On 2011-10-31 21:43, Mark Wickens wrote:
Just in case anyone is interested, I've just listed a load of PDP-11
handbooks on eBay. They're all on starting at 4.99. You can find them here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/murkles/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksi…
There's also a Cambridge Z88, SPARCbook 3 and Epson HX-20.
Regards, Mark.
Please don't use the HECnet list for announcing auctions or other commercial activities. That is not appropriate content for the mailing list.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
0000011E NAMED_SERVER LEF 5 6510 0 00:00:00.84 2792 1700
What intrigues me is the NAMED process? Is this the DNS interface for other apps on CHIMPY, or is it an actual DNS server?
If the latter, how do I turn it off? MULTINET CONFIG/SERVER doesn't have an entry for it?
I believe that it is a caching DNS server used for client DNS queries.
I think that you can find it in MULTINET CONFIG/SERVER under "DOMAINNAME".
--Marc
You've specified smtp% as a prefix for the internet email address. Mail llooks for sys$share:smtp_mailshr.exe and doesn't find it there.
- do a dir sys$share:*mailshr.exe and see what files are there. Perhaps you'll find another one (e.g. IP_mailshr.exe)
- if the file is there, then it might not be installed (mc install and use help to run a list of all installed programs)
- the only logical name involved is. sys$share and if that wouldn't exist then mail problems would be low on your problems list ....
-----Original Message-----
From: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:01:50
To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: [HECnet] MULTINET and SMTP mail
I've tried to configure SMTP on MULTINET and am stuck.
Here's the error:
--- SNIP ---
MAIL> send
To: smtp%"sampsa at mac.com"
%MAIL-E-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport SMTP
%LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image CHIMPY$DQA1:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
--- SNIP ---
Here's the settings:
--- SNIP ---
{CHIMPY$} multinet config/mail
Process Software Mail Configuration Utility V5.3(28)
[Reading in configuration from MULTINET_ROOT:[MULTINET]START_SMTP_LOCAL.COM]
[Reading in configuration from MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET]START_SMTP.COM]
MAIL-CONFIG>show
SMTP host name: none (will use IP host name)
Host name alias file: none
Postmaster userid: SAMPSA
Forwarder: 192.168.77.202
Send all REMOTE mail to forwarder: TRUE
Send all LOCAL mail to forwarder: FALSE
DECnet mail domain: none
Failed local mail will be returned to sender.
Retry Interval: 30 minutes
Return Interval: 96 hours
VMS Mail REPLY control: REPLY-TO
VMS Mail header control: MAJOR
Use RFC822 To: header as VMS Mail To: TRUE
Lowercase username on outgoing VMS Mail: TRUE
Disallow user Reply-To's: FALSE
Delivery Receipts enabled: FALSE
PSImail delivery disabled: FALSE
Include Resent Headers on VMS MAIL forwards: TRUE
Alias file name: MULTINET:SMTP_ALIASES.
SEND broadcast class: 16
Start queue manager: TRUE
Number of SMTP server queues:
Node name Count
--------- -----
(default) 1
No queue groupings.
Start RFC 2789 MIB agent: FALSE
--- SNIP ---
MAIL> send
To: smtp%"sampsa at mac.com"
%MAIL-E-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport SMTP
%LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image CHIMPY$DQA1:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
MultiNet's SMTP components haven't been started. You're missing the MAIL$PROTOCOL_SMTP logical that would point to their "MAILSHR" image. Perhaps running @MULTINET:START_SMTP might be sufficient, but I don't know where that logical gets set. It's possible that running the START_MULTINET.COM procedure might be necessary.
--Marc
I've tried to configure SMTP on MULTINET and am stuck.
