Yes, there are only SCSI interfaces inside the Alpha Multia.
There has been a 340MB SCSI 2,5" drive as an option in some models.
I agree about the external disks, but if attaching a long cable (e.g. 10ft) and putting the disk box under the table can improve the looks. :)
Unfortunately the Multia was way too early for the customers. Nobody seemed to understand the the point with a minimal design.
A few years later it would have been a real success.
Kari
On 16.6.2012 19:07, Bob Armstrong wrote:
A 2,5" disk might produce a little less heat, but it seems to be too much
anyway.
Doesn't it require a SCSI disk, though? 2.5" SCSI disks are unobtanium
these days. And the Multia is such a cute little box - using it with
external drives ruins the whole effect.
I have a couple of UDBs/Multias too and way back when being able to run
"all three" operating systems (Windows, Unix and VMS) on the same hardware
was pretty amazing.
Bob
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El 11/06/2012, a les 13:43, gerry77 at mail.com va escriure:
able to find...
Please, note that I'm really not versed in TOPS-20 configurations so I shall
write about TOPS-10 only. :)
(...)
2) LAT. LAT works fine in TOPS-20. In TOPS-10 LCP tells me LAT is
active, but it does not work (does not even announce itself). How do I
enable LAT in TOPS-10?
Well, I'm using a homemade LAT-enabled monitor and I have the following in my
SYS:SYSTEM.CMD file (among other things):
(...)
(Notice the NORUN parameter!)
Thanks a lot. It kinda worked, but I got these messages when I tried to llogin:
$ llogin bitxt1
? INTTNF SYS:TTY.INI not found
BITXT1 19:54:50 TTY5 system 3600
Connected to Node Line # 770
.LOGIN 100,2
.R OPSER
[OPRPAF Processing auto command file]
?OPRALF LOOKUP failure 0
*
Well, I was able to figure out by myself. The SYS:TTY.INI file had (don't know why) <057> protection. I changed it to <055> and I got the familiar prompt after llogin.
So thanks-a-lot. :)
Anyway you'd still have to discover why your monitor has crashed... You can
see a log of your dumps by running CRSCPY interactively and giving it the
REPORT command at the CRSCPY> prompt.
One more thing to work on :)
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
A 2,5" disk might produce a little less heat, but it seems to be too much
anyway.
Doesn't it require a SCSI disk, though? 2.5" SCSI disks are unobtanium
these days. And the Multia is such a cute little box - using it with
external drives ruins the whole effect.
I have a couple of UDBs/Multias too and way back when being able to run
"all three" operating systems (Windows, Unix and VMS) on the same hardware
was pretty amazing.
Bob
Pi seems to be very interesting. I have to order one as well.
Speaking about the Multia; I've been playing with my Multias (166 & 233MHz) and found out that the rumors about it having thermal problems is true, but only when there is an internal disk drive. When using external disks, they haven't been overheating even if running Windows NT 4 for several hours. I think the development team was too ambitious when they placed a 3,5" drive inside the already crowded case. A 2,5" disk might produce a little less heat, but it seems to be too much anyway.
I'll do more testing soon like running VMS, Digital Unix, using add-in PCI boards, etc. A few years ago I installed and booted VMS and DigitalUnix. So both can be run on the Multia even with DECwindows.
If running the Multia without the (vertical) stand might cause more thermal load inside the case. Haven't tried that so far, but that's worth testing as well.
If anyone is interested, I can send him more information.
Kari
On 14.6.2012 9:46, Boyanich, Alastair wrote:
I see. I would've imagined they were worse. I do recall early in the
piece when the 233 ev45 (?) multia came out to replace the 166Mhz one, I
was called in when one went fut in the office at "Not Nice O'Clock" as
one was left on with NT4.0 and the "Okay to power off" (or what ever the
message was) screen which had been shutdown by one of our punters and
the idle loop was a busy one which after many hours of max current draw
had allowed the machine to put in a credible impersonation of the
Chernobyl disaster and had emitted enough toxins to trip the fire alarm.
There was words spoken with the employee and a call to DEC who amazingly
replaced it on the quiet. I suspect they were worried about fires in
offices for a while.
Al.
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On 14 Jun 2012, at 00:45, Boyanich, Alastair wrote:
Someone needs to revive the VT525 case and make a DEC Multia again
with
an i7 in it. Should last about the same length of time thermally. :P
Al.
Actually, with the right fans, a Multia-shape/size case would be fine
with a n i7
in. They are very thermally efficient.
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On 06/15/2012 07:24 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
Incidentally Dave and Sampsa, those yeti outside your places have
decided to spend the rest of the season there.
Excellent.
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> wrote:
Settled on TARDIS now, as that is what the case for it will be.
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote:
On 15 Jun 2012, at 18:18, Tony Blews wrote:
Goshdarn it. Now I'll need to use my limited imagination to come up with
a new name!
How about VAXBRY (contraction of VAXberry)? :)
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Hello!
For now. Given time I might have someone online and driving everyone
even more off the wall.
Incidentally Dave and Sampsa, those yeti outside your places have
decided to spend the rest of the season there.
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Settled on TARDIS now, as that is what the case for it will be.
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote:
On 15 Jun 2012, at 18:18, Tony Blews wrote:
> Goshdarn it. Now I'll need to use my limited imagination to come up with a new name!
How about VAXBRY (contraction of VAXberry)? :)
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On 15 Jun 2012, at 18:18, Tony Blews wrote:
Goshdarn it. Now I'll need to use my limited imagination to come up with a new name!
How about VAXBRY (contraction of VAXberry)? :)
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On 06/15/2012 12:51 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
How much do you have left to do to get the PDP-10 fired up? I haven't
seen that thing in forever. :)
I have to get an operational RM03. This is proving difficult. :-(
FYI: An RM02 will work too. Just a little slower...
Unfortunately they're just as rare anymore. :-(
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
Goshdarn it. Now I'll need to use my limited imagination to come up with a new name!
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote:
On 15 Jun 2012, at 07:35, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>> 3. Can it be called "PIVAX"?
>
> There don't seem to exist a PIVAX today, so sure.
I am using PIVAX(n) as my cluster nodes. I'd suggest avoiding it to
prevent confusion. :)
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