Hi Dave,
My IGS has even older software - 10.0(6) but it seems happy to accept
decnet configuration commands. It also allows me to configure a tunnel
interface so hopefully it will do the job. It seems to be running ok after
I reseated the SIMMs but I want to leave it on test for a while to make sure.
This is great news! They're good machines.
I'd be happy to do some tunnel testing with you if that would be helpful.
The IGS has behaved itself for several hours now. Peter Lothberg and I have
successfully set up a tunnel between us.
My ip address is decnet.beyondthepale.ie [213.94.231.131] - let me know what
your's is and I'll set up a tunnel to you.
I can't find any reference to the processor speed anywhere.
It;s not show anywhere except in data sheets .. -:)
I eventually found it written on the 68020 :-)
Assuming they're running it full-bore..
I could check with the oscilloscope but I'm happy to accept Alastair's word
that it runs at 16MHz :-)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
On 05/01/2012 08:49 AM, Peter Coghlan wrote:
My IGS has even older software - 10.0(6) but it seems happy to accept
decnet configuration commands. It also allows me to configure a tunnel
interface so hopefully it will do the job. It seems to be running ok after
I reseated the SIMMs but I want to leave it on test for a while to make sure.
This is great news! They're good machines.
I'd be happy to do some tunnel testing with you if that would be helpful.
I can't find any reference to the processor speed anywhere.
It;s not show anywhere except in data sheets .. -:)
I eventually found it written on the 68020 :-)
Assuming they're running it full-bore..
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3000 Software (IGS-BPRX), Version 10.0(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1994 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 25-Oct-94 19:01 by dougs
cisco IGS (68020) processor (revision A) with 4092K/512K bytes of memory.
So this is a "Pancake", square box that opens so the bottom comes out
with a plastic latch.
Yes - it looks like a slightly flattened VAX 2000 with three LEDs on the front.
A 25xx is a 1U rack mount thing.
With a noisy fan too? I had some of these at work but I forget the more recent
stuff more quickly than I forget the older stuff :-)
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c)XB1, PLATFORM SPECIFIC RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
BOOTFLASH: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c)XB1,
PLATFORM SPECIFIC RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
System image file is "flash:c2500-ds-l.112-26.P7.bin", booted via
flash
cisco AS2511-RJ (68030) processor (revision K) with 14336K/2048K bytes
of memory.
This very old SW runs DECnet in GRE tunnels... -:) (But it will not
fit in the 3000 with 4M memory. My mamemory fails me if it ws possible
to put 4M modules in the IGS/3000, I think the answer is no.)
My IGS has even older software - 10.0(6) but it seems happy to accept
decnet configuration commands. It also allows me to configure a tunnel
interface so hopefully it will do the job. It seems to be running ok after
I reseated the SIMMs but I want to leave it on test for a while to make sure.
I can't find any reference to the processor speed anywhere.
It;s not show anywhere except in data sheets .. -:)
I eventually found it written on the 68020 :-)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
On 1.5.2012 7:26, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 04/29/2012 04:14 AM, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
DECnet must have been around at least from 1993, because the
DECbrouter90's, which were practically Cisco routers in a DEChub90
module, were introduced in 1993. And they used IOS.
Did you mean DECnet support in IOS, or DECnet itself? DECnet itself
dates to the mid-1970s.
I meant the DECnet support in IOS.
I don't have older documentation than from the DECbrouter90 initial manuals which were dealing with IOS 9.14. Therefore I don't know how long time ago DECnet became supported in IOS.
What I haven't found out is when the IP tunnels were introduced in the
IOS. It seems to be in IOS 11.2. So it is included in all recent
versions, but the Cisco 2500's have limited flash and RAM capabilites.
Therefore the recent IOS's cannot be used with older hardware. I suppose
the IOS 11.2 should be sufficient for tunneling DECnet over IP.
I'll bet much older releases than that would support this.
The 9.14 documentation doesn't mention other kind of tunneling than Serial tunnneling which was used for IBM protocols.
Maybe other protocols can be tunneled as well. Don't know and haven't tested.
