The most recent that I have from you for OST is 19, Ultrix-11.  I don't have anything past 9, OS-8 (!!).  So I'll be delighted to shovel those into my sources, THANKS!!

I did have a few questions (naturally)

First, what do you do after you get the foreign configuration message in NFT?  Send an access complete and close or just close?  I punt the connection, and was wondering whether that might be considered a rude thing to do.

Second, what does DTS/MVS mean?

Finally, Ultrix-32 as a file system reminds me of something that I had been thinking about, which is that a number of operating systems can actually concurrently run multiple file systems.

As an arcane example, one time I was walking past 2102 (Tops-20 Monitor Development) and almost fell out of my sneakers seeing that it had a Tops-10 disk pack mounted.  After checking that it wasn't a dual port set exclusive to one of the nearby (beautiful) KI's, I saw that Tops-20 was really using it.  Wow.  It's true, the hooks to use Tops-10 file systems remain in PA1050.  Tops-20 also treats DECtape as a different file system, but I can't imagine what it would be reported as.

Clearly Unix can run a bunch of different file systems, so I won't get into listing those.

Windows/NT, 2000, XP and I forget what else can run FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, HPFS and NTFS.

I had been wondering how DAP might accommodate this, or whether it needed to.

On 6/1/23 1:25 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:

That matches what I see from RSX. Tops-10 looks almost broken, if you as me. I suspect it just wasn't developed and tested much in the latter days, compared to TOPS-20.

I have a slightly more up to date list in RSX, but I extended it further based on observations myself.

I think I posted it before, but anyway:

;
; Operating system strings
;
IRT:    .ASCIZ  "RT-11    "             ;  1
IRSTS:  .ASCIZ  "RSTS/E   "             ;  2
I11S:   .ASCIZ  "RSX-11S  "             ;  3
I11M:   .ASCIZ  "RSX-11M  "             ;  4
I11D:   .ASCIZ  "RSX-11D  "             ;  5
IIAS:   .ASCIZ  "IAS      "             ;  6
IVMS:   .ASCIZ  "VAX/VMS  "             ;  7
IT20:   .ASCIZ  "TOPS-20  "             ;  8
IT10:   .ASCIZ  "TOPS-10  "             ;  9
;       RTS-8                           ; 10
;       OS-8                            ; 11
IMPL:   .ASCIZ  "RSX-11M+ "             ; 12
;       COPOS/11 (TOPS-20 frontend)     ; 13
IPOS:   .ASCIZ  "P/OS     "             ; 14
ISEA:   .ASCIZ  "VAXELAN  "             ; 15
ICPM:   .ASCIZ  "CP/M     "             ; 16
IMSD:   .ASCIZ  "MS-DOS   "             ; 17
IU32:   .ASCIZ  "Ultrix-32"             ; 18
IU11:   .ASCIZ  "Ultrix-11"             ; 19
IDTF:   .ASCIZ  "DTF/MVS  "             ; 20
IWNT:   .ASCIZ  "WindowsNT"             ; 25
ILNX:   .ASCIZ  "Linux    "             ; 26


;
; File system strings
;
IRMS11: .ASCIZ  "RMS-11   "             ;  1
IRMS20: .ASCIZ  "RMS-20   "             ;  2
IRMS32: .ASCIZ  "RMS-32   "             ;  3
IFCS11: .ASCIZ  "FCS-11   "             ;  4
IRT11:  .ASCIZ  "RT-11    "             ;  5
INOFS:  .ASCIZ  "No file system"        ;  6
;IT20:  .ASCIZ  "TOPS-20  "             ;  7
;IT10:  .ASCIZ  "TOPS-10  "             ;  8
;               OS-8                    ;  9
IRMSES: .ASCIZ  "RMS-32S  "             ; 10
;ICPM:  .ASCIZ  "CP/M     "             ; 11
;IMSD:  .ASCIZ  "MS-DOS   "             ; 12
;IU32:  .ASCIZ  "Ultrix-32"             ; 13
;IU11:  .ASCIZ  "Ultrix-11"             ; 14
;IDTF:  .ASCIZ  "DTF/MVS  "             ; 15
INTFS:  .ASCIZ  "NTFS     "             ; 19
ILNXFS: .ASCIZ  "Linux    "             ; 20

  Johnny


On 2023-06-01 18:51, Thomas DeBellis wrote:

I've been testing my changes to Tops-20 NFT and ran into what what I thought were some perhaps interesting results, viz:

    NFT>*i twonky*
    Attempting connection to TWONKY:: [31.37]
    Maximum buffer size: _0!_
    Operating System: Tops-10, File System: Tops-10
    DAP: 7.0, DECnet: _0.0_

    NFT>*i ostara*
    Attempting connection to OSTARA:: [31.15]
    Maximum buffer size: 4096
    Operating System: Ultrix-32, File System: _13 (Unknown)_
    DAP: 7.0, DECnet: 1.0


Note that I am clipping the capability display for these examples. By "interesting", I was surprised to find that Tops-10 is reporting a buffer size of zero, but more by it reporting a DECnet version of 0.0.

Where are these version numbers defined? For Ultrix, I would assume that I need a more up-to-date list of file systems, given that the highest that DAP 5.6 states is 9 for OS-8 (!!)