looks awesome from here too

$ mc ncp tell pirsts show active circuits


Active Circuit Volatile Summary as of 13-SEP-2022 14:36:31

   Circuit          State                   Loopback     Adjacent
                                              Name      Routing Node

  QNA-0             on                               29.206 (ONAPI4)
$
$ mc ncp tell pirsts show active lines


Active Line Volatile Summary as of 13-SEP-2022 14:36:39

   Line             State

  QNA-0             on
$
$ mc ncp tell pirsts show circuit qna-0 char


Circuit Volatile Characteristics as of 13-SEP-2022 14:36:54

Circuit = QNA-0

State                    = on
Cost                     = 1
Hello timer              = 45
Parameter #811           = 5
Listen timer             = 90
Owner                    = Node 29901PIRSTS
Line                     = QNA-0
Type                     = Ethernet
Router priority          = 64
Parameter #2110          = %X'00'


$ mc ncp tell pirsts show line qna-0 char


Line Volatile Characteristics as of 13-SEP-2022 14:37:13

Line = QNA-0

State                    = on
Receive buffers          = 10
Protocol                 = Ethernet
Hardware address         = 08-00-2B-02-10-87


$ mc ncp tell pirsts show exec char


Node Volatile Characteristics as of 13-SEP-2022 14:37:28

Executor node = 29.205 (PIRSTS)

State                    = on
Identification           = DECnet/E V4.1
Management version       = V4.3.0
Loop count               = 1
Loop length              = 128
Loop Data type           = mixed
Counter timer            = 0
Incoming timer           = 120
Outgoing timer           = 120
NSP version              = V4.0.0
Maximum links            = 32
Delay factor             = 48
Delay weight             = 3
Inactivity timer         = 120
Retransmit factor        = 5
Routing version          = V2.0.0
Type                     = nonrouting IV
Routing timer            = 120
Broadcast routing timer  = 40
Maximum address          = 1023
Maximum circuits         = 1
Maximum cost             = 1022
Maximum hops             = 30
Maximum visits           = 32
Maximum area             = 63
Max broadcast nonrouters = 64
Max broadcast routers    = 16
Maximum buffers          = 15
Buffer size              = 576
Segment buffer size      = 576
Parameter #2125          = [29,206]
Parameter #2126          = 4
Parameter #2127          = 2
Parameter #2129          = 4096
Parameter #2128          = SY0:[0,1]NSP0.SYS


$
$ mc ncp tell pirsts show active nodes


Active Node Volatile Summary as of 13-SEP-2022 14:37:44

Executor node = 29.205 (PIRSTS)

State                    = on
Identification           = DECnet/E V4.1
Active links             = 1


    Node           State      Active  Delay   Circuit     Next node
                              Links

29.206 (ONAPI4)                               QNA-0        29.206 (ONAPI4)
31.10 (QCOCAL)                   1       7    QNA-0        29.206 (ONAPI4)


On 9/13/22 10:32 AM, Wilm Boerhout wrote:
OK, NCP.TSK was <104> now <232>.

NCP TELL from VAX no longer needs authentication.

In a few days, I can tell whether this has fixed my original problem.

Wilm

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 4:02 PM
To: hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se
Subject: [HECnet] Re: RSTS DECnet config question

Well. I suspect any scraping would get the same effect I saw. On most any other machine that don't allow anonymous access, you'd see something
like:

.ncp tell jocke sho exec
NCP -- Show failed, Listener connect failed, access control rejected


But it might be that RSTS/E gives a result like that when no access. 
Just not what I would have expected.

   Johnny

On 2022-09-13 14:12, Wilm Boerhout wrote:
Funny as in "mostly vanilla"?

Attached is the command output with credentials.

But having priv access only here should not cause that behavior?


Wilm

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:55 PM
To: hecnet@lists.dfupdate.se
Subject: [HECnet] Re: RSTS DECnet config question

PIRSTS is "funny".

.ncp tell pirsts sho exec cha
NCP -- Show failed, operation failure
         ?Protection violation
    Error finding executor state
.

Maybe related?

    Johnny

On 2022-09-13 12:58, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I don't think you can blame any crawler for this. This would appear 
to be something wrong in RSTS/E then. Paul can maybe figure out what 
the problem is and how to resolve it.

    Johnny

On 2022-09-13 12:02, Wilm Boerhout wrote:
That is what happens. I have 32 job slots, and usually it takes less 
than two weeks to fill up. Unless I happen to log in in between and 
kill the jobs.

Groet,
Wilm

(Verstuurd vanaf mijn telefoon, dus wat korter dan gewoonlijk.) 
(Sent from my phone, so a bit more compact than usual)

Op 13 sep. 2022 om 12:00 heeft Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> 
het volgende geschreven:

Are you saying that even though the DECnet connections are 
finished, there are processes that stay around forever? That seems wrong.

   Johnny

On 2022-09-13 10:06, Wilm Boerhout wrote:
Hail all you RSTS buffs!
One of my nodes (PIRSTS) is running RSTS V10.1L and DECnet V4.1 
Ever since I am on HECnet, I have observed that job slots are 
filled over time with jobs under the DECnet account [29,206] in HB 
state, up to the point that the job max is reached, and I cannot 
log in anymore.
My working hypothesis is that the polling processes (for HECnet 
mapping and other inquiring minds – you know who you are) keep 
creating new jobs, instead of reusing old ones.
Is there a way to tell DECnet/E that it should not keep jobs in HB 
state, but log them out after use? Or reuse existing jobs on 
incoming connection requests? On DECnet/VMS there are timer and 
other logicals that steer this behavior.
Running a daily kill job seems, well, overkill.
Thanks,
*Wilm*
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