The IOS Reference guide for IOS V11.2 does describe IP tunneling so it is included in that version for sure.
I have to check which versions I have on my 2500's. Most probably they
have an IP-only version of the IOS. I bought the 2500's cheap from a
local broker a few years ago.
I've got lots of IOS images if needed. Let me know if I can help.
-Dave
Thanks, I'll check the versions I have. If they aren't multiprotocol versions, I contact you about the images.
Regards,
Kari
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3000 Software (IGS-BPRX), Version 10.0(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1994 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 25-Oct-94 19:01 by dougs
cisco IGS (68020) processor (revision A) with 4092K/512K bytes of memory.
So this is a "Pancake", square box that opens so the bottom comes out
with a plastic latch.
A 25xx is a 1U rack mount thing.
They share mostly the same code, so things can look oddly confucing,
on a 1U 2511, it says the boot is for a IGS/3000 box...
Router#sh hard
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-DS-L), Version 11.2(26)P7, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 09-Jun-04 00:06 by hqluong
Image text-base: 0x03038FBC, data-base: 0x00001000
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c)XB1, PLATFORM SPECIFIC RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
BOOTFLASH: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c)XB1,
PLATFORM SPECIFIC RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
System image file is "flash:c2500-ds-l.112-26.P7.bin", booted via
flash
cisco AS2511-RJ (68030) processor (revision K) with 14336K/2048K bytes
of memory.
This very old SW runs DECnet in GRE tunnels... -:) (But it will not
fit in the 3000 with 4M memory. My mamemory fails me if it ws possible
to put 4M modules in the IGS/3000, I think the answer is no.)
And don't get to confuced, a 3000 was a 25xx painted white and it can
do 16M, but the original IGS (bigger box) can not do more than 4M.
I can't find any reference to the processor speed anywhere.
It;s not show anywhere except in data sheets .. -:)
-P
(Nor do I know a TOPS-20 equivalent, but I would like to...)
As T10 and T20 shares the same code, the answer is the same for both:
it dont have such a command.
The command can be added(#63621873 on my list of things to do) but
it's still not to usefull as T10/T20 do not have the concept of a
permanent database for DECnet. As there are monitor calls to talk to
DECnet there is a small program "NODNAM.EXE" that reads
INI:NODNAMN.INI and loads the internal DECnet data structures...
nodnamn.ini can have both "set" and "define" lines..
set node 1.13 name nim
define node 1.13 name nim
--P
Wow, that's odd. I have no idea why that'd be happening.
In this case thay think the own you and you get the cnnectivity that
they decide you should have, with the performance they decide....
(as they are only a local US network with a captive audience...)
Excellent, thank you! I have routes for area 59 via Reston.
Cool.. set host sol::
$in decnet
$in arpanet
-Peter
By the way, I hope you know that VMS can copy the nodename database
directly from another machine without you having to hack files on your
own, if that is the reason why you asked for a file...
....that's why it's VMSnet.. (Cterm sends QIO calls...)
$opr
OPR>ent ncp
NCP>?
ENTER EXIT PUSH RETURN TAKE WAIT
CANCEL CLEAR DEFINE DUMP HELP LIST LOAD
LOOP PURGE SET SHOW TELL TRIGGER ZERO
$
$in ver
** SC-40 Sol.Stupi.SE **, TOPS-20 Monitor 7(21733)
TOPS-20 Command processor 7(4453)-3
Program is OPR, version is 6(7134)
--P
Ah dear. That'll be the ones then. Rather loud paddle-blowers in them as
I recall.
Think I have some breeding in a dusty corner somewhere.
Al.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Peter Coghlan
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012 9:08 AM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] GRE tunnel working!
Hi Peter.. when is this the IGS's that have a 16Mhz m68020 in them? I
think I've got one or two (Although I've not dug that deep in over a
decade).
At startup, it says:
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3000 Software (IGS-BPRX), Version 10.0(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1994 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 25-Oct-94 19:01 by dougs
cisco IGS (68020) processor (revision A) with 4092K/512K bytes of
memory.
I can't find any reference to the processor speed anywhere.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