Here's the error:
--- SNIP ---
MAIL> send
To: smtp%"sampsa at mac.com"
%MAIL-E-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport SMTP
%LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image CHIMPY$DQA1:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
--- SNIP ---
Here's the settings:
--- SNIP ---
{CHIMPY$} multinet config/mail
Process Software Mail Configuration Utility V5.3(28)
[Reading in configuration from MULTINET_ROOT:[MULTINET]START_SMTP_LOCAL.COM]
[Reading in configuration from MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET]START_SMTP.COM]
MAIL-CONFIG>show
SMTP host name: none (will use IP host name)
Host name alias file: none
Postmaster userid: SAMPSA
Forwarder: 192.168.77.202
Send all REMOTE mail to forwarder: TRUE
Send all LOCAL mail to forwarder: FALSE
DECnet mail domain: none
Failed local mail will be returned to sender.
Retry Interval: 30 minutes
Return Interval: 96 hours
VMS Mail REPLY control: REPLY-TO
VMS Mail header control: MAJOR
Use RFC822 To: header as VMS Mail To: TRUE
Lowercase username on outgoing VMS Mail: TRUE
Disallow user Reply-To's: FALSE
Delivery Receipts enabled: FALSE
PSImail delivery disabled: FALSE
Include Resent Headers on VMS MAIL forwards: TRUE
Alias file name: MULTINET:SMTP_ALIASES.
SEND broadcast class: 16
Start queue manager: TRUE
Number of SMTP server queues:
Node name Count
--------- -----
(default) 1
No queue groupings.
Start RFC 2789 MIB agent: FALSE
--- SNIP ---
Heck! I'm in.
A community is all about the members, I hope I can contribute :)
/P
On 10/30/2011 02:00 PM, Mark Benson wrote:
Hi,
A while back myself and a couple of other HECnet list members discussed here a need for an alternative discussion forum for some of the less DECnet-related topics we (and especially I) had raised recently. There was some talk about a Notes-based list but talk about that seemed to fade, so I considered starting another e-mail list, and having attended DEC Legacy I was sure there would be some uptake. So I have started out on something I hope will become big.
I am announcing the launch of the first small step in what will be a bigger project. As of today http://DECtec.info is officially live.
My first step is to get a simple (and it is simple) website up and running and start a mailing list to provide that alternative forum for discussion. The list is active and you can subscribe right away. Details and guidelines (pretty-much the usual caveats) are at: http://DECtec.info/mailing-list.html
Now I am aware there are newsgroups and mailing lists out there already that are well established, such as comp.os.vms, comp.sys.dec, various alt.sys.* lists, CCTalk and others, but I have two issues. Stuff on 'Usenet' is not as easy to get at as it used to be. Sure there's Google Groups for a lot of it but it's frankly horrible. Secondly, because a lot of it concentrates on specific systems it gets a bit spread out. CCTalk/CCTech also is a great, great list but for someone like me who is only after DEC related info it's got a massive signal to noise ratio problem.
I am aware some people just join all of them and I'm pretty sure those people are probably crying into there cornflakes right now muttering 'not *another* list/site/so-called-community', but I want DECtec.info to be different in a few ways:
- More relaxed atmosphere. DEC Legacy was a blast, just a bunch of vary various, enthusiastic and knowledgable people in one place. I learnt so much there I wanted to keep it going somewhere where we could constantly tap on each others knowledge about the many and various aspects of DEC systems, OS, software and crazy stories. Yes the list will be moderated as any list has to be but I'm not a draconian dictator, banter (as long as it's friendly) and some slight wandering us fine, sometimes it even makes for a better atmosphere.
- Build a place to store knowledge. A mailing list is a great start and the archives over time will fill with plenty of knowledge, I am sure. But I don't want to stop there. I want to build a central knowledge base. I'm new to DEC and to it's ins and outs. I found it incredibly hard to get a foothold in the community. That bugs me - the number of people like me who are enthusiastic and interested have, for example, told me it's really hard to get a VMS license. It's not, it's really not, what's hard is finding someone who can tell you WHERE to get one, and keep that information up to date. Some of the knowledge is out there on the net but half of it is in people's heads and the other half is out of date. Furthermore, because a lot of certainly VMS-related stuff is still applicable to commercial interests there are walls and hurdles for Hobbyists that slow down or obfuscate the transfer of knowledge that isn't commercially sensitive but for some reason doesn't seem to be 'out there' either.
