29 Apr
2016
29 Apr
'16
6:29 p.m.
From: <Paul_Koning at Dell.com>
Neat. The same approach works in Python:
"Hello world"
Z8 BASIC too, if I remember right. Well OK you need a line number.
John Wilson
D Bit
29 Apr
29 Apr
6:59 p.m.
I actually find this funnier with some actual APL code next to it, so I wrote this:
http://www.sampsa.com/apl-fail/
On 29 Apr 2016, at 19:29, John Wilson <wilson at
dbit.com> wrote:
From: <Paul_Koning at Dell.com>
Neat. The same approach works in Python:
"Hello world"
Z8 BASIC too, if I remember right. Well OK you need a line number.
John Wilson
D Bit
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7 p.m.
To be honest, APL looks like MUMPS using a bad dialup connection to me..
How the HELL could anyone understand that?
Sampsa
7:04 p.m.
On Apr 29, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa
at mac.com> wrote:
To be honest, APL looks like MUMPS using a bad dialup connection to me..
How the HELL could anyone understand that?
It just takes practice. It's certainly not as bad as TECO. :-)
Then again, I remember hearing Ron Rivest talk about a chip design program he wrote in APL
-- 1000 lines. That's scary.
I learned APL fairly recently, as a tool to do cryptanalysis. I suppose there's some
irony in that.
paul
7:32 p.m.
On 29 Apr 2016, at 20:04, Paul_Koning at Dell.com
wrote:
After The Event, once they invent transistors again, they?ll find a printout of your APL
cryptanalysis program.
They will then develop an even stranger language using Mayan hieroglyphs to decode your
code.
Sampsa
On Apr 29, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Sampsa Laine
<sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
To be honest, APL looks like MUMPS using a bad dialup connection to me..
How the HELL could anyone understand that?
It just takes practice. It's certainly not as bad as TECO. :-)
Then again, I remember hearing Ron Rivest talk about a chip design program he wrote in
APL -- 1000 lines. That's scary.
I learned APL fairly recently, as a tool to do cryptanalysis. I suppose there's some
irony in that.
7:48 p.m.
My guess is that Mayan has an in?sufficient number of hieroglyphs available for that task
:-)
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On 29 Apr 2016, at 20:04, Paul_Koning at Dell.com
wrote:
After The Event, once they invent transistors again, they?ll find a printout of your APL
cryptanalysis program.
They will then develop an even stranger language using Mayan hieroglyphs to decode your
code.
Sampsa
On Apr 29, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Sampsa Laine
<sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
To be honest, APL looks like MUMPS using a bad dialup connection to me..?
How the HELL could anyone understand that?
It just takes practice. It's certainly not as bad as TECO. :-)
Then again, I remember hearing Ron Rivest talk about a chip design program he wrote in
APL -- 1000 lines. That's scary.
I learned APL fairly recently, as a tool to do cryptanalysis. I suppose there's some
irony in that.
3:51 a.m.
A Canticle for Leibowitz?
-brian
On Apr 29, 2016, at 14:32, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at
mac.com> wrote:
On 29 Apr 2016, at 20:04, Paul_Koning at Dell.com
wrote:
After The Event, once they invent transistors again, they?ll find a printout of your APL
cryptanalysis program.
They will then develop an even stranger language using Mayan hieroglyphs to decode your
code.
Sampsa
On Apr 29, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Sampsa Laine
<sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
To be honest, APL looks like MUMPS using a bad dialup connection to me..
How the HELL could anyone understand that?
It just takes practice. It's certainly not as bad as TECO. :-)
Then again, I remember hearing Ron Rivest talk about a chip design program he wrote in
APL -- 1000 lines. That's scary.
I learned APL fairly recently, as a tool to do cryptanalysis. I suppose there's some
irony in that. 
8:38 a.m.
I have an interest in APL too which I struggle to fully understand. I'm not
great at maths. I think it is because the language is *so* different that
subconsciously believe it must have something to teach me.
I'm currently planning a project to take a relegendable keyboard and create
a Dyalog APL 'appliance' using a Raspberry Pi Zero. Will be a neat little
project if I can pull it off. Hopefully it'll get further than my luggable
VAX.
Man I hate typing on glass keyboards - and it looked so cool in Tron Legacy!
Regards Mark
On Saturday, 30 April 2016, <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
A Canticle for Leibowitz?
-brian
On Apr 29, 2016, at 14:32, Sampsa Laine
<sampsa at mac.com <javascript:;>>
wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2016, at 20:04, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote:
>
>
>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
<javascript:;>> wrote:
>>
>> To be honest, APL looks like MUMPS using a bad dialup connection to
me..
>>
>> How the HELL could anyone understand that?
>
> It just takes practice. It's certainly not as bad as TECO. :-)
>
> Then again, I remember hearing Ron Rivest talk about a chip design
program he
wrote in APL -- 1000 lines. That's scary.
>
> I learned APL fairly recently, as a tool to do cryptanalysis. I
suppose
there's some irony in that.
After The Event, once they invent transistors again, they?ll find a
printout of
your APL cryptanalysis program.
They will then develop an even stranger language using Mayan hieroglyphs
to decode
your code.
Sampsa
9:16 a.m.
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29 Apr
29 Apr
7:45 p.m.
By using the apl/360 ?manual.
Why?
Because *SYSTEM/APL remained up and running on Wednesday afternoons when the Burroughs
B6700 went in maintenance mode...
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To be honest, APL looks like MUMPS using a bad dialup connection to me..
How the HELL could anyone understand that?
Sampsa
7:47 p.m.
On 29 Apr 2016, at 20:45, Hans Vlems <hvlems at
zonnet.nl> wrote:
By using the apl/360 ?manual.
Why?
Because *SYSTEM/APL remained up and running on Wednesday afternoons when the Burroughs
B6700 went in maintenance mode...
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] OFF-TOPIC (but it's Friday guys): APL FAIL
To be honest, APL looks like MUMPS using a bad dialup connection to me..
How the HELL could anyone understand that?
I supposed I learned Z Notation once, I might be able to learn this.
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