On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:12:05 +0000 (WET), you wrote:
VAX/VMS V5.5-2 does not have the /APPLICATION qualifier to SET HOST so
outgoing RTERM connections are not possible from it.
I'd like to add my two cents. :)
| Password:
| Welcome to VAX/VMS version V4.7 on node FLORRY
| Last interactive login on Sunday, 28-OCT-2012 13:56
| Last non-interactive login on Sunday, 8-JAN-2012 09:19
| $ set host rsts
| %REM-I-REMOTE, connection established to remote node RSTS::
| RSTS V10.1-L 31-Oct-12 05:05 PM
| User:
I think that VAX/VMS V4.7 does first try with CTERM and then, upon receiving
no answer (i.e. receiving a disconnect with a "unrecognized object" reason),
it falls back to RTERM. Actually there is a noticeable delay while it does try
both protocols. Once connected, you can tell which protocol it's using because
if you hit CTRL/P you get a RTERM specific prompt that does not appear when
you are in a CTERM session. On the other hand, CTRL/Y works only with CTERM.
| Valid commands:
|
| ^x Send a CTRL/x to remote node
| CO[NTINUE] Return to terminal mode
| CL[OSE] Close any logging file
| CT[RL/P] Send a CTRL/P to remote node
| EX[IT] Exit remote terminal session
| HE[LP] Type this help message
| LO[G] file Create and use the logging file
| NO[RMAL] Restore NORMAL mode
| OD[T] Enter ODT mode
|_FLORRY::REM>
HTH, :)
G.
On 31 Oct 2012, at 18:06, Cory Smelosky wrote:
And a backup DECnet-over-avian-carrier
Ahh, the ever popular Ad-Decnet Al-Hamam Az-Zajil implementation.
Or ADA7AZ as I like to call it..
(That's an aspirated H on the hamam and an alef between the two meems, of course).
On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I _demand_ a set of HECnet satellite transponders onto some satellites in geostationary orbit now.
We can't have this kind of stuff disturb our valuable traffic.
We also need undersea cables and redundant leased lines dedicated to area-to-area HECnet communication.
And a backup DECnet-over-avian-carrier/DECnet-over-semaphore network..
Sampsa
On 31 Oct 2012, at 14:16, Joe Ferraro wrote:
If we only had the HF Radio DECnet link figured out... ;)
Hope everything is okay for you and yours Steve (when you are able to read this)....
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
Hi all
Got word from Steve Davidson in NH (USA) that he is without Internet access most likely due to what is left of Sandy. He'll advise when he's back on the "air".
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
I _demand_ a set of HECnet satellite transponders onto some satellites in geostationary orbit now.
We can't have this kind of stuff disturb our valuable traffic.
Sampsa
On 31 Oct 2012, at 14:16, Joe Ferraro wrote:
If we only had the HF Radio DECnet link figured out... ;)
Hope everything is okay for you and yours Steve (when you are able to read this)....
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
Hi all
Got word from Steve Davidson in NH (USA) that he is without Internet access most likely due to what is left of Sandy. He'll advise when he's back on the "air".
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
If we only had the HF Radio DECnet link figured out... ;)
Hope everything is okay for you and yours Steve (when you are able to read this)....
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
Hi all
Got word from Steve Davidson in NH (USA) that he is without Internet access most likely due to what is left of Sandy. He'll advise when he's back on the "air".
Fred
----
Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a
polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they
prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.
I can successfully connect from a VAX (4000-700a) running VMS v7.3 to
the PDP-11/53 (again, running RSTS/E v10.1) via:
$ set host/appl=rterm 61.4
Terminal control is a bit wonky, but it works. This is what crashes
from the Alpha running VMS v8.3.
I can also add that
$ set host/appl=rterm 61.4
crashes out in a similar way on an Alpha running V8.2. However, it can be used
to successfully connect to a VAX running VAX/VMS V5.5-2. On the other hand,
VAX/VMS V5.5-2 does not have the /APPLICATION qualifier to SET HOST so
outgoing RTERM connections are not possible from it.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Hello!
I went back to that same Wikipedia page, cf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-11 and making my way further down and
after the PDT-11 family I found that crowd:
SBC 11/21 (boardname KXT11) Falcon and Falcon Plus single board
computer on a Qbus card implementing the basic PDP-11 instruction set,
based on T11 chipset containing 32 KB static RAM, two ROM sockets,
three serial lines, 20 bit parallel I/O, three interval timers and a
two-channel DMA controller. Up to 14 Falcons could be placed into one
Qbus system.
KXJ11 QBUS card (M7616) with PDP-11 based peripheral processor and
DMA controller. Based on a J11 CPU equipped with 512 kB RAM, 64 kB ROM
and parallel and serial interfaces.
What I am thinking of is taking one of each and putting them into a
card cage. Of course the other issue that's, ah, fuzzy at best, is
finding them. The page also shows individual processors, the F-11 or
the J-11 ones.
Again group I am only thinking here. The incredibly big problem is
still the obvious, that of finding them, and then a card cage. And no
I've not even got a basket of clews here to explain where I am going
with this one.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
JOHN! You're alive! How have you been?
Totally sidetracked with scatterbrained hardware projects!
(Anyone who hasn't at least *looked* at the XMOS XS1 microcontroller
has been WASTING THEIR LIFE! They are exceedingly cool, and perfect
for bit-banging weird things like old DEC busses.) Clearly I've been
missing a lot of fun HECnet chatter. How's life with you?
I'm just accustomed to RSTS/E and RSX-11M, "big" OSs. Little ones don't
really do much for me. That's all.
Actually I have the same bias, so adjusting to RT after an earlier RSTS life
was a shock, but the way the tiny pieces fit together is really beautiful.
.READC/.WRITC and .SPND/.RSUM are trivially simple but getting the same
functionality on a supposedly "modern" OS is such a pain...
John Wilson
D Bit
I can successfully connect from a VAX (4000-700a) running VMS v7.3 to
the PDP-11/53 (again, running RSTS/E v10.1) via:
$ set host/appl=rterm 61.4
Terminal control is a bit wonky, but it works. This is what crashes
from the Alpha running VMS v8.3.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
