Of course there is still http://hecnet.eu
I'm a bit sad no-one else mentioned it :(
The good:
- WASD under VMS
- text based web pages (easy retro-editing)
- provides area and node lists
- endless possibilities for hooking website into hecnet when running on a node
The bad:
- on the end of an ADSL connection
- text based web pages (no web access for updates)
- not always up
If someone could provide a hecnet node with good bandwidth and uptime then something along these lines surely would make a lot of sense.
Of course a hecnet 'web-site' could be a happy marriage of modern hosting tech with wiki, CMS etc, and WASD giving stats on a VMS et al. box.
Mark.
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http://www.wickensonline.co.ukhttp://declegacy.org.uk
Okay I mentioned earlier (if my mail got through) about my site at DECtec.info. I'd be willing to throw my lot in with a potential decnet.org/HECnet effort as I can't realistically build a massive amount meaningful on DECtec.info myself so I'd like to put some work part of a community instead. I will keep the DECtec mailing list open though, perhaps we could offer it as a more general mailing list vs. the HECnet specific list here?
I have already produced and polished up a really nic DEC-esque skin in the later bugandy colour scheme for Mediawiki (see http://wiki.dectec.info/wiki/Main_Page) and it wouldn't take a lot of work to port it to a DEC blue version should you prefer a more retro look. I also have experience setting up and managing Mediawiki installations although I'm no class genius by a long way, but I do have the necessary knowledge to at least set up one and make some efforts to keep the spammers out provided I can work in concert with the server;'s admin to ensure the correct library support etc.
Count me in, at least for the Wiki side, and if you boil up a Wordpress blog I'll happily help with that too.
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Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
Dave McGuire wrote:
You don't run your own namservers? Jeeze. ;)
Of course I do, but only my own machines use it.
Nobody else on the Internet considers me authoritative ....
Bob
Johnny Billquist wrote:
(As a parenthesis, didn't someone do this a few years ago...?)
I did (the feature is built into Multinet, so it's not that hard), but
nobody ever used it (including me!) and I quit updating it.
So, what machine have you setup to do this?
Steve - want me to put in an MX record? What's your mail gateway
machine??
Bob
declab.net, houses all my "hobby" domains :-)
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Wed 6/27/2012 07:54
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] decnet.org
On 2012-06-27 13:40, Steve Davidson wrote:
My original plan was to make the domain available for all to receive email with either:
<username>@hecnet.org or
<username>@<DECnet-nodename>.hecnet.org (much easier to do BTW)
The web address was (is) an after-thought.
So, what machine have you setup to do this?
(As a parenthesis, didn't someone do this a few years ago...?)
Johnny
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tue 6/26/2012 22:06
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] decnet.org
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
Bob
My original plan was to make the domain available for all to receive email with either:
<username>@hecnet.org or
<username>@<DECnet-nodename>.hecnet.org (much easier to do BTW)
I'm running a PMDF mailserver on VMS which can gateway mail from the internet
to DECnet Mail-11. I could set it up to do this if there is interest.
The web address was (is) an after-thought.
I'm also running the OSU webserver but it looks like web hosting might be
addressed by others with more bandwidth. (I'm not great at providing content
either!).
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
I am also willing to point the web address anywhere else as long as it is a static IP address. If the destination site houses additional web sites, then I could even specify a port in addition to the address. I do not have time to create (or manage) an additional website, so someone else would have to take on that task.
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Steve Davidson
Sent: Wed 6/27/2012 07:40
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] decnet.org
My original plan was to make the domain available for all to receive email with either:
<username>@hecnet.org or
<username>@<DECnet-nodename>.hecnet.org (much easier to do BTW)
The web address was (is) an after-thought.
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tue 6/26/2012 22:06
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] decnet.org
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
Bob
On 2012-06-27 13:40, Steve Davidson wrote:
My original plan was to make the domain available for all to receive email with either:
<username>@hecnet.org or
<username>@<DECnet-nodename>.hecnet.org (much easier to do BTW)
The web address was (is) an after-thought.
So, what machine have you setup to do this?
(As a parenthesis, didn't someone do this a few years ago...?)
Johnny
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tue 6/26/2012 22:06
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] decnet.org
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
Bob
My original plan was to make the domain available for all to receive email with either:
<username>@hecnet.org or
<username>@<DECnet-nodename>.hecnet.org (much easier to do BTW)
The web address was (is) an after-thought.
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tue 6/26/2012 22:06
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] decnet.org
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
Bob
On 2012-06-27 06:18, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 06/26/2012 03:09 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a
blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
Actually, a Wiki with some documentation would be a great idea.
But it s the same answer I m just offering the domain name;
somebody else has to set up the machine and service.
I'll host it if everyone is cool for the low-end hosting that I use
(i.e. Dreamhost)..
They also do automatically updated mediawiki + wordpress installs so
that'll work.
I am NOT throwing stones at this idea at all, but if anyone would find
this of value, I run my own self-contained network here...beefy Solaris
machines with big redundant fibrechannel disk arrays, backed up to big
tape juke, backup power, separate database servers, local nameservers,
etc, all on industrial-grade non-PC hardware, in a commercial building,
and I do quite a bit of commercial and noncommercial hosting on this
network.
I would be happy to make as much space and bandwidth available as
needed. I just don't have a lot of time these days (I moved from FL to
PA to find work, and I found a lot more than I bargained for) so I don't
want to work on the content, but if others can do that, I can make
whatever network resources available that would be needed, gratis of
course, for the group. I suggest this because I consider this to be
"friendly territory" network-wise, rather than at the whim of some
corporation somewhere.
If you guys don't want to go that route for whatever reason, that's ok
too. Just wanted to extend the offer, as it's one of the few things I
can do to help, and not everyone has these sorts of resources.
Thanks for the offer.
Update have silly amounts of bandwidth, and all else as well. So what, from my point of view, is missing, is content. Which I too am reluctant to try.
Of course, as people might have seen, we're going to have Update out for a couple of days, starting later today. Sorry about that. A short notice need to move machines around in the computer hall.
Johnny
