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So who's looking forward to all the cheap second-hand Itanium gear that will soon be flooding the market?

by sampsa＠mac.com

I am for one :) Sampsa http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/16/hp_oracle_itanium_lawsuit_drilldown/

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SIMH VAX Project

by jeep＠scshome.net

And... GORVAX:: is twice the speed of a real 3900 that it emulates! SGC:: is about equal to the speed of a real 3900 and it takes for ever for SSH to come up so I no longer use it. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 14:12 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] SIMH VAX Project On GORVAX, Multinet's SSHD takes about 2-3 mins to get through the login. Using SSH2. SSH1 was a bit faster but is not exactly secure. Sampsa On 4 Jul 2011, at 19:10, Mark Wickens wrote: On 04/07/2011 19:04, Peter Coghlan wrote: I don't think that Compaq have any version of SSH for VMS om VAX, but I haven't checked if anything was shipped after 7.3. There are other options, though. tcpware comes to mine. I was thinking TCPWare too - seems to be the only reference I can find to SSH on 7.3. Doesn't Multinet also provide SSH on VAX? It's definately there in the Alpha version. Regards, Peter Coghlan. Yes, SSH works on the VAX, although each login takes a little while to kick in. There is a patch which needed to be applied if I remember correctly. Mark.

13 years, 4 months

SIMH VAX Project

by sampsa＠mac.com

On GORVAX, Multinet's SSHD takes about 2-3 mins to get through the login. Using SSH2. SSH1 was a bit faster but is not exactly secure. Sampsa On 4 Jul 2011, at 19:10, Mark Wickens wrote: On 04/07/2011 19:04, Peter Coghlan wrote: I don't think that Compaq have any version of SSH for VMS om VAX, but I haven't checked if anything was shipped after 7.3. There are other options, though. tcpware comes to mine. I was thinking TCPWare too - seems to be the only reference I can find to SSH on 7.3. Doesn't Multinet also provide SSH on VAX? It's definately there in the Alpha version. Regards, Peter Coghlan. Yes, SSH works on the VAX, although each login takes a little while to kick in. There is a patch which needed to be applied if I remember correctly. Mark.

13 years, 4 months

SIMH VAX Project

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 04/07/2011 19:04, Peter Coghlan wrote: I don't think that Compaq have any version of SSH for VMS om VAX, but I haven't checked if anything was shipped after 7.3. There are other options, though. tcpware comes to mine. I was thinking TCPWare too - seems to be the only reference I can find to SSH on 7.3. Doesn't Multinet also provide SSH on VAX? It's definately there in the Alpha version. Regards, Peter Coghlan. Yes, SSH works on the VAX, although each login takes a little while to kick in. There is a patch which needed to be applied if I remember correctly. Mark.

13 years, 4 months

SIMH VAX Project

by HECNET＠beyondthepale.ie

I don't think that Compaq have any version of SSH for VMS om VAX, but I haven't checked if anything was shipped after 7.3. There are other options, though. tcpware comes to mine. I was thinking TCPWare too - seems to be the only reference I can find to SSH on 7.3. Doesn't Multinet also provide SSH on VAX? It's definately there in the Alpha version. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

13 years, 4 months

Mac terminal issues...

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-07-04 19.30, Mark Benson wrote: On 4 Jul 2011, at 08:43, Mark Wickens wrote: On 04/07/11 00:27, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2011-07-04 01.22, Mark Benson wrote: On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote: No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac. Weelll... it sorta works. Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be. I should probably point out that PF1 (Gold) is mapped to F1 on your keyboard. So it is not located at the same physical place as on a DEC terminal... Try F2, to get some help perhaps? Johnny For 'Do' you can always use Ctrl-B as a fallback - that's what I do when I don't have the right keyboard connected. Great - those were the two things I was missing! Is there anything I can do to fix the 'Backspace returns ti the start of the line' niggle. Normally either backspace or delete work okay for backspacing 1 character at a time but in xterm neither works as expected. That's because your options in xterm is wrong. :-) You can configure xterm to send either BS or DEL when you hit that key above CR. You want it to send DEL. It's only nitwits who think that backspace should delete. :-) Johnny

13 years, 4 months

Mac terminal issues...

by md.benson＠gmail.com

On 4 Jul 2011, at 08:43, Mark Wickens wrote: On 04/07/11 00:27, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2011-07-04 01.22, Mark Benson wrote: On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote: No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac. Weelll... it sorta works. Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be. I should probably point out that PF1 (Gold) is mapped to F1 on your keyboard. So it is not located at the same physical place as on a DEC terminal... Try F2, to get some help perhaps? Johnny For 'Do' you can always use Ctrl-B as a fallback - that's what I do when I don't have the right keyboard connected. Great - those were the two things I was missing! Is there anything I can do to fix the 'Backspace returns ti the start of the line' niggle. Normally either backspace or delete work okay for backspacing 1 character at a time but in xterm neither works as expected. -- Mark Benson My Blog: <http://markbenson.org/blog> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mdbenson "Never send a human to do a machine's job..."

13 years, 4 months

Mac terminal issues...

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 04/07/11 00:27, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2011-07-04 01.22, Mark Benson wrote: On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote: No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac. Weelll... it sorta works. Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be. I should probably point out that PF1 (Gold) is mapped to F1 on your keyboard. So it is not located at the same physical place as on a DEC terminal... Try F2, to get some help perhaps? Johnny For 'Do' you can always use Ctrl-B as a fallback - that's what I do when I don't have the right keyboard connected. Mark.

13 years, 4 months

Mac terminal issues...

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-07-04 01.22, Mark Benson wrote: On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote: No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac. Weelll... it sorta works. Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be. I should probably point out that PF1 (Gold) is mapped to F1 on your keyboard. So it is not located at the same physical place as on a DEC terminal... Try F2, to get some help perhaps? Johnny

13 years, 4 months

Mac terminal issues...

by md.benson＠gmail.com

On 3 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Johnny Billquist wrote: No need. As soon as you switch to X-windows, you also need to switch to some X-based application. As xterm exists, it should be the obvious choice, and it works correct straight out of the box, even on a Mac. Weelll... it sorta works. Most of the keypad keys either do something, make EVE bitch about them being unassigned, or do unexpected things. Also, I'm still not positive that the GOLD key thing is working, nor can I find the Do key in EVE. It's not in either place the OpenVMS manual says it should be. -- Mark Benson My Blog: <http://markbenson.org/blog> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mdbenson "Never send a human to do a machine's job..."

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