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[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 20:54
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
On 30 Jan 2013, at 03:52, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
GORVAX:: is setup to cover Europe
Well, EMEA, I hope to have a few SIMH VAXen running in Beirut ASAP.
sampsa
Let me re-phrase... GORVAX:: is designed to cover non-US sites as its
primary link. Happy now Sampsa? :-)
Multi-Watch does not care which nodes it connects to. I set Multinet
Tunnel costs lower on the primary link then on the secondary link.
Typical costs are "1" for primary and "2" for secondary. VMS machines
set LAN costs to 4 so priority is given to the Multinet Tunnels. The
tunnels can be anywhere between 4-10 times faster when copying files.
-Steve
On 29 Jan 2013, at 21:04, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
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[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 18:50
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
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On Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: 29 January 2013 23:25
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
2. Persuade someone who has a fixed IP to run the user mode
router, if you register your IP with something like DynDns then
the user mode router periodically checks for a change of IP.
Is the user mode router ready? I could deploy that..
[Rob Jarratt]
It has been used in a couple of configurations now and
seems to work
OK, I use it permanently now. You could try it and if it does not
work for you it is only seconds to switch back to the bridge.
Oh I was going to run the bridge as well, act as a sort of
connections
hub (Bridge, MULTINET on GORVAX and the user mode router).
What OS does the user mode router run on?
sampsa
It runs on Windows (as a Windows Service) and it runs on
linux (as a Daemon). I built the linux version on the
Raspberry Pi using a flavour of Debian. I think it has been
built on FreeBSD too.
Regards
Rob
Would it run on NetBSD???
I think you mean: "Would NetBSD run on it?" ;)
-Steve
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
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[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 18:50
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: 29 January 2013 23:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
2. Persuade someone who has a fixed IP to run the user mode
router, if you register your IP with something like DynDns then
the user mode router periodically checks for a change of IP.
Is the user mode router ready? I could deploy that..
[Rob Jarratt]
It has been used in a couple of configurations now and
seems to work
OK, I use it permanently now. You could try it and if it does not
work for you it is only seconds to switch back to the bridge.
Oh I was going to run the bridge as well, act as a sort of
connections
hub (Bridge, MULTINET on GORVAX and the user mode router).
What OS does the user mode router run on?
sampsa
It runs on Windows (as a Windows Service) and it runs on
linux (as a Daemon). I built the linux version on the
Raspberry Pi using a flavour of Debian. I think it has been
built on FreeBSD too.
Regards
Rob
Would it run on NetBSD???
-Steve
If you are running VMS then contact me offline and I will give you a
copy of my "field-test" procedures that maintain DECnet databases. It
makes use of MIM::[DECNET]NODENAMES.DAT. It will NOT update your area!
This is because some areas have VMS clusters and there is no guarantee
that LANACP is used for communications. If DECnet is used these
procedures will corrupt satellite node information in the DECnet
database for that cluster.
It does REQUIRE that SCSSYSTEMID matches the (<area>*1024)+<node>. So
if you have changed areas but have not updated SCSSYSTEMID the procedure
will NOT work.
-Steve
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[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 13:54
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: Ian McLaughlin
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet Area Request
On 2013-01-29 19:48, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Johnny
Did you manage to fix the problem with mim not reporting
the full node list? It's about time I grabbed an updated
copy (with all of the new additions) but I didn't want to
grab something that was corrupt.
I've been fighting MIM about that, but for some reason it
just will not cooperate. I have two solutons for you:
1. Copy each area as individual commands (MIM knows it all,
it just seems that the list of known nodes does not list all
known nodes now.
Bug in NCP methinks at this point...)
2. Grab MIM::US:[DECNET]FIX.CMD which contains all the DEFINE
commands for NCP for all the nodes, and run it in NCP on your machine.
I can create command files in other formats easily if there
are any special requests. Just let me know...
Johnny
Ian
On 2013-01-29, at 10:45 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-01-29 17:22, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 1/21/2013 5:36 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/21/2013 05:20 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
A17RTR:: would work... :)
Hey, that's a good scheme. I will likely do that as well.
