013, at 21:44, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: On 2013-01-09, at 11:40 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: The output format of the mapper is very simple, and we plan to run it like once a week, max. So if people in non-auto-mappable areas just send me their info in the relevant format, I can use that to complete the map. Just tell us the format, and it will be done :) Ian

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HECnet performance....

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote: True. DECnet is a private network technology, so the assumption is that it= can rely on correct management of the routers. And MTU size is one of the= things assumed to be done right. DEC's network for a long time used 576 a= s its MTU; I would assume even a 2020 can be set that way, how else could s= uch a node have existed on the DEC Easynet? paul 2020 can only do three hundred something, my memory fails on the exact number. Maybe it ended up being 376. It's not a problem as long as it's END NODE, decnet will negotiate the smaller numer. The doc said that it only suports ONE serial interface.... --P That makes sense, indeed for an end node the small MTU is no issue (other than the performance impact). That may be how the 2020 people got away with that implementation. paul

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HECnet performance....

by roll＠Stupi.SE

True. DECnet is a private network technology, so the assumption is that it= can rely on correct management of the routers. And MTU size is one of the= things assumed to be done right. DEC's network for a long time used 576 a= s its MTU; I would assume even a 2020 can be set that way, how else could s= uch a node have existed on the DEC Easynet? paul 2020 can only do three hundred something, my memory fails on the exact number. Maybe it ended up being 376. It's not a problem as long as it's END NODE, decnet will negotiate the smaller numer. The doc said that it only suports ONE serial interface.... --P

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