Hello,

I'm not a programmer, at least not a very good one, and I'm quite happy to expose my ignorance in the effort to learn something new, so I was wondering how real this dependency is on having Linux kernel support for DECnet.  We are quite able to put DECnet packets out on the wire using various user mode processes such as with our favourite emulator SimH.  I currently run VAX DECnet on several linux boxes without any special or unusual kernel shenanigans using a simple TAP ethernet driver.  I also use other non-IP based protocols such as LAT that do not require any special kernel mode modules, drivers or privileges.

Wouldn't it be awesome if we could install a "simple" DECnet daemon on Linux and tweak the few user mode commands that we still use to point to that instead of the special kernel drivers that are needed today.  This is probably just wishful thinking, but a very simple non-kernel DECnet implementation might help ensure its survival for a few more decades.

I could well be completely wrong, but I thought I would ask anyway.

I'm hoping to build a tiny terminal server for my vt520 on a Raspberry Pi Zero to replace a lost DECserver 90M.  I would love to have CTERM support in addition to LAT, TELNET (and SSH) without having to go through miserable linux kernel cross-compilation headaches...      ;)

Cheers,
Brian


On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 9:37 AM David Moylan <djm@wiz.net.au> wrote:
Should be no need.

kernel.org holds all copies of the Linux kernel source code since the first release. We only need to note this point in time so that any future DECnet on Linux work uses a kernel with the code still present. 

Cheers, Wiz!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Aug 2022, at 11:03 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll@stupi.com> wrote:

Maybe someone on this mailing list can archive a working version
with the user-mode clients  for the future?

-P

----- Original Message -----
From: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org>
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Subject: [HECnet] Fwd: DECnet to be dropped from Linux

Possibly already known, but just in case...
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