Several areas already do that. :-)
Excellent. :-) Would you please remove "GW" at 61.1 and add
"A61RTR" as 61.1023?
Sign me up for that as well.
Please add A52RTR as 52.1023
Done.
Johnny
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[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 13:47
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: Pete Edwards
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
On 2013-01-29 18:35, Pete Edwards wrote:
Ok maybe I need to re-phrase the question.
My ISP now only offers me a dynamic IP address.
My understanding is that Johnny's bridge program is not tolerant of
changing IP addresses. Is that still the case?
Correct.
So based on Sampsa's answer I can connect via a Multinet tunnel and
there's at least one Hecnet member (Steve Davidson) who can
keep that
connected even if the IP address changes?
Correct.
Would that mean I need to move into another area or request
an area to myself?
You need to move to Steve's area, or set one up of your own.
Johnny
Or move to Sampsa's area.
-Steve
Top-posting on top of a top-posted reply :) On 29 January
2013 00:30,
<sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Well Steve Davidson has built a system for updating IP
addresses of MULTINET circuits - it seems to work pretty well.
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 02:29, Pete Edwards
<stimpy.u.idiot at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
After a rather suddenly enforced break over 2 years ago I'm in a
position where I can try and get back onto HECNET.
I've renewed my VMS PAKs and have a couple of simh VMS
7.3 instances up again.
Unfortunately when I dropped off back then I lost my
static IP, so
step one, I guess, is asking this: What are the current
best options
the group has found to deal with dynamic addresses?
Alas FLETCH (1.100), my VS4000/60 has suffered some kind of disk
trauma during the intervening 2 house moves so it might
be a while
before I can connect a physical system.
Nice to see the return of the mapping project too - rather more
elegant than my own short-lived efforts.
Cheers,
Pete
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in
Millets!" -
HMHB
On 30 Jan 2013, at 03:52, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
GORVAX:: is setup to cover Europe
Well, EMEA, I hope to have a few SIMH VAXen running in Beirut ASAP.
sampsa
The Multi-Watch procedures are by name. It relies on dynamic DNS. All
of this information is kept in a (very) simple, human-readable database.
GORVAX:: is setup to cover Europe and SG1:: is setup to cover the US.
That said, each machine does provide a backup link to certain machines
regardless of location.
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Paul_Koning at Dell.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
Can it handle connections by name, where the changing address
is handled through dynamic DNS? If so, you could use
dyndns.org or an equivalent service to get a fixed name for
your varying address.
paul
On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Pete Edwards wrote:
Ok maybe I need to re-phrase the question.
My ISP now only offers me a dynamic IP address.
My understanding is that Johnny's bridge program is not tolerant of
changing IP addresses. Is that still the case?
So based on Sampsa's answer I can connect via a Multinet tunnel and
there's at least one Hecnet member (Steve Davidson) who can
keep that
connected even if the IP address changes?
Would that mean I need to move into another area or request
an area to myself?
Top-posting on top of a top-posted reply :) On 29 January
2013 00:30,
<sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Well Steve Davidson has built a system for updating IP
addresses of MULTINET circuits - it seems to work pretty well.
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 02:29, Pete Edwards
<stimpy.u.idiot at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
After a rather suddenly enforced break over 2 years ago I'm in a
position where I can try and get back onto HECNET.
I've renewed my VMS PAKs and have a couple of simh VMS
7.3 instances up again.
Unfortunately when I dropped off back then I lost my
static IP, so
step one, I guess, is asking this: What are the current
best options
the group has found to deal with dynamic addresses?
Alas FLETCH (1.100), my VS4000/60 has suffered some kind of disk
trauma during the intervening 2 house moves so it might
be a while
before I can connect a physical system.
Nice to see the return of the mapping project too - rather more
elegant than my own short-lived efforts.
Cheers,
Pete
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in
Millets!" -
HMHB
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets!" -
HMHB
Pete,
The SG1:: and GORVAX:: machines run the Multi-Watch procedures so
connection is usually not a problem. I prefer that you have your own
area, but it is really not necessary. You can become part of either
area that furnishes the other end of the link. Your node will end up
becoming a router anyway - the only question is which area it will
belong to.
