On 03/17/2012 04:30 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
As other have said - welcome.
Thank you!
I looked at GRE several years ago, but could not make head or tails of
it for the requrements of DECnet, so I gave up on that.
Ok. I'm pretty sure Brian told me that some of the HECnet areas were connected via GRE, but I (or he) may be mistaken. Either way, I know Brian spent some time on it a few weeks ago but was looking for someone to run some tests with. He seems to have disappeared (he does that from time to time ;)) but when he comes up for air I can work on that with him. If we can get it working, we'll share configs etc in case anyone else needs that info.
The bridge program that I wrote does something more or less equivalent.
Most of HECnet is either using the bridge, or else DECnet over IP on VMS
running Multinet.
Ok. I could install Multinet on my DS10L, but I'm already running the DEC IP stack on there...not sure if I can remove that and then install Multinet, or if I'd have to reload the machine. (which would be fine, it's a relatively recent install and I don't have much on there yet)
I don't know the physical location of Steve Davidson, but I bet he can
tell, and help you get connected...
Sounds good, I'll wait for him to pipe up. Thanks!
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
Dave, I made a kind of map of HECnet. It is actually an excel spreadsheet where each column represents a timezone.
That file is hosted on www.hecnet.eu (IIIRC). With that file you can figure out the nearest hub.
Hans Vlems
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Thank you! I'm told that Steve Davidson runs the big hub on the US
East coast. Ideally I'd like to get online via a GRE tunnel. Can
anyone offer any advice on how to get started? I don't know the the
organizational structure is here.
-Dave
On 03/17/2012 02:00 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Hi Dave... welcome!
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com
<mailto:setala at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dave,
Welcome to play!
--Saku (Area #11)
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
As other have said - welcome.
I looked at GRE several years ago, but could not make head or tails of it for the requrements of DECnet, so I gave up on that.
The bridge program that I wrote does something more or less equivalent. Most of HECnet is either using the bridge, or else DECnet over IP on VMS running Multinet.
There might also be someone able to do Cisco DECnet over IP, not sure.
I don't know the physical location of Steve Davidson, but I bet he can tell, and help you get connected...
Johnny
On 2012-03-17 13.19, Dave McGuire wrote:
Thank you! I'm told that Steve Davidson runs the big hub on the US East
coast. Ideally I'd like to get online via a GRE tunnel. Can anyone offer
any advice on how to get started? I don't know the the organizational
structure is here.
-Dave
On 03/17/2012 02:00 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Hi Dave... welcome!
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com
<mailto:setala at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dave,
Welcome to play!
--Saku (Area #11)
Thank you! I'm told that Steve Davidson runs the big hub on the US East coast. Ideally I'd like to get online via a GRE tunnel. Can anyone offer any advice on how to get started? I don't know the the organizational structure is here.
-Dave
On 03/17/2012 02:00 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Hi Dave... welcome!
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com
<mailto:setala at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dave,
Welcome to play!
--Saku (Area #11)
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hi folks! I think I'm acquainted with some of you, but for those who don't know me from other places, my name is Dave McGuire, and I'm a DECaholic. =) I'm a DEC hack from way back, having cut my teeth on a PDP-11/34a running RSX-11M and later RSTS/E almost thirty years ago. Years ago I was a commercial VMS sysadmin. PDP-11s and RSTS/E are my biggest passions, but I'm basically a fan of most things DEC. For a living, I'm an embedded systems developer; I design hardware and write firmware.
I recently acquired a commercial building near Pittsburgh, and am slowly constructing a "living" computer museum here. I'm working on the nonprofit paperwork now, and hope to have it open to the public in a year or so. I have lots of fun hardware here; several PDP-8s, countless PDP-11s and VAXen, two PDP-10s, some big IBM iron, several Cray supercomputers, and many more. Many of them are functional, more every day as I get more "oscilloscope time".
Brian Hechinger and Sridhar Ayengar are old friends of mine, and they've mentioned HECnet to me several times over the years, but now it's time. I have a Cisco 7206VXR with DECnet enabled, Brian helped me out by allocating area #61, and I'm running two DECnet-connected machines 24x7: my desktop machine running Linux and an AlphaServer DS10L running VMS. I run other machines as time permits.
So...Can I play too? :-)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 3/5/2012 11:10 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
At 9:29 AM -0500 3/5/12, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 3/3/2012 9:05 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Does anything need to be setup on tempo.update.uu.se?
Yes. They need to add you on that end.
Guess this is what I get for not having a system online on HECnet for a couple years. :-)
Which is why you asked. :-D
I'm currently trying to get VAX/VMS v5.5 running under SIMH, which I in turn have running under Ubuntu 11.10 which is running in Parallels Desktop 7 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (I suspect I might be crazy for trying that combo).
Why not just run simh directly on OSX?
Can the Mac telnet/ssh into the SIMH emulator if it's running directly on SIMH? Besides by running under Parallels, I can do things like suspend the emulation if I need to free up resources on my Mac.
I don't see why not. The suspending thing is definitely nice, but it's not like it's that hard to shut down VMS. :-D
On a positive note, I figured out how to get networking working, and currently have it running OpenVMS 7.3 and TCPIP. OTOH, SIMH blows up when I try to FTP the latest Multinet release into SIMH.
Well, that's good news anyway. :-D
As to it blowing up, that's less good. :-/
-brian
At 9:29 AM -0500 3/5/12, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 3/3/2012 9:05 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Does anything need to be setup on tempo.update.uu.se?
Yes. They need to add you on that end.
Guess this is what I get for not having a system online on HECnet for a couple years. :-)
I'm currently trying to get VAX/VMS v5.5 running under SIMH, which I in turn have running under Ubuntu 11.10 which is running in Parallels Desktop 7 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (I suspect I might be crazy for trying that combo).
Why not just run simh directly on OSX?
Can the Mac telnet/ssh into the SIMH emulator if it's running directly on SIMH? Besides by running under Parallels, I can do things like suspend the emulation if I need to free up resources on my Mac.
On a positive note, I figured out how to get networking working, and currently have it running OpenVMS 7.3 and TCPIP. OTOH, SIMH blows up when I try to FTP the latest Multinet release into SIMH.
Zane
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On 3/3/2012 9:05 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
I really hate to admit this, but it's been so long since I've run the bridge, that I don't remember how to start it. I know there is a new version, I've downloaded it and built it.
Does anything need to be setup on tempo.update.uu.se?
Yes. They need to add you on that end.
I'm currently trying to get VAX/VMS v5.5 running under SIMH, which I in turn have running under Ubuntu 11.10 which is running in Parallels Desktop 7 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (I suspect I might be crazy for trying that combo).
Why not just run simh directly on OSX?
-brian