I had a simple idea. Build a Wiki. Every time you learn something new, or teach someone something they didn't know, copy and paste it to the Wiki. Even if you don't format it or type it out in pretty Wiki code it doesn't matter, the information is there. I can (or I can get volunteers to if it gets too much) do the fancy stuff to make it look pretty.
- Empower events. DEC Legacy was a great event. We should do it again, Mark says we probably will, and I want to support that. What I think was slightly lacking was an idea forum for the event. Sure it was pretty informal but it doesn't stop us talking ahead of the event and maybe planning out some stuff or even just establishing who's bringing what machines, and who needs help with what.
So I hope some people here feel inspired. I know it's a big idea and I'm a small workforce, but we all have to start somewhere and I start here.
Hi,
A while back myself and a couple of other HECnet list members discussed here a need for an alternative discussion forum for some of the less DECnet-related topics we (and especially I) had raised recently. There was some talk about a Notes-based list but talk about that seemed to fade, so I considered starting another e-mail list, and having attended DEC Legacy I was sure there would be some uptake. So I have started out on something I hope will become big.
I am announcing the launch of the first small step in what will be a bigger project. As of today http://DECtec.info is officially live.
My first step is to get a simple (and it is simple) website up and running and start a mailing list to provide that alternative forum for discussion. The list is active and you can subscribe right away. Details and guidelines (pretty-much the usual caveats) are at: http://DECtec.info/mailing-list.html
Now I am aware there are newsgroups and mailing lists out there already that are well established, such as comp.os.vms, comp.sys.dec, various alt.sys.* lists, CCTalk and others, but I have two issues. Stuff on 'Usenet' is not as easy to get at as it used to be. Sure there's Google Groups for a lot of it but it's frankly horrible. Secondly, because a lot of it concentrates on specific systems it gets a bit spread out. CCTalk/CCTech also is a great, great list but for someone like me who is only after DEC related info it's got a massive signal to noise ratio problem.
I am aware some people just join all of them and I'm pretty sure those people are probably crying into there cornflakes right now muttering 'not *another* list/site/so-called-community', but I want DECtec.info to be different in a few ways:
- More relaxed atmosphere. DEC Legacy was a blast, just a bunch of vary various, enthusiastic and knowledgable people in one place. I learnt so much there I wanted to keep it going somewhere where we could constantly tap on each others knowledge about the many and various aspects of DEC systems, OS, software and crazy stories. Yes the list will be moderated as any list has to be but I'm not a draconian dictator, banter (as long as it's friendly) and some slight wandering us fine, sometimes it even makes for a better atmosphere.
- Build a place to store knowledge. A mailing list is a great start and the archives over time will fill with plenty of knowledge, I am sure. But I don't want to stop there. I want to build a central knowledge base. I'm new to DEC and to it's ins and outs. I found it incredibly hard to get a foothold in the community. That bugs me - the number of people like me who are enthusiastic and interested have, for example, told me it's really hard to get a VMS license. It's not, it's really not, what's hard is finding someone who can tell you WHERE to get one, and keep that information up to date. Some of the knowledge is out there on the net but half of it is in people's heads and the other half is out of date. Furthermore, because a lot of certainly VMS-related stuff is still applicable to commercial interests there are walls and hurdles for Hobbyists that slow down or obfuscate the transfer of knowledge that isn't commercially sensitive but for some reason doesn't seem to be 'out there' either.
I had a simple idea. Build a Wiki. Every time you learn something new, or teach someone something they didn't know, copy and paste it to the Wiki. Even if you don't format it or type it out in pretty Wiki code it doesn't matter, the information is there. I can (or I can get volunteers to if it gets too much) do the fancy stuff to make it look pretty.
- Empower events. DEC Legacy was a great event. We should do it again, Mark says we probably will, and I want to support that. What I think was slightly lacking was an idea forum for the event. Sure it was pretty informal but it doesn't stop us talking ahead of the event and maybe planning out some stuff or even just establishing who's bringing what machines, and who needs help with what.
So I hope some people here feel inspired. I know it's a big idea and I'm a small workforce, but we all have to start somewhere and I start here.
--
Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