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Pete Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:36
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
Ok maybe I need to re-phrase the question.
My ISP now only offers me a dynamic IP address.
My understanding is that Johnny's bridge program is not
tolerant of changing IP addresses. Is that still the case?
So based on Sampsa's answer I can connect via a Multinet
tunnel and there's at least one Hecnet member (Steve
Davidson) who can keep that connected even if the IP address changes?
Would that mean I need to move into another area or request
an area to myself?
Top-posting on top of a top-posted reply :) On 29 January
2013 00:30, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Well Steve Davidson has built a system for updating IP
addresses of MULTINET circuits - it seems to work pretty well.
sampsa
On 29 Jan 2013, at 02:29, Pete Edwards
<stimpy.u.idiot at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
After a rather suddenly enforced break over 2 years ago I'm in a
position where I can try and get back onto HECNET.
I've renewed my VMS PAKs and have a couple of simh VMS 7.3
instances up again.
Unfortunately when I dropped off back then I lost my static IP, so
step one, I guess, is asking this: What are the current
best options
the group has found to deal with dynamic addresses?
Alas FLETCH (1.100), my VS4000/60 has suffered some kind of disk
trauma during the intervening 2 house moves so it might be a while
before I can connect a physical system.
Nice to see the return of the mapping project too - rather more
elegant than my own short-lived efforts.
Cheers,
Pete
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in
Millets!" -
HMHB
--
Pete Edwards
"There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in
Millets!" - HMHB
Mike,
I will be ready at this end when you are.
-Steve
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Michael Holmes
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:05
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] New HECnet Area Request
Thanks Johnny.
Steve,
I just got the OS installed late last night, so please be patient as I'll need to go and get the multinet SW and hobbyist license and before I can attempt to connect.
Once I get it all setup I'll send you my IP address and info to test a connection.
thanks.
> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:51:05 +0100
> From: bqt at softjar.se
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> CC: jeep at scshome.net; mholmes10 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [HECnet] New HECnet Area Request
>
> Mike, I'm putting area 39 to your name. Will Steve work for your connection?
>
> Johnny
>
> On 2013-01-29 11:55, Steve Davidson wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > Area 39 is available. If you decide to use Multinet Tunnels then configure it to connect to 69.21.253.158 and send me mail with your IP address. If it is a dynamic IP address then I will need to know the domain as well.
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Michael Holmes
> > Sent: Mon 1/28/2013 18:42
> > To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> > Subject: [HECnet] New HECnet Area Request
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My alphaserver 800 finally arrived and I'm setting it up now and would like to request a HECNET area so I experiment with connecting to HECNET.
> >
> > I saw a previous message listing available areas and I'd like to request area 39 if its not already spoken for.
> >
> > I finally found a SCSI drive that will work in it and am currently installing VMS 8.3 and DECNET IV on it right now.
> >
> > Hopefully will have it finished tonight and be able work on the HECNET options (router, etc) through the week and weekend.
> >
> > I also have a DEC 3000L and a multia that I'll try to bring back to life sometime later.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Alexandria, VA
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: 29 January 2013 23:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Returning to HECNET
2. Persuade someone who has a fixed IP to run the user mode router,
if you register your IP with something like DynDns then the user
mode router periodically checks for a change of IP.
Is the user mode router ready? I could deploy that..
[Rob Jarratt]
It has been used in a couple of configurations now and seems to work
OK, I use it permanently now. You could try it and if it does not work
for you it is only seconds to switch back to the bridge.
Oh I was going to run the bridge as well, act as a sort of connections hub
(Bridge, MULTINET on GORVAX and the user mode router).
What OS does the user mode router run on?
sampsa
It runs on Windows (as a Windows Service) and it runs on linux (as a
Daemon). I built the linux version on the Raspberry Pi using a flavour of
Debian. I think it has been built on FreeBSD too.
Regards
Rob
