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DMC11 in next simh version... looks nice, and question about TOPS-10

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/03/2013 10:22 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: Let's hope that the ANF-10 trick is enough! :) I just made another compile WITHOUT ANF-10 and now I have got no missing symbols. This begins to look somehow as black magic. Those symbols have to be getting defined somewhere. I am unfamiliar with the TOPS-10 monitor build procedure; did you do the equivalent of a "make clean" first? I will give up by now. :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

11 years, 10 months

DMC11 in next simh version... looks nice, and question about TOPS-10

by b4＠gewt.net

On 3 Jan 2013, at 10:22, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote: El 03/01/2013, a les 12:46, G. <gerry77 at mail.com> va escriure: Let's hope that the ANF-10 trick is enough! :) I just made another compile WITHOUT ANF-10 and now I have got no missing symbols. This begins to look somehow as black magic. Oh, and the startup crash shows up if I include any networking capability in the monitor, with or without KMC and DMR... I will give up by now. It's unfortunate both of us had to give up. :( Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

11 years, 10 months

DMC11 in next simh version... looks nice, and question about TOPS-10

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

El 03/01/2013, a les 12:46, G. <gerry77 at mail.com> va escriure: Let's hope that the ANF-10 trick is enough! :) I just made another compile WITHOUT ANF-10 and now I have got no missing symbols. This begins to look somehow as black magic. Oh, and the startup crash shows up if I include any networking capability in the monitor, with or without KMC and DMR... I will give up by now. Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

11 years, 10 months

DMC11 in next simh version... looks nice, and question about TOPS-10

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: El 03/01/2013, a les 9:33, G. <gerry77 at mail.com> va escriure: The Software Installation Guide lists a bunch of MONGEN questions related to DECnet on KS10s, asking for KMC/DUP or DMR hardware characteristics. A quick Google search seems to confirm that both KMC and DMR are very similar to DMC and software compatible with it. DMR should be a DMC enhancement/replacement. The KMC11 is a user programmable microcontroller that's the basis of the DMC11. But it's not a compatible replacement. Instead, the KMC was used as a co-processor to drive a "dumb interface" like the DUP11. So no, if you have a DMC or DMR, you do *not* call for KMC/DUP support in your monitor. paul

11 years, 10 months

Raspberry PI and PDP-11 emulation via SIMH

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

Add the VDE stuff first... I can't tell the full list of packages now. But it is worth to have! Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa El 03/01/2013, a les 13:50, sampsa at mac.com va escriure: Dated and no ethernet. Basically do this (as root): apt-get install build-essential apt-get build-dep simh <download SIMH sources and make>

11 years, 10 months

2.11BSD and E11

by b4＠gewt.net

On 3 Jan 2013, at 07:50, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 3 Jan 2013, at 03:26, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote: From: Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> I'm currently having a bit of trouble getting 2.11BSD working in E11 when using the prebuilt disk by neozeed from source forge: Looks like you're booting from tape? And installing onto what disk image? Yes, booting from tape with what appears to have been an incorrectly attached tape image. ;) Oops, incorrectly attached disk image, not tape. I couldn't find the tape image you're using. I did find what purports to be an RP06 image but it's actually slightly too small for that, so E11 auto-detects it as an RP05 and half of it vanishes. It boots up fine when the type is forced with "MOUNT DB: 211BSD /RP06". Ah. That would make sense. Buuuut, Massbus disks are disabled in the current E11 Demo versions. At this point that's an oversight (all but the RP07 are within the Demo version's size limit) so I'll uncripple that for the next release. I can't remember the last time anyone wanted to use the Massbus emulations! Otherwise I would have noticed and fixed this ages ago. Meanwhile if you can install onto an MSCP disk then life will be easy. Okay cool, thanks! I'll stage it on to an MSCP disk using simh and then copy the image over and see if that helps any. ;) Thanks for pointing this out! John Wilson D Bit -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

11 years, 10 months

2.11BSD and E11

by b4＠gewt.net

On 3 Jan 2013, at 03:26, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote: From: Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> I'm currently having a bit of trouble getting 2.11BSD working in E11 when using the prebuilt disk by neozeed from source forge: Looks like you're booting from tape? And installing onto what disk image? Yes, booting from tape with what appears to have been an incorrectly attached tape image. ;) I couldn't find the tape image you're using. I did find what purports to be an RP06 image but it's actually slightly too small for that, so E11 auto-detects it as an RP05 and half of it vanishes. It boots up fine when the type is forced with "MOUNT DB: 211BSD /RP06". Ah. That would make sense. Buuuut, Massbus disks are disabled in the current E11 Demo versions. At this point that's an oversight (all but the RP07 are within the Demo version's size limit) so I'll uncripple that for the next release. I can't remember the last time anyone wanted to use the Massbus emulations! Otherwise I would have noticed and fixed this ages ago. Meanwhile if you can install onto an MSCP disk then life will be easy. Okay cool, thanks! I'll stage it on to an MSCP disk using simh and then copy the image over and see if that helps any. ;) Thanks for pointing this out! John Wilson D Bit -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

11 years, 10 months

Raspberry PI and PDP-11 emulation via SIMH

by sampsa＠mac.com

On 3 Jan 2013, at 04:34, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: Either it is dated, or the raspbian repository lacks it entirely. I forget which. Dated and no ethernet. Basically do this (as root): apt-get install build-essential apt-get build-dep simh <download SIMH sources and make>

11 years, 10 months

LAT vs CTERM

by sampsa＠mac.com

On 2 Jan 2013, at 21:38, Kari Uusim ki <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org> wrote: Anyway, I assume CTERM isn't the best way to transfer files. Not really the point :) It's just that CTERM "felt" slower, I wanted to quantify so Kermit seemed handy. But I do in fact use Kermit as my default telnet client on my MBP, in case I just wanna do some quick ad-hoc transfers. sampsa

11 years, 10 months

DMC11 in next simh version... looks nice, and question about TOPS-10

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

El 03/01/2013, a les 12:46, G. <gerry77 at mail.com> va escriure: Let's hope that the ANF-10 trick is enough! :) Well, now the monitor compiles and links, but it crashes on startup: Stopcode EMA, type=STOP, on CPU0 at 3-Jan-113 13:35:03 CPU Status Block APRID = 470130,,010001 CONI APR, = 001060,,000070 CONI PI, = 000000,,000271 CONI PAG, = 000000,,060002 DATAI PAG, = 500100,,000004 Reload monitor [Dumping on DSKC:CRASH.EXE[1,4]] I've tried defining both a KMC11 and a DMR11 and I get the same crash. So I guess we are still without DECNET in the KS simulator... Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

11 years, 10 months

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