Joe,
In this case it literally is reading from a file descriptor and writing to a socket and vice versa - it's very straight forward.
Mind you, personally I would just configure a couple of ports on my terminal server to do it for me - I guess you dont have one of those lying around...:)
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:48, Joe Ferraro wrote:
haha.. I'll take you up on the chat thing...
I love it when you systems guys say it's not brain surgery... I'd tend to agree; however, I'm just a dumb electrical engineer turned sys-admin -- any coding experience I *did* have was spent at the microcontroller level where things are simple...
sorry to bother... have a good evening
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Hmm...
For 1., I would just hook up getty or something on the linux box and have it automatically connect to the TCP serial port on the VAX.
For 2, not sure, but it's not brain surgery writing something that reads from a /dev/tty* and writes to a TCP socket.
Could probably use the same little bit of code to accomplish both...
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:28, Joe Ferraro wrote:
1.) hooking a vt up to the host linux box to access the VAX
2.) seeing if I could pass inbound serial data from a [serial] scanner to software on the emulated vax
I know.. sounds silly...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Not much no, AFAIK the serial ports on SIMH VAX just expose themselves to the outside world as a TCP socket (listening inbound only, again as far as I can tell)...
What are you planning on doing?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:10, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Already done, my friend... it should be in the latest push...
Ever done much serial (e.g. RS-232 and the like) programming? If so, do you know of any good references? I'd like to see if I can interface with the serial ports on a simh vax...
Cheers...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK,
Cool, you need to let Johnny know so he can update the master node name database as well.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
haha.. I'll take you up on the chat thing...
I love it when you systems guys say it's not brain surgery... I'd tend to agree; however, I'm just a dumb electrical engineer turned sys-admin -- any coding experience I *did* have was spent at the microcontroller level where things are simple...
sorry to bother... have a good evening
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Hmm...
For 1., I would just hook up getty or something on the linux box and have it automatically connect to the TCP serial port on the VAX.
For 2, not sure, but it's not brain surgery writing something that reads from a /dev/tty* and writes to a TCP socket.
Could probably use the same little bit of code to accomplish both...
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:28, Joe Ferraro wrote:
1.) hooking a vt up to the host linux box to access the VAX
2.) seeing if I could pass inbound serial data from a [serial] scanner to software on the emulated vax
I know.. sounds silly...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Not much no, AFAIK the serial ports on SIMH VAX just expose themselves to the outside world as a TCP socket (listening inbound only, again as far as I can tell)...
What are you planning on doing?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:10, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Already done, my friend... it should be in the latest push...
Ever done much serial (e.g. RS-232 and the like) programming? If so, do you know of any good references? I'd like to see if I can interface with the serial ports on a simh vax...
Cheers...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK,
Cool, you need to let Johnny know so he can update the master node name database as well.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
Hmm...
For 1., I would just hook up getty or something on the linux box and have it automatically connect to the TCP serial port on the VAX.
For 2, not sure, but it's not brain surgery writing something that reads from a /dev/tty* and writes to a TCP socket.
Could probably use the same little bit of code to accomplish both...
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:28, Joe Ferraro wrote:
1.) hooking a vt up to the host linux box to access the VAX
2.) seeing if I could pass inbound serial data from a [serial] scanner to software on the emulated vax
I know.. sounds silly...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Not much no, AFAIK the serial ports on SIMH VAX just expose themselves to the outside world as a TCP socket (listening inbound only, again as far as I can tell)...
What are you planning on doing?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:10, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Already done, my friend... it should be in the latest push...
Ever done much serial (e.g. RS-232 and the like) programming? If so, do you know of any good references? I'd like to see if I can interface with the serial ports on a simh vax...
Cheers...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK,
Cool, you need to let Johnny know so he can update the master node name database as well.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
1.) hooking a vt up to the host linux box to access the VAX
2.) seeing if I could pass inbound serial data from a [serial] scanner to software on the emulated vax
I know.. sounds silly...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Not much no, AFAIK the serial ports on SIMH VAX just expose themselves to the outside world as a TCP socket (listening inbound only, again as far as I can tell)...
What are you planning on doing?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:10, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Already done, my friend... it should be in the latest push...
Ever done much serial (e.g. RS-232 and the like) programming? If so, do you know of any good references? I'd like to see if I can interface with the serial ports on a simh vax...
Cheers...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK,
Cool, you need to let Johnny know so he can update the master node name database as well.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
Oh, BTW, your account on UUHEC.NET's App site is ready:
User account information for Joe Ferraro:
Your username is jpf and your temporary password is 767Q38
Your new email address is jpf at uuhec.net
Sign in to Uuhec.net services:
http://www.google.com/a/uuhec.net
You can use that for Google Talk/Jabber, probably a bit more sane than firing emails back and forth :)
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:10, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Already done, my friend... it should be in the latest push...
Ever done much serial (e.g. RS-232 and the like) programming? If so, do you know of any good references? I'd like to see if I can interface with the serial ports on a simh vax...
Cheers...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK,
Cool, you need to let Johnny know so he can update the master node name database as well.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
Not much no, AFAIK the serial ports on SIMH VAX just expose themselves to the outside world as a TCP socket (listening inbound only, again as far as I can tell)...
What are you planning on doing?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:10, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Already done, my friend... it should be in the latest push...
Ever done much serial (e.g. RS-232 and the like) programming? If so, do you know of any good references? I'd like to see if I can interface with the serial ports on a simh vax...
Cheers...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK,
Cool, you need to let Johnny know so he can update the master node name database as well.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
Already done, my friend... it should be in the latest push...
Ever done much serial (e.g. RS-232 and the like) programming? If so, do you know of any good references? I'd like to see if I can interface with the serial ports on a simh vax...
Cheers...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
OK,
Cool, you need to let Johnny know so he can update the master node name database as well.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
OK,
Cool, you need to let Johnny know so he can update the master node name database as well.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
Sampsa,
I'm sure you've already realized via update, but I was just thinking that I forgot to mention it to you -- I've taken area 20 so as to be able to give you back your node addresses. I think I had the 8.50n series...
Also, I have taylor up on solaris 10.. just need to configure it...
Joe
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sampsa Laine <msampsa at mac.co> wrote:
Guys/Johnny,
I'm registering two new nodes in my area, BONZO and LEMUR.
BONZO is at 8.800
LEMUR is at 8.430
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:08, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
They have a Linux version called CHARON-AXP/ES40 for Linux NCE. You can find it at http://www.stromasys.ch/axpnce/ .
I've set it up here and it does work. The only downside is that the non-commercial (free) version shuts off after 30 days requiring a restart. Plus, it's time-bombed to stop working after December 31, 2010 (although a newer version should subsequently be available if past history continues).
--Marc
On 16.7.2010 19:57, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys, just saw this on openvmshobbyist.com:
FreeAXP http://www.migrationspecialties.com/FreeAXP.html#Components
It emulates a AlphaServer 400 with up to 7 drives and 128 MB of RAM.
Runs on Windows though :(
I'm currently rolling out a test system to see how well it behaves on
Win2K3 Server.
Sampsa
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
Zane
.
I have. Even with 64MB. ;-)
It was a DEC3000-300X back in 1993 with AXPVMS V1.5 and also with OSF/1 V2.x and 3.0.
I have also tested a Multia with 64MB and VMS V7.3. It worked, but was really slow. I wasn't expecting much more than bootability. The Multia is slow (EV4/166MHz or EV4/233MHz) and 64MB is the absolute minimum for AXPVMS.
Kari
