Part of the issue here is related to VMS/x86. 

The current community prebuilt images only ship with Phase V and from what I understand the libraries are missing for Phase IV so you can’t run it native. 

The earlier install builds from years ago apparently had Phase IV support - or at least I am lead to believe this. 

Cheers, Wiz!!

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On 18 Jul 2025, at 7:19 am, Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> wrote:

Fair enough, but as Bob points out - Almost everything on HECnet is Phase IV, so you won't really get any of the benefits of any "enhancements" that happened in Phase V, when we talk about HECnet in as a concept. All you can do is exercise then Phase IV compatibility of your local Phase V node, and suffer the pain of the bugs and incompatibilities of Phase V. And over time you'll realize that there are a few...

 Johnny

On 2025-07-17 22:17, Trevor Warwick wrote:
Well, we all have different motivations for doing retro computing.
For me, running Phase V is actually the whole point. I worked on it at DEC, so it's fun to connect today using some code I wrote 30+ years ago.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025, 20:56 Robert Armstrong, <bob@jfcl.com <mailto:bob@jfcl.com>> wrote:
    >Trevor Warwick <twarwick@gmail.com <mailto:twarwick@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >
    >To reiterate, you can connect to HECnet perfectly well when
   running DECnet+.
      You can, absolutely, but just to be clear HECnet as a wholeis
   only Phase IV.   When you connect a Phase V node to HECnet you only
   get Phase IV functionality to the rest of HECnet.
      Like most people I agree that Phase V is not worth the trouble.     I wonder how many Phase V nodes there actually are on HECnet?
   Bob
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