On 16 Jan 2013, at 18:19, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
Is there coax in the place? If so look at MoCa devices. Works really well.
Yeah, there's coax, but not in the same room as the /main/ switch There is in another room though that has a switch too. The equipment in the basement is a short run away from the coax splitter down there so that's actually a good idea.
-brian
On Jan 16, 2013, at 17:12, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Hello!
I'm going to be moving some of my equipment to the basement here for several reasons (heat produced, noise, space, et cetera), and in planning i'm hitting a roadblock: networking.
I've come up with several ideas:
Wireless client-bridge: Linksys e1000 is garbage and doesn't like to pass DECnet or any of those protocols, so i'd either need a workaround or a better router. (workaround being: a virtual cisco tunnel to my other virtual cisco?) (Other router: /real/ Cisco or a another suggestion from someone on this list)
Powerline ethernet: Is this reliable yet? How are the transfer speeds?
Or: Adding a phone jack, getting DSL on the second line here. (installation costs, but would actually be $2 more/month to upgrade current plan + add a second identical plan not counting hardware rental fees, setup costs, and that stuff)
Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable.
Any (viable) options i'm missing?
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Is there coax in the place? If so look at MoCa devices. Works really well.
-brian
On Jan 16, 2013, at 17:12, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Hello!
I'm going to be moving some of my equipment to the basement here for several reasons (heat produced, noise, space, et cetera), and in planning i'm hitting a roadblock: networking.
I've come up with several ideas:
Wireless client-bridge: Linksys e1000 is garbage and doesn't like to pass DECnet or any of those protocols, so i'd either need a workaround or a better router. (workaround being: a virtual cisco tunnel to my other virtual cisco?) (Other router: /real/ Cisco or a another suggestion from someone on this list)
Powerline ethernet: Is this reliable yet? How are the transfer speeds?
Or: Adding a phone jack, getting DSL on the second line here. (installation costs, but would actually be $2 more/month to upgrade current plan + add a second identical plan not counting hardware rental fees, setup costs, and that stuff)
Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable.
Any (viable) options i'm missing?
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
If you run cable inside the heating ducts, make sure it's plenum rated (FT6).
Ian
On 2013-01-16, at 3:16 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/16/2013 05:37 PM, Dennis Boone wrote:
Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable.
"Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not
throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might
consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are
any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most
stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days.
Agreed. Wireless == suck. (and I design wireless comm gear for a
living!) Run the wires. You'll be glad you did.
One possibility might be running the cable through your heating ducts,
if your house has them. Lots of people have done that with great success.
-Dave
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On 01/16/2013 06:14 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
100m
That would work for running outside a house between floors I think. ;)
Be sure to either use a conduit or use outdoor-rated cable. If
sunlight hits standard Ethernet cable, the UV will destroy the outer
jacket in short order, and it will just crumble away. You'd be very
lucky if it lasted two summers.
-Dave
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On 16 Jan 2013, at 18:16, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 01/16/2013 05:37 PM, Dennis Boone wrote:
Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable.
"Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not
throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might
consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are
any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most
stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days.
Agreed. Wireless == suck. (and I design wireless comm gear for a
living!) Run the wires. You'll be glad you did.
One possibility might be running the cable through your heating ducts,
if your house has them. Lots of people have done that with great success.
That poses the challenge of getting the cable to go to the right place. ;)
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
On 01/16/2013 05:37 PM, Dennis Boone wrote:
Running cables all the way from the second floor isn't viable.
"Not viable to run cable" usually comes down to "too lazy". Not
throwing stones: I've been lazy about cabling too. But you might
consider bouncing the particulars off of the crowd to see if there are
any suggestions for overcoming the obstacles. Wired really is the most
stable and reliable, for all the wireless hoopla these days.
Agreed. Wireless == suck. (and I design wireless comm gear for a
living!) Run the wires. You'll be glad you did.
One possibility might be running the cable through your heating ducts,
if your house has them. Lots of people have done that with great success.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 16 Jan 2013, at 18:13, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote:
100m
That would work for running outside a house between floors I think. ;)
Ian
On 2013-01-16, at 2:58 PM, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote:
I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the
crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;)
The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :)
As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more
reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger
and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell
the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little
plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal.
De
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100m
Ian
On 2013-01-16, at 2:58 PM, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote:
I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the
crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;)
The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :)
As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more
reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger
and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell
the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little
plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal.
De
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On 16 Jan 2013, at 17:58, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote:
I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the
crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;)
The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :)
As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more
reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger
and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell
the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little
plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal.
What's the maximum length for cat5e/6?
De
I'm considering powerline as well instead of bugging someone to do the
crimping for me or running cables along the siding. ;)
The cableco will run cable outside; why shouldn't you? :)
As to crimping, don't. Buy patch cables. It's easier, and _far_ more
reliable. Individual punch down blocks are easier to get right, larger
and easier to see, and a neater solution. Home improvement stores sell
the little baseboard boxes and keystone jacks, and have cheap little
plastic tools for terminating the wire so the investment is minimal.
De
